Undecided Voters, The Choices are Clear

[RealityNow]

Anyone who is Undecided at this point is too ignorant to have paid attention.

 

[poweRob]

It's clear you have no idea what socialism is. You keep demonstrating your LACK of knowledge of it with each of your posts.

Biden 2020..... Dump Trump. Trump supporters can **** off and burn in hell.

But she puts it in BOLD!

 

[noonereal]

Undecided Voters, The Choices are Clear

Indeed, this is a choice between good and evil.

This is not just another election.

 

[poweRob]

The choice is clear.

Jo Jorgensen for an intelligent, capable, adult President.

Free Nordic fireplace stoves for everyone!

 

[poweRob]

Where do you think Kamala Harris will move since she will be a heartbeat from the Presidency?

Into your head apparently.

 

[CimpleMan]

Where do you think Kamala Harris will move since she will be a heartbeat from the Presidency?

Personally, think Biden will make it through 4 years. If Kamala does takes over and advocates more progressive policies then Conservatives will push pack and will campaign aggressively against them. The GOP would benefit if Democrats go too far left.

Worse case for the GOP is Biden wins and moves to the center.

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[Conservative]

But she puts it in BOLD!

Seems to me the choice is clear people fleeing California, NY, Illinois from liberal utopia and putting Harris a heartbeat from the Presidency doesn't resonate with most Americans

Undecided voters have a TV and as much as you want to claim that radical liberalism is popular people get it as they see rioting and looting in liberal cities that have been run by liberals for decades. Have watched a lot of rioting video and listening to people claim those riots were justified shopping sprees but have yet to see a looter looting a grocery store, isn't that what they truly need?

 

[Conservative]

Personally, think Biden will make it through 4 years. If Kamala does takes over and advocates more progressive policies then Conservatives will push pack and will campaign aggressively against them. The GOP would benefit if Democrats go too far left.

Worse case for the GOP is Biden wins and moves to the center.

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Biden beholden to the radical left and Harris part of the radical left isn't going to ever govern from the middle. Can you explain to us all why liberalism doesn't really resonate with you? It is a fraud that appeals to the heart, why is it people are fleeing liberal states and such utopia? Why is it people like you buy rhetoric and ignore that if you vote for the same ideology over and over again you aren't going to get different results? I gave you a list of cities, can you tell me the last time they were governed by a Republican or had a Republican city council?

Are the wealthy fleeing California taxes? – Orange County Register

As the wealthy flee New York, poorest will be most affected | TheHill

New IRS Migration Numbers Confirm Flight of Illinois' Wealthy

 

[tosca1]

Seems to me the choice is clear people fleeing California, NY, Illinois from liberal utopia and putting Harris a heartbeat from the Presidency doesn't resonate with most Americans

Undecided voters have a TV and as much as you want to claim that radical liberalism is popular people get it as they see rioting and looting in liberal cities that have been run by liberals for decades. Have watched a lot of rioting video and listening to people claim those riots were justified shopping sprees but have yet to see a looter looting a grocery store, isn't that what they truly need?

Law and order will resonate with people. Thanks to all the Dems enablers of riots and lootings.

 

[CimpleMan]

Biden beholden to the radical left and Harris part of the radical left isn't going to ever govern from the middle. Can you explain to us all why liberalism doesn't really resonate with you? It is a fraud that appeals to the heart, why is it people are fleeing liberal states and such utopia? Why is it people like you buy rhetoric and ignore that if you vote for the same ideology over and over again you aren't going to get different results? I gave you a list of cities, can you tell me the last time they were governed by a Republican or had a Republican city council?

Are the wealthy fleeing California taxes? – Orange County Register

As the wealthy flee New York, poorest will be most affected | TheHill

New IRS Migration Numbers Confirm Flight of Illinois' Wealthy

Dude, chill out. You'll survive a Biden/Harris presidency. You'll have to pay more in taxes but life will continue as is. Stop using inflamed rhetoric.

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[Drawdown]

Any undecided voters at this point probably should not be voting, either you want four more years of an inept con man or you don't.

Just because they haven't jumped on either sinking ship does not mean they should not vote. Personally I see anybody who has already decided for 1 of these 2 for certain ill-informed and inept. A lot could change between now and election day. #VoteHowie

 

[Conservative]

Dude, chill out. You'll survive a Biden/Harris presidency. You'll have to pay more in taxes but life will continue as is. Stop using inflamed rhetoric.

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Yes I will as I have with every other President so why don't you explain the passionate hatred for Trump and why liberals cannot debate issues?

 

[Aunt Antifa]

Expect to be inundated by fake news and dirty politics leading to the election. A serious contemplation is needed here. So much is at stake.




There are only two choices here come November:


Either you'd vote for Trump, which means the economy will be roaring back to the way it was before the unexpected
Pandemic had hit the fan........


.......or.................. you'd gamble on a SOCIALIST government by voting for Biden.




If you're in it only because of Biden - well, the reality is, Biden won't be in it for long.



Yeah, we can try to fool and convince ourselves that a socialist government will never fly in the USA. Don't kid yourself.
Socialism is gaining all over the world. Most democracies have a foot already in it - all it takes is just bringing the other foot in!




No matter how rosy these socialists want to paint it - their vision is NOT SUSTAINABLE. Look what happened to Venezuela.


How socialism turned Venezuela from the wealthiest country in South America into an
economic basket case

How socialism turned Venezuela from the wealthiest country in South America into an economic basket case | Fox News






How would you like your kids - and your grand children - to live in a socialist country?
Will that be your legacy?

“Are you better off now than you were 4 years ago?”

 

[CimpleMan]

Yes I will as I have with every other President so why don't you explain the passionate hatred for Trump and why liberals cannot debate issues?

Ask someone who passionately hates Trump and won't debate issues.

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[poweRob]

Ask someone who passionately hates Trump and won't debate issues.

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TOO LATE!

He's now assigned you to speak for all liberals. :lol:

 

[Conservative]

Ask someone who passionately hates Trump and won't debate issues.

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That that is what this forum would promote but the vast majority here who hate Trump won't debate issues, they focus on personality, personal opinions, and biased op ed pieces that don't resonate with Americans

 

[Conservative]

TOO LATE!

He's now assigned you to speak for all liberals. :lol:

This is what undecided voters see when watching TV and the liberal ideology runs these cities, who do you think good law abiding Americans are going to vote for?

5 minute compilation : 5-29-2020 RIOTS / PROTESTS - YouTube

 

[CimpleMan]

That that is what this forum would promote but the vast majority here who hate Trump won't debate issues, they focus on personality, personal opinions, and biased op ed pieces that don't resonate with Americans

There's silliness, hyperbole, hypocrisy, etc... on this forum. Personally, don't take it too seriously and don't expect alot regarding actual debate. It's mostly for entertainment purposes.

This forum would be pretty boring if we agreed on everything and didn't engage eachother on myriad of topics. Could do without some of the repetitive threads and arguments, but to each their own.

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[CimpleMan]

This is what undecided voters see when watching TV and the liberal ideology runs these cities, who do you think good law abiding Americans are going to vote for?

5 minute compilation : 5-29-2020 RIOTS / PROTESTS - YouTube

Didn't mean to like this post. 328 million people here, how many in total are rioting and causing damage? There's hatred and generally bad people among our population, don't see them as Republicans or Democrats just bad apples.

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[Conservative]

Didn't mean to like this post. 328 million people here, how many in total are rioting and causing damage? There's hatred and generally bad people among our population, don't see them as Republicans or Democrats just bad apples.

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Enough to cause millions and millions of dollars worth of damage, Interesting that the rioting still doesn't resonate with people who won't be voting for Trump and how racism being promoted by BLM doesn't really matter. The killing of white children by blacks during these riots doesn't seem to generate the hatred promoted by the left

 

[RealityNow]

QUOTE=Casper;1072592458]Any undecided voters at this point probably should not be voting, either you want four more years of an inept con man or you don't.[/QUOTE]

People who list themselves as Conservatives ... Promote and support an ignorance, vile and malice that is UN-America.... It is something morally and ethically lacking in these people. They can't see reality for lusting after the historical vile of Jim Crow ideals they grew up loving. They don't care about America.. they care about prolonging the vile and malice of Wealthy White Male Dominance... because they can't respect the principles of Human Equality.... Their underlying fears that their own self generated inferiorities will leave the to face truths they have long denied. Their lust to want a remake of the hoarding of money and looking down on people who are no white and well to do... is so deeply ingrained in them, until they will show their biased vile even against their own family members who fall on hard times. Because they fear being associated with poor whites and terrified of having to face the face they are not better than non white people, and they are not superior to any people.

When they have had this stupidly drilled in their heads for 100's of years by white nationalist promotions of history taught in schools that had an agenda to teach a white nationalist based system, not just in history, but in finance and literature and sociology. They are having to face a truth they can't stand up to,... because it fractures that bubble of confabulated folklore they built their live upon. If anyone notes, when you see the word Conservative, it basically implies people who are fearful of change, fearful of learning the truth, and fearful of equality, and people who are obsessed with the lust for money by any means.

They (Those who Call Themselves Conservatives and Other Names that Denote nothing more than Regiments of Confederacy Agenda), are the root cause of the Squandering of America's Wealth gained off the back of Immigrants from all corners of the world, Minorities of every ethnicity, and the system of slavery, followed by their own gluttonous material obsessions and greedy in every category of life... and their slothfulness that squander everything, and destroyed legacy business and industry and caused and created the $26 Trillion of Debt. The even more tragic thing, is they are under-educated and many un-educated to even know they aspire to such ignorance, those that do know, simply embrace a level of savagery, that it prevents them from knowing or learning how to live in Civil and Civic Society ... These types... do not know the Civics of American Democracy...

The entire world is realizing that the general white society of right winger are far from the level of intellect that the world once though they were. They are finding that was nothing but fake promotions by an Imperialist Agenda promoted by Propaganda of pushing White Nationalism, of wealthy white male dominance. Countries around the world have been growing wiser to it for decades, and we are in an Era where its fully exposed. Propaganda of white nationalism has no longer the power nor the money to delude the world of Nations. They look on America as if to be nothing more than a foolish arrogant child when it comes to the white nationalism agenda.

What people around the world still respects is the people who support the Liberal Principles that are at the core of THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE, the core Values and Principles of THE PREAMBLE... and the principles of THE CONSTITUTION, that established Government, Law Systems and was designed to be based on Equality of Person, as Individual.

The damage white people did to this over centuries is being exposed more and more ... and Young people will Make America Live Up To Those Values and Principles, in a true form and format of Equality of Person, as Individual....

This Election is to RECLAIM AMERICA... FOR THE PEOPLE.... AWAY FROM THE VILE OF WHAT THE SYSTEM OF WHITE NATIONALISM HAS DONE OF DAMAGES AND THE MALICE IT HAS CAUSED AND CREATED FOR CENTURIES.... and Bring America to Respect the Principles and Values of American Democracy for "All People, as Person, as Individual.

IT IS TIME FOR AMERICAN PEOPLE TO SEE ALL AMERICAN PEOPLE WITH A VIEW AND REGARD OF EQUALITY OF PERSON, AS INDIVIDUAL

That is the CHANGE, OBAMA WAS TALKING ABOUT... WHICH SO MANY PURPOSEFULLY DID NOT TRY TO UNDERSTAND.

 

[PNW Guy]

Thank you for your right-wing, fact-free, stream of consciousnesses view of the campaign. Let me inject some facts:

On the economy
The economy did not "roar back" under Trump. Trump enjoyed Obama's healed economy while he pretended that he performed miracles. He didn't. Trump's only economic policy was his 2017 tax-cuts, that fell almost completely on the rich and corporations. Those tax-cuts were supposed to boost wages and boost business investment. There was no increase in business investment but there was wage growth -- only because states raised the minimum wage. Here are two graphs that show Trump's economic performance -- all pre-pandemic numbers.

SEE VIDEO HERE

"Socialism"
The idea that Joe Biden, who spent the last 45 years of his political life as a moderate is really a stealth socialist, is laughable and preposterous.

Throwing in Venezuela is even more absurd. No proposals by anyone in authority in the Democratic Party want to nationalize the means of production, which is what socialism calls for. The idea that strengthening Obamacare or instituting universal child care is going to turn America into Venezuela is a lame attempt to grossly mischaracterize both Mr. Biden and the Democratic Party, from the Trump campaign, that has no real ideas on how to improve America. So, he has to try to knock down his challenger, instead of pointing to his accomplishments. Since the Trump campaign can't find anything substantive to criticize Biden, they need to invent false claims -- "He's a socialist!"

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Nice facts, and real world info; too bad it's just so many more pearls cast before swine, when it comes to the Trumpanzees™. :roll:

 

[CimpleMan]

Enough to cause millions and millions of dollars worth of damage, Interesting that the rioting still doesn't resonate with people who won't be voting for Trump and how racism being promoted by BLM doesn't really matter. The killing of white children by blacks during these riots doesn't seem to generate the hatred promoted by the left

Yeah, bad people doing bad things. It resonates and Trump may benefit. Plenty of white collar crime looting billions from us as well, if they support Trump are Republicans responsible?

Again, how many in total are participants in the damage and exactly how are law abiding Democrats responsible? And, how would you stop it? You want debate? Answer my questions, and will debate you. If you just want to spew hatred for Liberals then I have nothing else to say to you.

People are too easily influenced by what is said on TV and the radio. "And when you trust the television What you get is what you got Cause when they own the information, oh They can bend it all they want"

John Mayer Waiting on the World to Change.



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[Conservative]

Yeah, bad people doing bad things. It resonates and Trump may benefit. Plenty of white collar crime looting billions from us as well, if they support Trump are Republicans responsible?

Again, how many in total are participants in the damage and exactly how are law abiding Democrats responsible? And, how would you stop it? You want debate? Answer my questions, and will debate you. If you just want to spew hatred for Liberals then I have nothing else to say to you.

People are too easily influenced by what is said on TV and the radio. "And when you trust the television What you get is what you got Cause when they own the information, oh They can bend it all they want"

John Mayer Waiting on the World to Change.



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Which is why I normally post results vs, propaganda and opinions. A picture is worth a thousands words though and that is what the video does, that takes time is to post data that really impacts the American public, like 6.6 million jobs created from January 2017 to February 2020, 900 billion dollars a year in GDP growth, 10000 point stock market gains, record state and local revenue due to sales and property tax spending. All these beat the previous data generated the 8 years of Obama unless of course you take the January 2009 date as the beginning, not the pre recession dats with Democrats and Obama in control of the Congress

 

[CimpleMan]

Which is why I normally post results vs, propaganda and opinions. A picture is worth a thousands words though and that is what the video does, that takes time is to post data that really impacts the American public, like 6.6 million jobs created from January 2017 to February 2020, 900 billion dollars a year in GDP growth, 10000 point stock market gains, record state and local revenue due to sales and property tax spending. All these beat the previous data generated the 8 years of Obama unless of course you take the January 2009 date as the beginning, not the pre recession dats with Democrats and Obama in control of the Congress

Yeah, have read enough of your posts to understand your viewpoint and why you support Trump. It's all about the economy with you and that's fine.

Do really think Democrats are happy with the rioting and the damage? No need to answer, you probably do. If we can find a way to end the violence, damage, and looting without large amounts of death among law enforcement and innocent bystanders would love for this to happen.

Maybe if Democrats and Republicans would stop the grandstanding, solutions could be found. Do you support this statement?

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