Undecided Voters, The Choices are Clear (1 Viewer)

[tosca1]

Expect to be inundated by fake news and dirty politics leading to the election. A serious contemplation is needed here. So much is at stake.




There are only two choices here come November:


Either you'd vote for Trump, which means the economy will be roaring back to the way it was before the unexpected
Pandemic had hit the fan........


.......or.................. you'd gamble on a SOCIALIST government by voting for Biden.




If you're in it only because of Biden - well, the reality is, Biden won't be in it for long.



Yeah, we can try to fool and convince ourselves that a socialist government will never fly in the USA. Don't kid yourself.
Socialism is gaining all over the world. Most democracies have a foot already in it - all it takes is just bringing the other foot in!




No matter how rosy these socialists want to paint it - their vision is NOT SUSTAINABLE. Look what happened to Venezuela.


How socialism turned Venezuela from the wealthiest country in South America into an
economic basket case

How socialism turned Venezuela from the wealthiest country in South America into an economic basket case | Fox News






How would you like your kids - and your grand children - to live in a socialist country?
Will that be your legacy?

 

[Luther]

Expect to be inundated by fake news and dirty politics leading to the election. A serious contemplation is needed here. So much is at stake.




There are only two choices here come November:


Either you'd vote for Trump, which means the economy will be roaring back to the way it was before the unexpected
Pandemic had hit the fan........


.......or.................. you'd gamble on a SOCIALIST government by voting for Biden.




If you're in it only because of Biden - well, the reality is, Biden won't be in it for long.



Yeah, we can try to fool and convince ourselves that a socialist government will never fly in the USA. Don't kid yourself.
Socialism is gaining all over the world. Most democracies have a foot already in it - all it takes is just bringing the other foot in!




No matter how rosy these socialists want to paint it - their vision is NOT SUSTAINABLE. Look what happened to Venezuela.


How socialism turned Venezuela from the wealthiest country in South America into an
economic basket case

How socialism turned Venezuela from the wealthiest country in South America into an economic basket case | Fox News






How would you like your kids - and your grand children - to live in a socialist country?
Will that be your legacy?

Either you'd vote for Trump, which means the economy will be roaring back to the way it was before the unexpected
Pandemic had hit the fan........

You do know we're to have a recession sooner or later no matter who is prez right?

 

[Luther]

Expect to be inundated by fake news and dirty politics leading to the election. A serious contemplation is needed here. So much is at stake.




There are only two choices here come November:


Either you'd vote for Trump, which means the economy will be roaring back to the way it was before the unexpected
Pandemic had hit the fan........


.......or.................. you'd gamble on a SOCIALIST government by voting for Biden.




If you're in it only because of Biden - well, the reality is, Biden won't be in it for long.



Yeah, we can try to fool and convince ourselves that a socialist government will never fly in the USA. Don't kid yourself.
Socialism is gaining all over the world. Most democracies have a foot already in it - all it takes is just bringing the other foot in!




No matter how rosy these socialists want to paint it - their vision is NOT SUSTAINABLE. Look what happened to Venezuela.


How socialism turned Venezuela from the wealthiest country in South America into an
economic basket case

How socialism turned Venezuela from the wealthiest country in South America into an economic basket case | Fox News






How would you like your kids - and your grand children - to live in a socialist country?
Will that be your legacy?

How would you like your kids - and your grand children - to live in a socialist country?
Will that be your legacy?

You do know we're already a socialistic country right?

 

[tosca1]

You do know we're to have a recession sooner or later no matter who is prez right?

All the more you need a president who can bring you out of it! :shrug:


We already know what Trump can do when it comes to the economy.

 

[Luther]

All the more you need a president who can bring you out of it! :shrug:


We already know what Trump can do when it comes to the economy.

The economy was coming back on its own before Trump

 

[tosca1]

Of course.....if the socialists end up ruling the USA, you can all wave goodbye to a lot of businesses!
While you're in the middle of a recession!


You'll never recover!



It'll be the end of the USA as you all know it.

 

[ElChupacabra]

Of course.....if the socialists end up ruling the USA, you can all wave goodbye to a lot of businesses!
While you're in the middle of a recession!


You'll never recover!


It'll be the end of the USA as you all know it.

All sponsored and aided by the "people in the dark shadows" I'm sure.

:lamo

 

[tosca1]

It'll be the second term for Trump. Why not let him do what he can do before he goes off into the sunset?


Sure.....you don't agree with a lot of his policies. I can get that. BUT.....

.....can we agree that right now, the economy is the most important issue you - as a nation - should be dealing with.

 

[tosca1]

The economy was coming back on its own before Trump

I saw the record-breaking stock and job numbers under Trump , Luther.

The economy may have been coming back before Trump........but it went fast track to roaring back with Trump!



You need a fast-track again! MORE THAN EVER!

 

[Luther]

I saw the record-breaking stock and job numbers under Trump , Luther.

The economy may have been coming back before Trump........but it went fast track to roaring back with Trump!



You need a fast-track again! MORE THAN EVER!

I saw the record-breaking stock and job numbers under Trump , Luther.

I use to hear how great the stock market was just before the Great Recession(second only to the Great Depression)

 

[MTAtech]

Expect to be inundated by fake news and dirty politics leading to the election. A serious contemplation is needed here. So much is at stake.

There are only two choices here come November:
Either you'd vote for Trump, which means the economy will be roaring back to the way it was before the unexpected
Pandemic had hit the fan........


.......or.................. you'd gamble on a SOCIALIST government by voting for Biden.[/B]




If you're in it only because of Biden - well, the reality is, Biden won't be in it for long.



Yeah, we can try to fool and convince ourselves that a socialist government will never fly in the USA. Don't kid yourself.
Socialism is gaining all over the world. Most democracies have a foot already in it - all it takes is just bringing the other foot in!




No matter how rosy these socialists want to paint it - their vision is NOT SUSTAINABLE. Look what happened to Venezuela.


How socialism turned Venezuela from the wealthiest country in South America into an
economic basket case

How socialism turned Venezuela from the wealthiest country in South America into an economic basket case | Fox News






How would you like your kids - and your grand children - to live in a socialist country?
Will that be your legacy?

Thank you for your right-wing, fact-free, stream of consciousnesses view of the campaign. Let me inject some facts:

On the economy
The economy did not "roar back" under Trump. Trump enjoyed Obama's healed economy while he pretended that he performed miracles. He didn't. Trump's only economic policy was his 2017 tax-cuts, that fell almost completely on the rich and corporations. Those tax-cuts were supposed to boost wages and boost business investment. There was no increase in business investment but there was wage growth -- only because states raised the minimum wage. Here are two graphs that show Trump's economic performance -- all pre-pandemic numbers.

SEE VIDEO HERE

"Socialism"
The idea that Joe Biden, who spent the last 45 years of his political life as a moderate is really a stealth socialist, is laughable and preposterous.

Throwing in Venezuela is even more absurd. No proposals by anyone in authority in the Democratic Party want to nationalize the means of production, which is what socialism calls for. The idea that strengthening Obamacare or instituting universal child care is going to turn America into Venezuela is a lame attempt to grossly mischaracterize both Mr. Biden and the Democratic Party, from the Trump campaign, that has no real ideas on how to improve America. So, he has to try to knock down his challenger, instead of pointing to his accomplishments. Since the Trump campaign can't find anything substantive to criticize Biden, they need to invent false claims -- "He's a socialist!"

 

[Luther]

It'll be the second term for Trump. Why not let him do what he can do before he goes off into the sunset?


Sure.....you don't agree with a lot of his policies. I can get that. BUT.....

.....can we agree that right now, the economy is the most important issue you - as a nation - should be dealing with.

It'll be the second term for Trump. Why not let him do what he can do before he goes off into the sunset?

Did you know that those who don't pay a Fed income tax grew under Trump?

.....can we agree that right now, the economy is the most important issue you - as a nation - should be dealing with.

Actually, there's unintended consequences to a great economy. I'm getting screwed in property taxes$$$$$$$. All this growth in my area is forcing me to MOVE

Also, during an economic Boom, Government only grows

No, the biggest issue is too high immigration

 

[Luther]

Of course.....if the socialists end up ruling the USA, you can all wave goodbye to a lot of businesses!
While you're in the middle of a recession!


You'll never recover!



It'll be the end of the USA as you all know it.

You don't get it

What goes up, must come down

 

[BrotherFease]

How is Biden a socialist?

In reality, Biden is running as pretty moderate. He supports raising taxes on Americans making over 400k. He wants to grant a pathway to legalization for illegal immigrants, adding a a public option, and encourage more green energy production rather than relying on fossil fuels.

Trump hasn't proposed anything for his second-term. He's running on "fear of the devil you don't know".

There has been a lot of Republican presidents who raised taxes, like Hoover, Reagan, Bush and Trump himself.

 

[MTAtech]

How is Biden a socialist?

In reality, Biden is running as pretty moderate. He supports raising taxes on Americans making over 400k. He wants to grant a pathway to legalization for illegal immigrants, adding a a public option, and encourage more green energy production rather than relying on fossil fuels.

Trump hasn't proposed anything for his second-term. He's running on "fear of the devil you don't know".

There has been a lot of Republican presidents who raised taxes, like Hoover, Reagan, Bush and Trump himself.

Reading the OP's screed, it can't be argued on rational grounds. It's our rational thought against an imaginary villain.

 

[Luther]

I saw the record-breaking stock and job numbers under Trump , Luther.

The economy may have been coming back before Trump........but it went fast track to roaring back with Trump!



You need a fast-track again! MORE THAN EVER!

and job numbers under Trump , Luther.

Oh yes, like this?


Trump administration announces additional 35,000 seasonal worker visas - CNNPolitics

 

[Luther]

How is Biden a socialist?

In reality, Biden is running as pretty moderate. He supports raising taxes on Americans making over 400k. He wants to grant a pathway to legalization for illegal immigrants, adding a a public option, and encourage more green energy production rather than relying on fossil fuels.

Trump hasn't proposed anything for his second-term. He's running on "fear of the devil you don't know".

There has been a lot of Republican presidents who raised taxes, like Hoover, Reagan, Bush and Trump himself.

He supports raising taxes on Americans making over 400k.

Why when these people pay the most Fed income tax now?

How about the 44% who don't even pay a DOLLAR in a Fed income tax pay something?

He wants to grant a pathway to legalization for illegal immigrants,

Now why would he want to do something legal that was illegal?

 

[Casper]

Thank you for your right-wing, fact-free, stream of consciousnesses view of the campaign. Let me inject some facts:

On the economy
The economy did not "roar back" under Trump. Trump enjoyed Obama's healed economy while he pretended that he performed miracles. He didn't. Trump's only economic policy was his 2017 tax-cuts, that fell almost completely on the rich and corporations. Those tax-cuts were supposed to boost wages and boost business investment. There was no increase in business investment but there was wage growth -- only because states raised the minimum wage. Here are two graphs that show Trump's economic performance -- all pre-pandemic numbers.

SEE VIDEO HERE

"Socialism"
The idea that Joe Biden, who spent the last 45 years of his political life as a moderate is really a stealth socialist, is laughable and preposterous.

Throwing in Venezuela is even more absurd. No proposals by anyone in authority in the Democratic Party want to nationalize the means of production, which is what socialism calls for. The idea that strengthening Obamacare or instituting universal child care is going to turn America into Venezuela is a lame attempt to grossly mischaracterize both Mr. Biden and the Democratic Party, from the Trump campaign, that has no real ideas on how to improve America. So, he has to try to knock down his challenger, instead of pointing to his accomplishments. Since the Trump campaign can't find anything substantive to criticize Biden, they need to invent false claims -- "He's a socialist!"

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Well said :applaud

 

[ElChupacabra]

Reading the OP's screed, it can't be argued on rational grounds. It's our rational thought against an imaginary villain.

Yeah, after listening to all of the speeches during the RNC, I can understand how some buy into the idea of this imaginary villain. It's not supported by reality, or previous precedent, but I don't think that's going to stop those who buy into this kind of rhetoric. What I don't underestimate is the fear incited by the "they're going to destroy the suburbs" rhetoric; I don't doubt that will strike a chord with some and motivate them to vote for him based on that alone.

 

[Luther]

It'll be the second term for Trump. Why not let him do what he can do before he goes off into the sunset?


Sure.....you don't agree with a lot of his policies. I can get that. BUT.....

.....can we agree that right now, the economy is the most important issue you - as a nation - should be dealing with.

the economy is the most important issue you - as a nation - should be dealing with.

Here is our REAL problem

Americans don't even know what it is to be an American. This is what we should be dealing with

That is our most important issue

 

[Luther]

All the more you need a president who can bring you out of it! :shrug:


We already know what Trump can do when it comes to the economy.

We already know what Trump can do when it comes to the economy.

Yes, especially one that was far away from the greatest RECESSION since the Great Depression?

 

[Praxas]

Of course.....if the socialists end up ruling the USA, you can all wave goodbye to a lot of businesses!
While you're in the middle of a recession!


You'll never recover!



It'll be the end of the USA as you all know it.

This is the same tripe that Conservatives said about a SECOND TERM of Obama. More chicken little nonsense coming from Trump supporters who know Trump is going to lose because he is a lying, corrupt and authoritarian supporting douchbag.

Pretty sad that conservatives now have to LIE in order to save their Orange Oompa Loompa. Trump supporters can **** OFF.

 

[TheParser]

Don't kid yourself.

1. Many people ARE kidding themselves, actually.

2. Many young college-"educated" Euro Americans are moving south and are changing those states, even Georgia!

3. Thanks to the woke media and college "professors," many of those young people are foolishly buying into the program of the Dems.

4. The nation is a-changing. Like it or not.

5. Come January, we will have a BLM- and ANTIFA-sponsored government.

 

[Ginger Ale]

The economy will come roaring back when this pandemic is over.


We all know how well Trump is handling this pandemic. The people who vote for Trump are so good at stoping the spread I think the economy will pop back in no time!


:lamo

 

[rickc]

Expect to be inundated by fake news and dirty politics leading to the election. A serious contemplation is needed here. So much is at stake.




There are only two choices here come November:


Either you'd vote for Trump, which means the economy will be roaring back to the way it was before the unexpected
Pandemic had hit the fan........


.......or.................. you'd gamble on a SOCIALIST government by voting for Biden.




If you're in it only because of Biden - well, the reality is, Biden won't be in it for long.



Yeah, we can try to fool and convince ourselves that a socialist government will never fly in the USA. Don't kid yourself.
Socialism is gaining all over the world. Most democracies have a foot already in it - all it takes is just bringing the other foot in!




No matter how rosy these socialists want to paint it - their vision is NOT SUSTAINABLE. Look what happened to Venezuela.


How socialism turned Venezuela from the wealthiest country in South America into an
economic basket case

How socialism turned Venezuela from the wealthiest country in South America into an economic basket case | Fox News






How would you like your kids - and your grand children - to live in a socialist country?
Will that be your legacy?

Wow!

What a crock of right wing B. S. !!