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Undecided Voters, The Choices are Clear

I suppose you don't know what socialism is if you can't recognize it.


Do your homework. I'm not here to spoonfeed anyone.

It's clear you have no idea what socialism is. You keep demonstrating your LACK of knowledge of it with each of your posts.

Biden 2020..... Dump Trump. Trump supporters can **** off and burn in hell.
 
The choice is clear.

Jo Jorgensen for an intelligent, capable, adult President.
 
All the threads and posts fearing a Socialist US if Biden/Harris win don't account for a moderate Senate. Even if Dems take full control I seriously doubt the Senate Democrats would go along with some of the more ambitious House bills.

Think with the growing importance of judge appointments Democrats might loathe doing anything which might cause a backlash from moderate voters. I want change, but won't blame Dems too much if they take a more conservative approach if they take over the Senate.

Imo, the Senate will continue be a moderating force regardless of who's in charge. So, fears of a Socialist US from Republicans are without merit if you're intellectually honest about the makeup of the Senate and know how bills get reconciled with the House.

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Where is this phantom socialism that you speak? I don’t see it. So, I’m asking, what policies of Joe Biden do you consider socialism? Please show your work.
I suppose you don't know what socialism is if you can't recognize it.


Do your homework. I'm not here to spoonfeed anyone.
As I expected, you answer a direct question with an evasive non-answer, which indicates that you cannot honestly answer the question.

As every 6th grader knows, socialism is when the government owns the means of production. Joe Biden isn't advocating that. If you disagree, I repeat, what policies of Joe Biden do you consider socialism?
 
All sponsored and aided by the "people in the dark shadows" I'm sure.

:lamo

Better think beyond the moment and beyond your hatred of Trump, this is the person you want a heartbeat from the Presidency if Biden is elected

Who Is Kamala Harris? | Right Wing Granny

"I watched an interview with her. She is attractive, animated and absurd. She stated that she never had children; yet was a “Mother to her husband’s children.” And she “loved being a Mother.” She said the children called her “Momela”. Anyway, she led her audience to believe that she mothered these kids. I looked her up. She married her husband when the son was in his 3rd year of college and the daughter was in 10th grade and they actually lived with their biological Mother, except for normal visits with their father—so much for Motherhood. Right after hearing that, I discovered she was an opportunistic liar.

She is beating Pence in the Current ratings for VP.

I do remember Kamala Harris. I had just been elected to the State Assembly in 1994 and, at that time, the ultimate “power broker” that controlled every aspect of California’s state government was the Speaker of the House, Willie Brown. He ran Sacramento like it was his own personal fiefdom and handed out jobs to loyalists and fired people who were disloyal. He broke every ethical law in the book, but was never held to account by anyone. He was married, but openly had mistresses which he showed off by bringing them to public events.

At the time I arrived in Sacramento, Willie was seeing a young girl who was in her late 20’s. He was in his 60’s. She was his mistress and he showered her with gifts and appointed her to a number of State government jobs. Her name was Kamala Harris. Willie launched her political career because she was having sex with him. The idea that she is an “independent” woman who worked her way up the political ladder because she worked hard is baloney. It is common knowledge in California that Kamala slept her way into powerful political jobs.

And now she is running for VP with a man who will be unable to govern due to his lack of mental clarity. In essence, she will function as the President of the United States should the Biden/Harris ticket prevail this November. Her views on guns, taxes, immigration, energy, etc., are far to the left of the average America , but you watch the media ignore these positions.

For example, she believes illegal aliens are eligible to ALL government services, including education, welfare benefits, health care, you name it. In other words, she does NOT believe there is a difference between a citizen and a non-citizen. That view alone will cost us billions of dollars if acted upon. Her view of the constitution is frankly bizarre and dangerous and she is willing to enact laws restricting our 2nd Amendment rights even if such laws violate our constitution.

She will be the most radical person to run for VP in American history, but you won’t see any of this on the news. You will soon witness a massive campaign by the media to deceive you about who she is and what she believes. Don’t fall for it.


Steve Baldwin, former Congressman, State of California
 
Better think beyond the moment and beyond your hatred of Trump, this is the person you want a heartbeat from the Presidency if Biden is elected

Who Is Kamala Harris? | Right Wing Granny

Yeah, Right Wing Granny is your place for unbiased news and information. Oh, brother.

Slut shaming and falsely claiming Biden is mentally impaired is all the right-wing has. Let me know the next time Biden claims that windmills cause cancer or Covid can be treated by injecting disinfectants into the body.
 
Expect to be inundated by fake news and dirty politics leading to the election. A serious contemplation is needed here. So much is at stake.




There are only two choices here come November:


Either you'd vote for Trump, which means the economy will be roaring back to the way it was before the unexpected
Pandemic had hit the fan........


.......or.................. you'd gamble on a SOCIALIST government by voting for Biden.





If you're in it only because of Biden - well, the reality is, Biden won't be in it for long.



Yeah, we can try to fool and convince ourselves that a socialist government will never fly in the USA. Don't kid yourself.
Socialism is gaining all over the world. Most democracies have a foot already in it - all it takes is just bringing the other foot in!




No matter how rosy these socialists want to paint it - their vision is NOT SUSTAINABLE. Look what happened to Venezuela.


How socialism turned Venezuela from the wealthiest country in South America into an
economic basket case


How socialism turned Venezuela from the wealthiest country in South America into an economic basket case | Fox News






How would you like your kids - and your grand children - to live in a socialist country?
Will that be your legacy?

Your argument is flawed, in that you have created a false dichotomy.
 
It's clear you have no idea what socialism is. You keep demonstrating your LACK of knowledge of it with each of your posts.

Biden 2020..... Dump Trump. Trump supporters can **** off and burn in hell.

:lol:

You're already losing your cool?

Lol.....how will you be when Trump wins again? :mrgreen:
 
All the threads and posts fearing a Socialist US if Biden/Harris win don't account for a moderate Senate. Even if Dems take full control
I seriously doubt the Senate Democrats would go along with some of the more ambitious House bills.

Think with the growing importance of judge appointments Democrats might loathe doing anything which might cause a backlash from moderate voters. I want change, but won't blame Dems too much if they take a more conservative approach if they take over the Senate.

Imo, the Senate will continue be a moderating force regardless of who's in charge. So, fears of a Socialist US from Republicans are without merit if you're intellectually honest about the makeup of the Senate and know how bills get reconciled with the House.

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Yeah. Hell of a price to pay if you're wrong. Once the radicals get their foot in - that's it.
The Senate Democrats who won't go along are.......not going to be there for the long haul! They're old!

Furthermore.....

How sure are you that these Senate Dems you speak of aren't going to be swayed over?


When the radicals start dolling out "universal this," "universal that," "universal everything"...................you think people aren't going to be enticed by it all?

They're going use the PANDEMIC as an excuse to transition into socialist programs!


A Universal Basic Income is now being proposed to transition from the CERB benefit we get ($2,000 a month due to the pandemic).
Well - as you can see who wants to hurry back to work when you're getting that much staying home?
Of course, we know we'll end up paying for it somehow! We're racking up deficits like there is no tomorrow.
But who cares, right? Let the future generation deal with it!
 
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Your argument is flawed, in that you have created a false dichotomy.

It seems to me, the argument is 'reelect me so I can fix what I broke'
 
Expect to be inundated by fake news and dirty politics leading to the election. A serious contemplation is needed here. So much is at stake.




There are only two choices here come November:


Either you'd vote for Trump, which means the economy will be roaring back to the way it was before the unexpected
Pandemic had hit the fan........


.......or.................. you'd gamble on a SOCIALIST government by voting for Biden.





If you're in it only because of Biden - well, the reality is, Biden won't be in it for long.



Yeah, we can try to fool and convince ourselves that a socialist government will never fly in the USA. Don't kid yourself.
Socialism is gaining all over the world. Most democracies have a foot already in it - all it takes is just bringing the other foot in!




No matter how rosy these socialists want to paint it - their vision is NOT SUSTAINABLE. Look what happened to Venezuela.


How socialism turned Venezuela from the wealthiest country in South America into an
economic basket case


How socialism turned Venezuela from the wealthiest country in South America into an economic basket case | Fox News






How would you like your kids - and your grand children - to live in a socialist country?
Will that be your legacy?

Biden has said he would lock the country down to fight the virus, bringing on a Great Depression. He will follow the science and listen to the health experts - unless they say a vaccine is ready then he won't follow the science and listen to the health experts.
 
It'll be the second term for Trump. Why not let him do what he can do before he goes off into the sunset?

The old "What do you have to lose" bs from 2016.

:lamo
 
Well said :applaud

Didn't realize Obama was on the ballot but have learned enough basic math to know that percentage change never trumps dollar growth, 2% GDP growth on an 18 trillion dollar economy isn't quite the same as 2% growth on a 21 trillion dollar economy.

You can continue to tout those incredible Obama numbers while ignoring that he lost the House in 10-12-14-16 and the Senate in 14-16 and 18. The American people don't seem to be much interested in the liberal economic policies and I am sure that most undecided voters have TV's watching that liberalism promotes in Seattle, Portland, LA, SF, Chicago, Minneapolis, Kenosha, NYC.

Your posts and those of the left continue to ignore that the American people given a choice between liberal cities and states choose law and order regardless of the political ideology. They also seem to understand that when you vote for the same ideology over and over again getting the same results as those liberal states and cities that is what Einstein calls insanity
 
Expect to be inundated by fake news and dirty politics leading to the election. A serious contemplation is needed here. So much is at stake.




There are only two choices here come November:


Either you'd vote for Trump, which means the economy will be roaring back to the way it was before the unexpected
Pandemic had hit the fan........


.......or.................. you'd gamble on a SOCIALIST government by voting for Biden.





If you're in it only because of Biden - well, the reality is, Biden won't be in it for long.



Yeah, we can try to fool and convince ourselves that a socialist government will never fly in the USA. Don't kid yourself.
Socialism is gaining all over the world. Most democracies have a foot already in it - all it takes is just bringing the other foot in!




No matter how rosy these socialists want to paint it - their vision is NOT SUSTAINABLE. Look what happened to Venezuela.


How socialism turned Venezuela from the wealthiest country in South America into an
economic basket case


How socialism turned Venezuela from the wealthiest country in South America into an economic basket case | Fox News






How would you like your kids - and your grand children - to live in a socialist country?
Will that be your legacy?

Undecided voters will vote against the person they think will do the most damage to them personally.
 
Didn't realize Obama was on the ballot but have learned enough basic math to know that percentage change never trumps dollar growth, 2% GDP growth on an 18 trillion dollar economy isn't quite the same as 2% growth on a 21 trillion dollar economy.

You can continue to tout those incredible Obama numbers while ignoring that he lost the House in 10-12-14-16 and the Senate in 14-16 and 18. The American people don't seem to be much interested in the liberal economic policies and I am sure that most undecided voters have TV's watching that liberalism promotes in Seattle, Portland, LA, SF, Chicago, Minneapolis, Kenosha, NYC.

Your posts and those of the left continue to ignore that the American people given a choice between liberal cities and states choose law and order regardless of the political ideology. They also seem to understand that when you vote for the same ideology over and over again getting the same results as those liberal states and cities that is what Einstein calls insanity
Umm I applauded what someone else said, and that was your reply??:roll:

Clue, the majority of Americans prefer to live in Dem run cities, so much for that nonsense.
 
Expect to be inundated by fake news and dirty politics leading to the election. A serious contemplation is needed here. So much is at stake.




There are only two choices here come November:


Either you'd vote for Trump, which means the economy will be roaring back to the way it was before the unexpected
Pandemic had hit the fan........


.......or.................. you'd gamble on a SOCIALIST government by voting for Biden.





If you're in it only because of Biden - well, the reality is, Biden won't be in it for long.



Yeah, we can try to fool and convince ourselves that a socialist government will never fly in the USA. Don't kid yourself.
Socialism is gaining all over the world. Most democracies have a foot already in it - all it takes is just bringing the other foot in!




No matter how rosy these socialists want to paint it - their vision is NOT SUSTAINABLE. Look what happened to Venezuela.


How socialism turned Venezuela from the wealthiest country in South America into an
economic basket case


How socialism turned Venezuela from the wealthiest country in South America into an economic basket case | Fox News






How would you like your kids - and your grand children - to live in a socialist country?
Will that be your legacy?

tosca1, Tell us more about socialism:

Grover Norquist's Americans for Tax Reform took money from the Paycheck Protection Program.

In sign of the times, Ayn Rand Institute approved for PPP loan - Reuters
 
Undecided voters will vote against the person they think will do the most damage to them personally.

Any undecided voters at this point probably should not be voting, either you want four more years of an inept con man or you don't.
 
Umm I applauded what someone else said, and that was your reply??:roll:

Clue, the majority of Americans prefer to live in Dem run cities, so much for that nonsense.

LOL, apparently fleeing those cities and states doesn't resonate with you but policies like this does

Texas Won’t Allow Austin to Defund Police | United Voice

Are the wealthy fleeing California taxes? – Orange County Register

As the wealthy flee New York, poorest will be most affected | TheHill

New IRS Migration Numbers Confirm Flight of Illinois' Wealthy
 
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Any undecided voters at this point probably should not be voting, either you want four more years of an inept con man or you don't.

I am so sorry that the economic and foreign policy results haven't benefited or even resonated with you as you can offer no valid reason NOT to vote for Trump by posting data to support your claims. I guess once a liberal who has become dependent on liberalism always a liberal. Great idea for you, since you love liberalism so much why don't you replace one of those fleeing liberals from California, NY, Illinois or any other high cost of living state as obviously you can afford it so rather than spreading liberal misery equally to everyone else, join those staying in those states and share their misery equally

Texas Won’t Allow Austin to Defund Police | United Voice
 
Yeah. Hell of a price to pay if you're wrong. Once the radicals get their foot in - that's it.
The Senate Democrats who won't go along are.......not going to be there for the long haul! They're old!

Furthermore.....

How sure are you that these Senate Dems you speak of aren't going to be swayed over?


When the radicals start dolling out "universal this," "universal that," "universal everything"...................you think people aren't going to be enticed by it all?

They're going use the PANDEMIC as an excuse to transition into socialist programs!


A Universal Basic Income is now being proposed to transition from the CERB benefit we get ($2,000 a month due to the pandemic).
Well - as you can see who wants to hurry back to work when you're getting that much staying home?
Of course, we know we'll end up paying for it somehow! We're racking up deficits like there is no tomorrow.
But who cares, right? Let the future generation deal with it!
Think Biden will move closer to the center if elected. Believe he's more comfortable there.
So, just don't see the more ambitious goals becoming a reality.
Obama got Healthcare expansion, Trump got the tax cuts. Biden will get tax increases.


With increased taxes on the wealthy Democrats will try to increase healthcare coverage, invest in green technology, invest in infrastructure, and maybe education affordability will be addressed.

Since Biden was in the Senate he'll want to work with moderate Sentators from the GOP to come across as Bipartisan.

Alarmists are using scare tactics, it's expected. Might work, might not we'll see in November.

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Expect to be inundated by fake news and dirty politics leading to the election. A serious contemplation is needed here. So much is at stake.




There are only two choices here come November:


Either you'd vote for Trump, which means the economy will be roaring back to the way it was before the unexpected
Pandemic had hit the fan........


.......or.................. you'd gamble on a SOCIALIST government by voting for Biden.





If you're in it only because of Biden - well, the reality is, Biden won't be in it for long.



Yeah, we can try to fool and convince ourselves that a socialist government will never fly in the USA. Don't kid yourself.
Socialism is gaining all over the world. Most democracies have a foot already in it - all it takes is just bringing the other foot in!




No matter how rosy these socialists want to paint it - their vision is NOT SUSTAINABLE. Look what happened to Venezuela.


How socialism turned Venezuela from the wealthiest country in South America into an
economic basket case


How socialism turned Venezuela from the wealthiest country in South America into an economic basket case | Fox News






How would you like your kids - and your grand children - to live in a socialist country?
Will that be your legacy?

So you come here to do sales pitches? You actually think there are undecided voters in this forum?
 
I am so sorry that the economic and foreign policy results haven't benefited or even resonated with you as you can offer no valid reason NOT to vote for Trump by posting data to support your claims. I guess once a liberal who has become dependent on liberalism always a liberal. Great idea for you, since you love liberalism so much why don't you replace one of those fleeing liberals from California, NY, Illinois or any other high cost of living state as obviously you can afford it so rather than spreading liberal misery equally to everyone else, join those staying in those states and share their misery equally

Texas Won’t Allow Austin to Defund Police | United Voice
Wow, you ran out of BS so you attack me, thinking you have nothing further to add to the discussion, you are dismissed.
Have a nice Labor Day
 
Of course.....if the socialists end up ruling the USA, you can all wave goodbye to a lot of businesses!
While you're in the middle of a recession!


You'll never recover!



It'll be the end of the USA as you all know it.

:dramallama:

Drama Llama thinks you are over-doing your panic sale here.
 
Think Biden will move closer to the center if elected. Believe he's more comfortable there.
So, just don't see the more ambitious goals becoming a reality.
Obama got Healthcare expansion, Trump got the tax cuts. Biden will get tax increases.


With increased taxes on the wealthy Democrats will try to increase healthcare coverage, invest in green technology, invest in infrastructure, and maybe education affordability will be addressed.

Since Biden was in the Senate he'll want to work with moderate Sentators from the GOP to come across as Bipartisan.

Alarmists are using scare tactics, it's expected. Might work, might not we'll see in November.

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Where do you think Kamala Harris will move since she will be a heartbeat from the Presidency?
 
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