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UK Election Prediction thread

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So what is your prediction? Lets see who gets close.

I think the tories will win the most seats ( around 280) however we will see a hung parliament, eventually we will see Labour and the Lib Dems form a collation which will be enough to secure a majority and will make Miliband the next PM.
 
So what is your prediction? Lets see who gets close.

I think the tories will win the most seats ( around 280) however we will see a hung parliament, eventually we will see Labour and the Lib Dems form a collation which will be enough to secure a majority and will make Miliband the next PM.

I also think the Conservatives will gain the most seats. If that is the case and Labour thus gains fewer than 280 seats it is very unlikely that Labour and LibDems together will have an overall majority. The coalition you suggest would need the support of the SNP to gain a majority.

Personally I'm betting on a Conservative minority government supported by UKIP (and maybe also DUP).
 
I also think the Conservatives will gain the most seats. If that is the case and Labour thus gains fewer than 280 seats it is very unlikely that Labour and LibDems together will have an overall majority. The coalition you suggest would need the support of the SNP to gain a majority.

Personally I'm betting on a Conservative minority government supported by UKIP (and maybe also DUP).

I actually think the LIb dems and Labour are going to pick up more seats than is being forecasted which will hopefully get them close to that magic number of 326.
 
I actually think the LIb dems and Labour are going to pick up more seats than is being forecasted which will hopefully get them close to that magic number of 326.

Anything is possible I guess, but I think the LibDems will lose pretty heavily.
 
Come on IC, Gunner, Andy, manc, Alexa etc. Lets be having you.
 
It is a tricky one due to the UK election system.

Labour will be all but wiped out in Scotland and that will be the story.

Conservatives will be the biggest party, but only barely.

UKIP will get 1 seat, and Farage wont win.

Lib Dems will get around 30 seats

Government will be Labour after a lot of Conservative bull****, but I suspect that the Lib Dems will defect and support a Labour government along with the SNP and others.
 
Come on IC, Gunner, Andy, manc, Alexa etc. Lets be having you.

A conservative led government. It won't be a quick coalition deal, it will depend on how badly the Liberals do, as to who will form that government. More of the same, I suppose. UKIP will get more than one seat, and the SNP will do as predicted in Scotland.
 
Not having any insider information or being on the scene and having direct access to the pulse of the race, I'm inclined to believe that Cameron will be returned and allowed to continue the programs he's initiated. Gaining the majority he hoped for will be unlikely, but I do believe he will again cobble together a minority government that can govern. That's my uneducated guess.

Just as an aside, I think the birth of Princess Charlotte will calm and lighten the hearts of many people/voters and they will resist significant change/upheaval.
 
I think another General Election within 18 months first - I can't see some of the divisions being bridged unless the LibDems tie up with the Conservatives again. Anyone cosying up to the SNP will receive the kiss of death with the rest of the electorate.

I honestly can't see anyone winning enough even with a preferred partner to form a stable enough government to last the full term. My nearest guess will be the LibDems being wooed by both major parties - but the old saying (which wasn't true in the past) that Labour would never win again without Scotland may finally come true as Scotland will probably vote overwhelmingly SNP.
 
Not having any insider information or being on the scene and having direct access to the pulse of the race, I'm inclined to believe that Cameron will be returned and allowed to continue the programs he's initiated. Gaining the majority he hoped for will be unlikely, but I do believe he will again cobble together a minority government that can govern. That's my uneducated guess.

Just as an aside, I think the birth of Princess Charlotte will calm and lighten the hearts of many people/voters and they will resist significant change/upheaval.

I see that as having absolutely zero affect on peoples voting patterns, to be honest.
 
I see that as having absolutely zero affect on peoples voting patterns, to be honest.

Its actually come and gone without me noticing. Between the boxing, Bank holiday mash up and the election etc.
 
Its actually come and gone without me noticing. Between the boxing, Bank holiday mash up and the election etc.

I know, it's lovely for the family (like most families welcome a new born) but I do not see the correlation of the birth, and how someone may vote ;)
 
I see that as having absolutely zero affect on peoples voting patterns, to be honest.

Perhaps you're right - I simply note that when a country experiences good news, it helps the party in power. Nothing significant, just a mood enhancer.
 
Just as an aside, I think the birth of Princess Charlotte will calm and lighten the hearts of many people/voters and they will resist significant change/upheaval.

Ooh I think it depends John. Those who aren't delighted at the birth of yet another royal parasite could be pushed towards thinking more seriously about the drastic changes needed. But yes, for some, fill their heads with fairytales about princes and princesses and they'll forget to question the drudgery of their lives under the coalition.
 
Ooh I think it depends John. Those who aren't delighted at the birth of yet another royal parasite could be pushed towards thinking more seriously about the drastic changes needed. But yes, for some, fill their heads with fairytales about princes and princesses and they'll forget to question the drudgery of their lives under the coalition.

I know, it seems petty and mindless, but you'd be surprised how mood lifting the birth of a child can be. I'll just leave it at that.
 
This is in two parts.

I am assuming that the votes cast are roughly as we have been led to believe so that would be a lead for the Conservatives and most of the Scottish seats being SNP. As I see it the democratic response would be that whoever would be able to form a majority will be the party that takes power. As things stand at the moment that would be Labour with the help of the SNP with Plaid the Greens and if necessary the SDLP. That ought to make a working majority and as all these parties have much in common it ought to be fairly easy for them to work together.

However on two points Miliband has allowed Cameron's argument to determine English paper's and hence English public opinion (in the main) without debate. The first is that the party with the most number of seats should win – not so, first chance if they like but the party that should win is the one which looks like it has a working majority. I guess ideally it should have one such as in a coalition. The second area where Miliband has taken on Cameron's position is that it is unconstitutional or dangerous to work with the SNP who they say wish to destroy England. Miliband let go of the idea of forming a coalition with the SNP a long time ago though he had by the way said this before on I think Andrew Marr but he said very strongly a week ago that he would do no deal at all with the SNP and that he would rather the Conservatives remain in power than work with the SNP. If he did not use those words that was indeed what they meant. This has since been argued against by several Labour Ministers. Big question was why did he do something which on the face of it looks like handing the election to the Conservatives before the people of Britain have even voted. Peter Arnott at Bella eventually in a postcript to an article came up with this

Postscript: All day I’ve been wondering what possessed a careful intelligent man like Ed Miliband to say something so transparently stupid and careless. Then the answer came to me. Nick Clegg. Nick and Ed are doing a deal and what Ed said last night is part 0f the price. I’d bet my house and kids on it.

The Last Unionists Have Left the Building |

Yesterday we heard first that theLibDems had made a deal with Labour and this was followed with the LibDem's saying they would talk first to the party with the most votes.

If Miliband had got the LibDem's to agree to a coalition with them then it would seem likely that he and the LibDems would have the most votes. This would also go with the LibDems having got a new vigour by their own polls telling them they are in a far better situation that they thought - they found that when they asked if people would vote for a particular candidate rather than just the LibDems that people were far more likely to say yes and now for instance believe they are going to keep all of their eleven seats in Scotland which given they are only polling 5% on the last count looks unlikely. They imagine the same situation in England. Add to that that Labour has looked at the postal votes from Scotland – illegal but they do it and they believe that they may be able to win 11 seats which they have apparently been putting all their effort into. However the guy writing that article said – as long as the turnout is not more that 70% or we are all history. The expected turnout in Scotland is 75% or possibly more. Possibly believing these two things, that the LibDems were going to get a lot more seats and that Labour would be able to keep ten or 12 seats in Scotland allowed Miliband to believe he could manage without the SNP and hence his Question Time Statements concerning it.

I think it is unlikely that there is going to be such a change from what the polls have said which would allow Miliband to come up with a working majority just with the help of the Lib Dems. For anything else Miliband is relying heavily on the SNP sitting quietly and agreeing with everything they say which obviously is not going to happen.
 
Part 2

Very early on in the election Our Kingdom had an article suggesting that Cameron and the press knowing that the Conservatives would not win were planning a coup by propaganda in the papers creating loud voices in the country that it was quite wrong that Miliband should form the next Parliament as the Conservatives had the most seats. They believed that would lead to a second election which the Labour Pary would be unable to afford and so the Tories would win.


https://www.opendemocracy.net/ourki...coup-and-labour-is-doing-nothing-to-stop-them


Yesterday however the Herald came up with an article which sees Cameron claiming he is still prime minister and taking as long as possible to offer a Queen's Speech and using the papers like Our Kingdom foresaw while also creating a public outcry not just because they had the most seats but against Miliband working with the SNP due to this being 'unconstitutional' due of course to their desire to harm England and as Our Kingdom foresaw demanding another election.


Constitutional crisis looms as parties battle for legitimacy of next government | Herald Scotland


They were though saying on either the BBC or Channel 4 last night that they thought the Tories, LibDems and DUP could make a majority so I guess I am thinking if the Conservatives plus friends equals a majority that will be our Government. If however it is Labour and they need the SNP then it may well be another Election. I am not sure what the response to this would be in Scotland.


It doesn't feel particularly democratic to me but then nor has much of what has come up in this election. The Alex Salmond poster of him picking the pockets of Londoners for instance has got some people quite concerned. The concern is at the extent to which those in power in England are using Scotland as the scapegoat which has led some people to suggest Westminster is playing a dangerous game in portraying the Scottish people as thieves who wish to destroy England or indeed suggesting they are like Herod and people had better keep their babies safe from us – a game it is suggested using the people of Scotland in a way not dissimilar to the one the Nazis media played against the Jews


Thieves and Beggars |
 
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This is in two parts.

I am assuming that the votes cast are roughly as we have been led to believe so that would be a lead for the Conservatives and most of the Scottish seats being SNP. As I see it the democratic response would be that whoever would be able to form a majority will be the party that takes power. As things stand at the moment that would be Labour with the help of the SNP with Plaid the Greens and if necessary the SDLP. That ought to make a working majority and as all these parties have much in common it ought to be fairly easy for them to work together.

However on two points Miliband has allowed Cameron's argument to determine English paper's and hence English public opinion (in the main) without debate. The first is that the party with the most number of seats should win – not so, first chance if they like but the party that should win is the one which looks like it has a working majority. I guess ideally it should have one such as in a coalition. The second area where Miliband has taken on Cameron's position is that it is unconstitutional or dangerous to work with the SNP who they say wish to destroy England. Miliband let go of the idea of forming a coalition with the SNP a long time ago though he had by the way said this before on I think Andrew Marr but he said very strongly a week ago that he would do no deal at all with the SNP and that he would rather the Conservatives remain in power than work with the SNP. If he did not use those words that was indeed what they meant. This has since been argued against by several Labour Ministers. Big question was why did he do something which on the face of it looks like handing the election to the Conservatives before the people of Britain have even voted. Peter Arnott at Bella eventually in a postcript to an article came up with this



The Last Unionists Have Left the Building |

Yesterday we heard first that theLibDems had made a deal with Labour and this was followed with the LibDem's saying they would talk first to the party with the most votes.

If Miliband had got the LibDem's to agree to a coalition with them then it would seem likely that he and the LibDems would have the most votes. This would also go with the LibDems having got a new vigour by their own polls telling them they are in a far better situation that they thought - they found that when they asked if people would vote for a particular candidate rather than just the LibDems that people were far more likely to say yes and now for instance believe they are going to keep all of their eleven seats in Scotland which given they are only polling 5% on the last count looks unlikely. They imagine the same situation in England. Add to that that Labour has looked at the postal votes from Scotland – illegal but they do it and they believe that they may be able to win 11 seats which they have apparently been putting all their effort into. However the guy writing that article said – as long as the turnout is not more that 70% or we are all history. The expected turnout in Scotland is 75% or possibly more. Possibly believing these two things, that the LibDems were going to get a lot more seats and that Labour would be able to keep ten or 12 seats in Scotland allowed Miliband to believe he could manage without the SNP and hence his Question Time Statements concerning it.

I think it is unlikely that there is going to be such a change from what the polls have said which would allow Miliband to come up with a working majority just with the help of the Lib Dems. For anything else Miliband is relying heavily on the SNP sitting quietly and agreeing with everything they say which obviously is not going to happen.

I see it as proper and fair that whatever party has the most seats, has first crack at forming a government. I don't think anyone is swayed by the papers here, its just and fair that this should happen. Remember, we are a first past the poste system, not some for of PR. Miliband had to make an attempt at making the SNP irrelevant, for obvious reasons. Fundamentally, the SNP are for breaking up the Union, Labour are not.
 
It doesn't feel particularly democratic to me but then nor has much of what has come up in this election. The Alex Salmond poster of him picking the pockets of Londoners for instance has got some people quite concerned.

To be fair, such posters have a long history going all the way back to "Labour isn't working." You portray the opposition in a bad or negative light and the SNP do this with the evil "Westminster" demon that plays so simplistically with potential voters. Portray anything as by the English or from Westminster and Scots respond in droves to dislike it.


The concern is at the extent to which those in power in England are using Scotland as the scapegoat which has led some people to suggest Westminster is playing a dangerous game

Q.E.D. and I'd like to add "Scotland" isn't just the SNP even if the election returns 50 SNP seats at Westminster. The SNP will be part of the evil "Westminster" establishment - wonder if the irony will sink in.

in portraying the Scottish people as thieves who wish to destroy England or indeed suggesting they are like Herod and people had better keep their babies safe from us – a game it is suggested using the people of Scotland in a way not dissimilar to the one the Nazis media played against the Jews

Oh dear. Check whether these people are wearing tin foil hats please.
 
Well I voted. Polling station was busy and my facebook is full of I voted posts. High turnout?
 
Well I voted. Polling station was busy and my facebook is full of I voted posts. High turnout?

Well considering how much social media has grown since the last election, then I would not put too much stock into it.

However lets say hypothetically there is a high turnout, then does this mean bad news for Cameron as traditionally labour voters dont vote, where as Conservatives do?
 
Conservative: 35% 285 seats
Labour: 34% 275 seats
UKIP: 12% 13 seats
Liberal-Democrat: 10% 40 seats
Other: 9% 37 seats

(fixed: spreadsheet error that over-inflated UKIP)
 
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Well considering how much social media has grown since the last election, then I would not put too much stock into it.

However lets say hypothetically there is a high turnout, then does this mean bad news for Cameron as traditionally labour voters dont vote, where as Conservatives do?

Probably bad news for UKIP as well, could be good news for the Lib Dems though.
 
Probably bad news for UKIP as well, could be good news for the Lib Dems though.

Actually yes and no... depending on who are the "slackers" who are going extra to the polls. Normally it is labour type voters who could not give a rats ass, so one would automatically think it was not good for UKIP, but there is also a part of the "labour type" voter that also are racist or/and xenophobic and could be motivated to turn out based on this. This is good for UKIP.

The problem UKIP has is the voting system, as their voters are spread all over the place, where the others are more concentrated.... first past the post sucks for new parties.
 
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