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Two 13-year-olds shot while trying to steal car in Southwest Philadelphia: Police

Two 13-year-olds shot while trying to steal car in Southwest Philadelphia: Police​


Kind of make you rethink your future career choice...
 
Groogrux said:
So the guy should have just let the kids steal his car?
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How about “ … so the guy should have taken pictures of the crime in progress and called LAW ENFORCEMENT rather then incurring all the risks of foolishly taking the law into his own hands. If he had engaged the youths in a gun fire exchange, and any innocent bystanders were killed or injured, he would be, and should be held directly responsible.”

Wouldn’t that make the most sense?
 
Peter said:
With that sort of attitude I don't think you deserve to be on any jury.
I have done jury duty and you have to be impartial and I don't think you can be.
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And the law is if someone brandishes a gun on you then it’s within your right to shoot at center mass until the threat is over.
 
americanwoman said:
13 year olds out stealing cars and pulling out a gun. SMH I do have to feel bad they were shot because they are very much children who obviously have no positive role models in their lives but hopefully this can be a wake up call to those young boys to straighten up their lives.
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I try to be optimistic, but I am not that optimistic. I predict these teems will go on to commit more, and possibly worse crimes in the future as adults.
 
VySky said:
And the law is if someone brandishes a gun on you then it’s within your right to shoot at center mass until the threat is over.
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Is there any evidence at all that these kids pointed a weapon at anyone let alone the police?

There's a huge difference between just carrying a gun and pointing it in a threatening manner.
Was a gun ever recovered from the scene as that seems like a vital detail.
 
I think part of the outrage surrounding this story is the fact that the criminal perpetrators involved are 13 years old and we're shot and wounded as a result. I wonder if attitudes would be different if they were 23 years old instead? Or 33? 43?
 
Peter said:
Is there any evidence at all that these kids pointed a weapon at anyone let alone the police?
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The man who shot at them stated to police it was because one of them brandished a gun
Peter said:
There's a huge difference between just carrying a gun and pointing it in a threatening manner.
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Well that's obvious
Peter said:
Was a gun ever recovered from the scene as that seems like a vital detail.
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Not required. There were 4 carjackers. Two were shot.
 
MamboDervish said:
How about “ … so the guy should have taken pictures of the crime in progress and called LAW ENFORCEMENT rather then incurring all the risks of foolishly taking the law into his own hands. If he had engaged the youths in a gun fire exchange, and any innocent bystanders were killed or injured, he would be, and should be held directly responsible.”

Wouldn’t that make the most sense?
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No, because the car would be gone and Philly police officers have way more important things than look for a stolen car. If you call the police in most of Philly and don’t say someone has a weapon, they’re not coming. Then the guy would be out a car.
 
JMR said:
In many places the crime is shooting unarmed persons who are not a physical threat.
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And many places if 1 of 4 commit murder they all 4 are charged with murder.

And so applies if 1 of 4 pulls a gun. All are at risk of being shot.
 
VySky said:
And many places if 1 of 4 commit murder they all 4 are charged with murder.

And so applies if 1 of 4 pulls a gun. All are at risk of being shot.
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There has been no evidence yet presented that 1 of the 4 pulled a gun.
 
I do not feel bad for them, not going to feel bad for them. That young and wanting that life, they got a harsh lesson very early into that career.

Better life choices?
 
JMR said:
There has been no evidence yet presented that 1 of the 4 pulled a gun.
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The man who shot the youths said they did.
 
JMR said:
There has been no evidence yet presented that 1 of the 4 pulled a gun.
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An Eye witness and the fact that 2 got away long enough to have get rid of the evidence. A lot of these teenagers pretend to be armed as well. I have watched it in the street from my bedroom window late at night. While they may think it is cool when someone with a gun feels threatened and starts shooting being cool will get you dead.
 
JMR said:
I know he did, however no gun has been found.....Was there another witness?
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Why would the 2 that fled throw a gun away?
 
VySky said:
Why would the 2 that fled throw a gun away?
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IF there was a gun, they could have. So far it appears there was no witness, and no gun. I'm not defending stealing cars. I don't support shooting unarmed kids. This story has a lot of unanswered questions.
 
JMR said:
IF there was a gun, they could have. So far it appears there was no witness, and no gun. I'm not defending stealing cars. I don't support shooting unarmed kids. This story has a lot of unanswered questions.
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Fair enough
 
Groogrux said:
No, because the car would be gone and Philly police officers have way more important things than look for a stolen car. If you call the police in most of Philly and don’t say someone has a weapon, they’re not coming. Then the guy would be out a car.
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That's about as high a heaping pile of bullshit in one answer anyone can possibly muster. If someone is stealing your car, and they are not armed, and you pull a gun on them, what the **** do you think you can do about it? Hmmm? Shoot them?!!? Only somebody with their head WAY up their own ass would think that was an appropriate response, let alone one that they could legally get away with.

And that goes for Philly, or anywhere else in this country.
 
VySky said:
The man who shot the youths said they did.
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Until a gun is recovered we only have his word that the kids had a gun.
He could be lying.
 
Peter said:
Until a gun is recovered we only have his word that the kids had a gun.
He could be lying.
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His testimony is evidence.
 
Peter said:
Is it worth shooting 2 people to protect?
I don't think it is no matter how nice it is.
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They are trash. They get what they get.
 
Peter said:
I don't think shooting at children should be allowed to prevent car theft.
A car can be easily replaced.
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So can a shitty little criminal kid
 
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