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It wasn't. It's not a Cruz PAC.
Let me see if I understand you correctly.
Cruz is responsible for an ad that does not quote him, but Cruz is not responsible for what his hand-picked spokesperson says because there is no Cruz quote?
A new low?? Are you kidding? Trump is a bottomless pit of new lows.
While Cruz wasn't directly responsible...his PAC tried to "slut shame" Trump's wife. I think he had every right to be outraged...BUT...the way he responded was very telling how he would handle criticism if president...tit for tat. It wasn't very good statesmanship.
Trump and his twittering might be his downfall.
1. If so, that would be a felony. At some point you should present evidence of such if you are going to claim it.
2. As I understand, it wasn't even a pro-Cruz PAC, it was an anti-Trump PAC.
In the latest, after someone posts a racy photo shoot of Trump's wife (a real photo shoot the babe did once) in a support ad for Cruz, Trump comes out and tweets an unflattering pic of Cruz's wife, next to one of those fakey glamour shots of the Trump wife (just a head shot).
Cruz is mad, points his finger, and tells Trump not to mess with his wife, Heidi. Cruz further says that the reason Trump has a problem with Meagan Kelly of Fox is that Trump doesn't like strong women and feels threatened by them.
Point: Cruz. Trump lost this.
Attacking the opponent's family is off base. Way off base. Trump sank to a new low. And, as in the past, it centers around WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE. To Trump, there is simply nothing else important about women.
Point: Let's give Cruz two points. He comes out ahead because of how pitiful Trump acted.
Coordinating like that between a candidate and a PAC.I'm sorry...what "felony" would that be?
i cannot find where cruz came out and criticized that use of melania's nudie photo
his failure to do so - because that photo was intended to hurt his opponent - implies cruz was OK with such misuse of tRump's spouse's photo
which is why i am asking to see a cite where cruz made such an objection
Coordinating like that between a candidate and a PAC.
Reviewing and approving/not-approving adsCoordinating like what?
Reviewing and approving/not-approving ads
Coordinating like that between a candidate and a PAC.
Sorry, you need to be much clearer than that.
What kind of coordination are you talking about? Let's be specific here if you are going to throw out bold statements like "it's a felony!"
Cite the law! Chapter and Verse. Let me review it to see if what I said holds no water.
I have given up making predictions about trump.
The only prediction I will make is that this campagin will continue to descend into the abyss.
The kind that he was accused of: reviewing and approving/disapproving ads.
Of course, we all know this excuse is bull**** and they coordinate all the time. But it's interesting that people think hundreds of millions of dollars get spent on campaigns that the politicians have zero control over.
Cruz had an opportunity to address the ad in his own words. With that opportunity, he fed us the sexist claim that "real men don't attack women," baiting Trump (note that he has attacked Hillary- and not just on policy issues like people have claimed here). Instead of denouncing the ad, he figuratively smiled, claimed he didn't do it, and preemptively insulted Trump's character.
Responsibility is not always so black and white. Cruz had the opportunity to denounce the ad, himself, but he didn't. He is responsible for that.
What some PR expert he hires says on his behalf is not so severely distinguishable from what a super pac says on his behalf. Recall when he fired Rick Tyler ? Did he fire Rick Tyler because Rick Tyler said exactly what Cruz wanted him to say, but he wanted to wash the mud off his own hands ?
Or what ?
The kind that he was accused of: reviewing and approving/disapproving ads.
:shrug: well I'm always open to the possibility that I am wrong. If you can show me where candidates can coordinate with their PACs, please do.Okay so in this instance you really don't know what you are talking about and you are just throwing your "opinion" out there. Fine. :coffeepap:
:shrug: well I'm always open to the possibility that I am wrong. If you can show me where candidates can coordinate with their PACs, please do.
:shrug: well I'm always open to the possibility that I am wrong. If you can show me where candidates can coordinate with their PACs, please do.
EXACTLY! I've worked on two campaigns in my lifetime...
Of course they can.
For one, they can coordinate before they announce their candidacy.
For two, they can coordinate through public channels, say, by releasing hours of interview footage that a super pac can edit for talking points.
For three, all they have to do is make the interaction sufficiently indirect to avoid indictment. How difficult is that ?
Yes Trump is trash. And Cruz might be even worse.
Cruz had an opportunity to address the ad in his own words. With that opportunity, he fed us the sexist claim that "real men don't attack women," baiting Trump (note that he has attacked Hillary- and not just on policy issues like people have claimed here). Instead of denouncing the ad, he figuratively smiled, claimed he didn't do it, and preemptively insulted Trump's character.
Responsibility is not always so black and white. Cruz had the opportunity to denounce the ad, himself, but he didn't. He is responsible for that.
What some PR expert he hires says on his behalf is not so severely distinguishable from what a super pac says on his behalf. Recall when he fired Rick Tyler ? Did he fire Rick Tyler because Rick Tyler said exactly what Cruz wanted him to say, but he wanted to wash the mud off his own hands ?
Or what ?
Though it makes for good drama and colorful debate, the point is moot. Neither will see a day serving as P.O.T.U.S.
Popcorn anyone?
In the latest, after someone posts a racy photo shoot of Trump's wife (a real photo shoot the babe did once) in a support ad for Cruz, Trump comes out and tweets an unflattering pic of Cruz's wife, next to one of those fakey glamour shots of the Trump wife (just a head shot).
Cruz is mad, points his finger, and tells Trump not to mess with his wife, Heidi. Cruz further says that the reason Trump has a problem with Meagan Kelly of Fox is that Trump doesn't like strong women and feels threatened by them.
Point: Cruz. Trump lost this.
Attacking the opponent's family is off base. Way off base. Trump sank to a new low. And, as in the past, it centers around WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE. To Trump, there is simply nothing else important about women.
Point: Let's give Cruz two points. He comes out ahead because of how pitiful Trump acted.
Hawkeye10 said:Trump has the much much better wife, he won.
So.... none of those are a candidate approving or disapproving an ad in Utah.
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