Trump to deploy National Guard in response to Los Angeles immigration protests

[TobyOne]

People rioting while flying the flags of another country is a big problemo. The city won't support the legal activities of federal officers so other resources need to be used. If things escalate, there will be blood on the incompetent hands of Glass and Newsome.

 

[ColdHardTruth]

Liberals should go after ALL violent protesters with the same zeal they went after Jan 6 protesters.

Would you suggest this has happened or is happening?

Many of those "protestors" went to jail. Those "protestors" were not attempting a coup as the MAGA terrorists were.

 

[dobieg]

Yeah, and my evidence for these arguments is uncontested. The Trump campaign had direct contact with Russian intelligence.

Trump Jr, the steaming pile of coked-up Trash that he is, had a meeting with a Russian lawyer who had DIRECT TIES to Russian intelligence.

This is what the FBI was monitoring.

Accept it and move on.

Comical.

A true believer in made up conspiracies you are.

 

[LouC]

Trump to deploy National Guard in response to Los Angeles immigration protests.​

OK

I am of mixed feelings about this whole situation.

I approve of the LEGAL and CONSTITUTIONAL means of our Government addressing and acting upon Illegal Immigrants entering and or entered into our Nation and I approve of the LEGAL and CONSTITUTIONAL means of our Government to apprehend and detain and or deport Illegals found in our Nation.

Further I approve of the LEGAL and CONSTITUTIONAL and USUAL means of our Government to deploy National Guard troops into our Nation's cities if requested by a State's Governor to address civil disorder and or disaster.

However, I strongly feel President Donald Trump is not following LEGAL, CONSTITUTIONAL, and USUAL protocols of our Government in deploying these National Guard troops to Los Angeles.

I strongly pray this move by President Donald Trump does not escalate and or lead to even more violence and or the abridging of legal and Constitutional protest rights of the legal protestors!

I can't help but have a feeling that our President is seeing this as an opportunity to stomp on the majority of peaceful protestors because of the actions of a few folk with criminal intent.

President Trump's past actions with protests and his angry rhetoric against California and Californian's and against protestors gives me great pause

 

[Lord Tammerlain]

They are not going to fire on civilians.

Some will

 

[JMB1911A1]

Says the right-wing.

Fleeing violence does not make one a criminal.

Breaking immigration law does make one a criminal.

 

[dobieg]

Many of those "protestors" went to jail. Those "protestors" were not attempting a coup as the MAGA terrorists were.

lol

No they didn't.

The vast majority of citations and charges against George Floyd protesters were ultimately dropped, dismissed or otherwise not filed, according to a Guardian analysis of law enforcement records and media reports in a dozen jurisdictions around the nation.

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Most charges against George Floyd protesters dropped, analysis shows

Some prosecutors and law enforcement observers say departments carried out mass arrests as crowd control tactic

www.theguardian.com

 

[BirdinHand]

Hat about the four that I posted ?

And any one who breaks immigration law is a criminal.

You don’t care about criminality - the guy in the Oval Office that you support is a convicted felon

 

[JMB1911A1]

I'm not doing what-about I simply saying that the hypocrisy level on the right is right off the charts. You either beleive that violence against law enforcement and rioting is wrong ..or you dont. It cant be right sometimes and wrong others. I think you know that which is why you deflect from the obvious.

Whataboutism 101. Where were you condemning the George Floyd Summer of Love? Or the current violence in LA?

 

[ColdHardTruth]

Comical.

A true believer in made up conspiracies you are.

Except, nothing I said was made up.

You need to turn the Faux off and wake up.

The investigation “identified numerous links between the Russian government and the Trump Campaign” and established that the Trump Campaign “showed interest in WikiLeaks's releases of documents and welcomed their potential to damage candidate Clinton”​

• In 2015 and 2016, Michael Cohen pursued a hotel/residence project in Moscow on behalf of Trump while he was campaigning for President.[5] Then-candidate Trump personally signed a letter of intent.
• Senior members of the Trump campaign, including Paul Manafort, Donald Trump, Jr., and Jared Kushner took a June 9, 2016, meeting with Russian nationals at Trump Tower, New York, after outreach from an intermediary informed Trump, Jr., that the Russians had derogatory information on Clinton that was “part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.”[6]
• Beginning in June 2016, a Trump associate “forecast to senior [Trump] Campaign officials that WikiLeaks would release information damaging to candidate Clinton.”[7] A section of the Report that remains heavily redacted suggests that Roger Stone was this associate and that he had significant contacts with the campaign about Wikileaks.[8]
• The Report described multiple occasions where Trump associates lied to investigators about Trump associate contacts with Russia. Trump associates George Papadopoulos, Rick Gates, Michael Flynn, and Michael Cohen all admitted that they made false statements to federal investigators or to Congress about their contacts. In addition, Roger Stone faces trial this fall for obstruction of justice, five counts of making false statements, and one count of witness tampering.
• The Report contains no evidence that any Trump campaign official reported their contacts with Russia or WikiLeaks to U.S. law enforcement authorities during the campaign or presidential transition, despite public reports on Russian hacking starting in June 2016 and candidate Trump’s August 2016 intelligence briefing warning him that Russia was seeking to interfere in the election.
• The Report raised questions about why Trump associates and then-candidate Trump repeatedly asserted Trump had no connections to Russia.[9]

Key Findings of the Mueller Report | ACS

www.acslaw.org

Stop lying.

 

[What if...?]

Labels and name calling are all your ilk have left and it won't work.

There's no more gate keeping. There's no national news anchors feeding the public hand selected narratives snd tiny morsels of information.

You go onto X.com. You find the trending terms and watch the actual reality come in through thousands of people taking video on the location. You see the lack of love for the United States. You see the lawlessness.

The straw that had to break the camel's back was Kyle Rittenhouse. The national media narrative was assault rifles bought over a state border to hunt down and kill black people.

The reality, shown from stitched together media from dozens of sources showed pure and true self defense.

That's all ICE for the United States. It is self defense and the attempts of you and others to use the same tired tropes to deny reality won't work.

This is funny to me.

The Founders would absolutely not approve of masked unidentifiable thugs on the streets of America. Full stop.

The Constitution I am amazingly thorough anti-tyranny system. They literally went down the list of ways tyrants attained and maintained their tyrannies and forbade them to our government.

Masked thugs with no badges rounding people up is an element of the rise of every modern tyranny.

 

[JMB1911A1]

You don’t care about criminality - the guy in the Oval Office that you support is a convicted felon

Whataboutism is an argumentative tactic where a person or group responds to an accusation or difficult question by deflection. Instead of addressing the point made, they counter it with “but what about X?”.

Whataboutism: Behind the Deflecting Tactic in Arguments | FlaglerLive

Whataboutism is an argumentative tactic where a person or group responds to an accusation or difficult question by deflection. Instead of addressing the point made, they counter it with “but what about X?”

flaglerlive.com

 

[ColdHardTruth]

lol

No they didn't.

Yes, they did.

Columbia Black Lives Matter rioter sentenced to 13 months in federal prison

Read more at: https://www.thestate.com/news/local/crime/article287972330.html#storylink=cpy

Stop lying.

 

[Callen]

Many of those "protestors" went to jail. Those "protestors" were not attempting a coup as the MAGA terrorists were.

The other thing is, assuming he ever though beyond the preferred native put forth by RW media, the charges in the BLM riots were all at a State level so very fractured with different timings, outcomes, circumstances and laws. The Jan 6th riots were federal crimes so there was much more of a focus.

 

[dobieg]

Whataboutism 101. Where were you condemning the George Floyd Summer of Love? Or the current violence in LA?

They gave a short and simple token response somewhere I recall.

 

[Callen]

Where were you condemning the George Floyd Summer of Love? Or the current violence in LA?

I was very vocal on the BLM riots . Do your damn homework.

 

[JMB1911A1]

I was very vocal on the BLM riots . Do your damn homework.

Good for you. I hope you will apply the same standard to the LA ICE riots.

 

[beancounter]

It was always obvious there would be a few holdovers brainwashed to still believe the lies no matter how thoroughly debunked.

Sure, ok.

Post links to every source that proves that it has "all" been debunked.

Faux News and Right-wing loony "sources" don't qualify.

 

[What if...?]

Whataboutism 101. Where were you condemning the George Floyd Summer of Love? Or the current violence in LA?

Well, they aren’t in response to the same thing.

Jan 6 was idiots acting out in response to being told the election was stolen, absent any actual evidence. Just “evidence”. Hearsay and innuendo.

The Floyd riots, which were at a small percentage of the protests but your media convinced you it was all of them. And they were spoken out against. You just weren’t told, as that reduces their effectiveness as a trope going forward. Police brutality exists. And it should be protested by a free people. They are our employees, not our masters.

I know you can’t see that. Your conditioning doesn’t allow you to. Butt saying it to you makes you uncomfortable, doesn’t it? You need to deny it, don’t you?

 

[multivita-man]

As I've pointed out in scrolling the Potus/C'nC has no authority either statutorily or in the Constitution for a federal martial law. The Potus has no martial law authority. Any governor can declare martial law, but the Potus has zero authority and no power to declare a federal martial law. The Founders were absolutely clear about placing this limitation on the powers of the office.

Technically correct, but the President can invoke the Insurrection Act and use federal troops to effectuate federal law. The circumstances of when this crosses the line and becomes an unconstitutional abuse of power isn't clear.

 

[iliveonramen]

Liberals should go after ALL violent protesters with the same zeal they went after Jan 6 protesters.

Would you suggest this has happened or is happening?

If you're violent then you go to jail. Do you have instances where that's not happening? Two seconds of Googling shows a lot of protestors were arrested. Another shows that 51% of BLM protests were met with violence by police forces.

If Jan 6th protestors were treated like a BLM protest, they would have been shot by rubber bullets and tear gassed the minute they tried to push past barricades. There would have been a much larger police force at the capital and there would have been a lot less leniency given. If you believe otherwise, you really are living in a completely different reality.

 

[JMB1911A1]

Well, they aren’t in response to the same thing.

Jan 6 was idiots acting out in response to being told the election was stolen, absent any actual evidence. Just “evidence”. Hearsay and innuendo.

The Floyd riots, which were at a small percentage of the protests

2000 police injured.
20+ people killed
$2 BILLION in damage.

but your media convinced you it was all of them. And they were spoken out against. You just weren’t told, as that reduces their effectiveness as a trope going forward. Police brutality exists. And it should be protested by a free people. They are our employees, not our masters.

I know you can’t see that. Your conditioning doesn’t allow you to. Butt saying it to you makes you uncomfortable, doesn’t it? You need to deny it, don’t you?

 

[ColdHardTruth]

Technically correct, but the President can invoke the Insurrection Act and use federal troops to effectuate federal law. The circumstances of when this crosses the line and becomes an unconstitutional abuse of power isn't clear.

Actually, under the Posse comitatus act, NO, he cannot. The NG can be deployed, federal troops cannot.

 

[dobieg]

Yes, they did.

Columbia Black Lives Matter rioter sentenced to 13 months in federal prison

Read more at: https://www.thestate.com/news/local/crime/article287972330.html#storylink=cpy

Stop lying.

Except, nothing I said was made up.

You need to turn the Faux off and wake up.

The investigation “identified numerous links between the Russian government and the Trump Campaign” and established that the Trump Campaign “showed interest in WikiLeaks's releases of documents and welcomed their potential to damage candidate Clinton”​

• In 2015 and 2016, Michael Cohen pursued a hotel/residence project in Moscow on behalf of Trump while he was campaigning for President.[5] Then-candidate Trump personally signed a letter of intent.
• Senior members of the Trump campaign, including Paul Manafort, Donald Trump, Jr., and Jared Kushner took a June 9, 2016, meeting with Russian nationals at Trump Tower, New York, after outreach from an intermediary informed Trump, Jr., that the Russians had derogatory information on Clinton that was “part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.”[6]
• Beginning in June 2016, a Trump associate “forecast to senior [Trump] Campaign officials that WikiLeaks would release information damaging to candidate Clinton.”[7] A section of the Report that remains heavily redacted suggests that Roger Stone was this associate and that he had significant contacts with the campaign about Wikileaks.[8]
• The Report described multiple occasions where Trump associates lied to investigators about Trump associate contacts with Russia. Trump associates George Papadopoulos, Rick Gates, Michael Flynn, and Michael Cohen all admitted that they made false statements to federal investigators or to Congress about their contacts. In addition, Roger Stone faces trial this fall for obstruction of justice, five counts of making false statements, and one count of witness tampering.
• The Report contains no evidence that any Trump campaign official reported their contacts with Russia or WikiLeaks to U.S. law enforcement authorities during the campaign or presidential transition, despite public reports on Russian hacking starting in June 2016 and candidate Trump’s August 2016 intelligence briefing warning him that Russia was seeking to interfere in the election.
• The Report raised questions about why Trump associates and then-candidate Trump repeatedly asserted Trump had no connections to Russia.[9]

Key Findings of the Mueller Report | ACS

www.acslaw.org

Stop lying.

Give it up. It was all made up BS started by the Clinton campaign who fed paid for opposition research to the FBI who then used FBI leaked media stories as further justification to investigate their made up case.


Apparently 99% of the world has come to this conclusion and the only holdouts are a few tinfoil hat wearing dudes who can't let it go.

 

[dobieg]

2000 police injured.
20+ people killed
$2 BILLION in damage.

They always ignore the numbers.

Just watch.