Trump to deploy National Guard in response to Los Angeles immigration protests

[dobieg]

Not true. I have been very clear in my position on protests/ riots. Protesting, including minor civil disobedience, is fine but there is never, ever, ever an excuse for violence, destruction of property or harm to officers never, not ever . I am unequivocal about that. On the other hand I never hear the right denounce the violent attackers on Jan 6th. Much less their President who at a minimum allowed it to happen. I am NOT the hypocrite here.

Do you think the riots on Jan 6th were less violent that this? Do you think the NG should have been called in to quell the riots on the 6th? Do you think the harming of those police officers were no big deal? My disgust here is with Trump who for some reason perhaps you can explain to me thinks these events in LA are more egregious than an overt and violent attack on your Capitol?

Oh. Did you make sure to give a qualifying token response to the arson, looting and violence all over the country during the summer long BLM protests before completely ignoring it?


As for your dishonest comment that you never hear the right denounce the violence of Jan 6, I recall at least a dozen or more posters here making the same half hearted denouncements as you and other liberals made and are making during the BLM and current protests.

 

[MTAtech]

So I understand that at this stage reality is incoherent to you and most Democrats. You're still the folks thinking the Hunter laptop was fake, that Joe was sharp.

Let me break it down simple for you.

Democrats propose utopia.
Democrats deliver hell on Earth.

That "disconnect" isn't voters acting against their own interests, or Trump lying or problems with "messaging". It's just the reality. Proposing is cheap. Delivering is hard.

Democrats don't deliver.

In other words, you cannot address what I said, namely:

Your posts are so incoherent that it's difficult to reply. However...
If Democrats need "them" to do work cheaply, why is it that Democrats are the only ones who ever propose raising the minimum wage and Republicans oppose it every time? Why is it that Democrats support labor unions and Republicans favor right-to-work? Why is it that Republicans continue effort to erode US child labor rules?

So, instead you attempt to chance the subject.

 

[trumptman]

Do you wear your red hat when you go out in public on a regular basis? Do you fly a Trump flag at your house? How about a bumper sticker on your car?

If not, I suggest you do so.

Announce it loudly and proudly to everyone around you just how devoted you are to this administration.

So basically just to make it clear I'm a squatter in your mind. I'm living there for free and not paying you rent.

 

[ColdHardTruth]

Here are some of the folks that the protestors are supporting.

Rolando Veneracion-Enriquez, a national of the Philippines who has prior convictions for sexual penetration with a foreign object, assault with intent to commit rape, and burglary, all in California.

ARMANDO ORDAZ, a Mexican national & known gang member with a convictions for sexual battery, receiving stolen property, and theft in Los Angeles.

VICTOR MENDOZA-AGUILAR, a previously deported Mexican national & known gang member with convictions for assault with a deadly weapon, and possessing drug paraphernalia.

DELFINO AGUILAR MARTINEZ, a Mexican national with a conviction for assault with a deadly weapon causing great bodily injury in LA.



Going after those guys, I would probably have tactical backup as well.

The protestors are not supporting anybody.

They are there to oppose ICE because ICE has become a racist gestapo led by ignorant MAGA morons.

 

[ColdHardTruth]

Oh. Did you make sure to give a qualifying token response to the arson, looting and violence all over the country during the summer long BLM protests before completely ignoring it?

Nobody is discussing BLM. Please stop trying to hijack the thread.

As for your dishonest comment that you never hear the right denounce the violence of Jan 6, I recall at least a dozen or more posters here making the same half hearted denouncements as you and other liberals made and are making during the BLM and current protests.

Nobody is discussing BLM. Please stop trying to hijack the thread.

 

[dobieg]

They were not protesters.

The FBI classified them as domestic terrorists.

Stop spewing MAGA bullshit.

That same FBI used false information to investigate and wiretap our current president.

I'm not sure why you don't feel even the slightest bit silly posting this nonsense.

 

[Callen]

Here are some of the folks that the protestors are supporting.

Here are the guys Trump protected and pardoned

2,286 Proud Boys Photos & High Res Pictures - Getty Images

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Proud Boys | Leader, Founder, History, January 6 Attack, & Donald Trump | Britannica

Neofascist white nationalist organization established in the United States in 2016. The group’s members were noted for their misogynistic and anti-Semitic rhetoric, QAnon-related beliefs, their support for U.S. Pres. Donald Trump, and their propensity for street violence.

www.britannica.com

 

[dobieg]

The protestors are not supporting anybody.

They are there to oppose ICE because ICE has become a racist gestapo led by ignorant MAGA morons.

More silly nonsense not meant to be taken seriously.

 

[ColdHardTruth]

That same FBI used false information to investigate and wiretap our current president.

Nope. That is a FAUX lie.

Trump's CAMPAIGN was being monitored because they were dealing with Russian intelligence during an election.

I'm not sure why you don't feel even the slightest bit silly posting this nonsense.

I'm not sure why you continue to post debunked lies and MAGA bullshit.

 

[ColdHardTruth]

More silly nonsense not meant to be taken seriously.

Your denial of the truth does not change the facts.

 

[JMB1911A1]

The protestors are not supporting anybody.

They are there to oppose ICE because ICE has become a racist gestapo led by ignorant MAGA morons.

ICE is detaining known criminals. The protestors are trying to stop that. Ergo, the protestors support the criminals.

 

[dobieg]

Nope. That is a FAUX lie.

Trump's CAMPAIGN was being monitored because they were dealing with Russian intelligence during an election.



I'm not sure why you continue to post debunked lies and MAGA bullshit.

It was always obvious there would be a few holdovers brainwashed to still believe the lies no matter how thoroughly debunked.

 

[ColdHardTruth]

ICE is detaining known criminals. The protestors are trying to stop that. Ergo, the protestors support the criminals.

No, they just don't want the ICE gestapo there.

Not all immigrants are criminals. The right-wing seems to have a difficult time with this concept.

 

[BirdinHand]

So basically just to make it clear I'm a squatter in your mind. I'm living there for free and not paying you rent.

No, I’m sitting at the side of a pool watching my kid play with his friends and swim.

Seeing what passes for cogent reasoning and debate by MAGAs amuses me. Because I find most don’t actually have any depth whatsoever to their thinking and merely parrot what is spoonfed to them.

I do wish, though, that everyone that feels strong support for this Administration and their actions - should willingly display that support in public. Identify themselves clearly and distinctly so the rest of us know exactly where they stand and can stay the f*ck away from MAGAs in our communities.

 

[Sabre]

National Guard is not full-time active duty military personnel, but they can be deployed at any time if need arises. The National Guard is federally funded, but are organized and controlled by state.

 

[JMB1911A1]

Here are the guys Trump protected and pardoned

2,286 Proud Boys Photos & High Res Pictures - Getty Images

Explore Authentic Proud Boys Stock Photos & Images For Your Project Or Campaign. Less Searching, More Finding With Getty Images.

www.gettyimages.ca

Proud Boys | Leader, Founder, History, January 6 Attack, & Donald Trump | Britannica

Neofascist white nationalist organization established in the United States in 2016. The group’s members were noted for their misogynistic and anti-Semitic rhetoric, QAnon-related beliefs, their support for U.S. Pres. Donald Trump, and their propensity for street violence.

www.britannica.com

Let me refer you to one of your fellow Canadians.

Whataboutism is an argumentative tactic where a person or group responds to an accusation or difficult question by deflection. Instead of addressing the point made, they counter it with “but what about X?”.

Whataboutism: Behind the Deflecting Tactic in Arguments | FlaglerLive

Whataboutism is an argumentative tactic where a person or group responds to an accusation or difficult question by deflection. Instead of addressing the point made, they counter it with “but what about X?”

flaglerlive.com

 

[ColdHardTruth]

It was always obvious there would be a few holdovers brainwashed to still believe the lies no matter how thoroughly debunked.

I have posted evidence of this multiple times. I am not the one who is brainwashed.

Read the ****ing Meuller report.

 

[dobieg]

Your denial of the truth does not change the facts.

I will give it to you that at least you're using some different arguments rather than just saying, 'that's bullshit' every post.

 

[JMB1911A1]

No, they just don't want the ICE gestapo there.

Not all immigrants are criminals. The right-wing seems to have a difficult time with this concept.

Hat about the four that I posted ?

And any one who breaks immigration law is a criminal.

 

[iliveonramen]

As for your dishonest comment that you never hear the right denounce the violence of Jan 6, I recall at least a dozen or more posters here making the same half hearted denouncements as you and other liberals made and are making during the BLM and current protests.

So liberals should denounce BLM and current protests? Or did you mean they should denounce violence at these protests? Because your post seems to indicate you believe protesting should be denounced.

How about clarifying that first

 

[dobieg]

I have posted evidence of this multiple times. I am not the one who is brainwashed.

Read the ****ing Meuller report.

lolol

 

[ColdHardTruth]

I will give it to you that at least you're using some different arguments rather than just saying, 'that's bullshit' every post.

Yeah, and my evidence for these arguments is uncontested. The Trump campaign had direct contact with Russian intelligence.

Trump Jr, the steaming pile of coked-up Trash that he is, had a meeting with a Russian lawyer who had DIRECT TIES to Russian intelligence.

This is what the FBI was monitoring.

Accept it and move on.

 

[dobieg]

So liberals should denounce BLM and current protests? Or did you mean they should denounce violence at these protests? Because your post seems to indicate you believe protesting should be denounced.

How about clarifying that first

Liberals should go after ALL violent protesters with the same zeal they went after Jan 6 protesters.

Would you suggest this has happened or is happening?

 

[ColdHardTruth]

Hat about the four that I posted ?

And any one who breaks immigration law is a criminal.

Says the right-wing.

Fleeing violence does not make one a criminal.

 

[Callen]

Let me refer you to one of your fellow Canadians.

I'm not doing what-about I simply saying that the hypocrisy level on the right is right off the charts. You either beleive that violence against law enforcement and rioting is wrong ..or you dont. It cant be right sometimes and wrong others. I think you know that which is why you deflect from the obvious.