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Trump to deploy National Guard in response to Los Angeles immigration protests

No, the point is you and every other leftist supports bringing down the hammer on protests by your political opposition yet turns a blind eye to violent protests from your own side.

It's apparent to everyone but liberals.
January 6 was not a protest.

Stop telling lies.
 
It's about time we had strong leadership that doesn't allow rioters and looters to take over our streets while incompetent liberal leaders sit idly by with their heads up their ass not willing to do a damn thing.
lol

gullible 🤡 :ROFLMAO:
 
There's a flip side to that. All the Democrat politicians and left leaning media who were hysterically lamenting about the Jan 6 protests making comparisons to Pearl Harbor and the Civil War and claiming it was an insurrection and attempt to over throw our government now and during the Goerge Floyd protests sit idly by and even lend their support to rioters and looters.

It would seem the only time the Left cares about law and order when it comes to violent protests are when they are carried out by their political opposition.
MAGA Boilerplate since 2020 if not sooner than.

It's the MagaMerican thing to say something a hundred times so people can become familiar with it and accept it as familiar and true when it is nothing except MAGA Boilerplate.

I've read that same same post a thousand times since 2020 yet all it is is MAGA Say Anything Boilerplate.
 
They will obey their chain of command. It's as simple as that. This idea that soldiers will refuse orders because they'll have some Eureka moment that what they're doing is somehow unconstitutional is a fantasy.

Over the years, I've heard/read some, including retired and active duty military, say things like they won't follow unconstitutional or illegal orders, but I think that's being naive to how people behave in the context of institutions and their power dynamics. Humans are social creatures. We're group conformists by nature, and since we moved out of the prairies and forests and into cities over these last 10,000 or so years, we've adapted in ways that incline us to operate within the power frameworks that form the basis of civilization.

In short, we're engineered to obey authority. I mean, sure, there are limits. It was soldiers who risked court martial to speak out against the massacres of Mai Lai and there were similar episodes in more recent conflicts, but generally speaking, we're creatures that do what the group does, and we give authority a lot of slack in many cases until we know that something is just way out of bounds.

Trump will say that he wants those protesters neutralized so that ICE can do its job. The Guard will impose a curfew if that doesn't happen. Hopefully, it doesn't go much beyond that, but it could.
It does happen.

Check out the “Refuseniks” Israeli soldiers that refused to participate in the practice of selecting Palestinian homes, at dinner time, kicking the doors in and holding the families at gunpoint while they tore their home apart searching for…something.

This is the kind of thing a refer to as “provocation for effect”.
 
Just stupidly post a reasonable course of action. Which doesn't apply to Trump.
??? Can you translate that into English, please? Did spellcheck insert "stupidly" for another, relevant, word?
 
No, but there is an opportunity to cause escalation and declare Martial Law.
It’s a step in the ”how to establish a tyranny” playbook.

And that’s why we have to move carefully now.
 
They are military, not police.. hence untrained. Then again, most US police is untrained.. so there is that.
I beieve that National Guard are trained in crowd control.
 
I beieve that National Guard are trained in crowd control.
Not really. Some are, most are not. One of my jobs, once upon a time, was assisting in that training during contingency operations. The National Guard are mostly combat troops. Crowd control is not a primary function.
 
......but screw those Capitol police who were attacked and injured as they served to protect the Capitol and those inside. Screw them lets' pardon the attackers. ...friggin' disgusting.


Once again you show the Left only cares about police injured during a Right wing protest while showing zero interests in the multiples of officers injured during Left leaning protests.

More than 2,000 law enforcement officers were injured in the first weeks of protests over the summer following the police killing of George Floyd, according to a report released in October.

 
MAGA Boilerplate since 2020 if not sooner than.

It's the MagaMerican thing to say something a hundred times so people can become familiar with it and accept it as familiar and true when it is nothing except MAGA Boilerplate.

I've read that same same post a thousand times since 2020 yet all it is is MAGA Say Anything Boilerplate.


Uh huh. Sort of like the Left trying to ingrain in people that the Jan 6 protest was an insurrection and attempt to overthrow our government?

How many times have we read that one?
 
Stop pretending our protests are insurrections while yours are peaceful ones.
It wasn't a protest. It was an insurrection.

Lying about it doesn't change it.

January 6 U.S. Capitol attack, storming of the United States Capitol on January 6, 2021, by a mob of supporters of Republican Pres. Donald J. Trump. The attack disrupted a joint session of Congress convened to certify the results of the presidential election of 2020, which Trump had lost to his Democratic opponent, Joe Biden. Because its object was to prevent a legitimate president-elect from assuming office, the attack was widely regarded as an insurrection or attempted coup d’état. The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and other law-enforcement agencies also considered it an act of domestic terrorism. For having given a speech in which he rallied supporters to storm the Capitol in a violent attack that threatened the certification of Biden’s victory, Trump was impeached by the Democratic-led House of Representatives for “incitement of insurrection” (he was subsequently acquitted by the Senate).


https://www.splcenter.org/resources/stories/road-jan-6-year-extremist-mobilization/


Have the guts to call it what is is.
 
Not really. Some are, most are not. One of my jobs, once upon a time, was assisting in that training during contingency operations. The National Guard are mostly combat troops. Crowd control is not a primary function.
Oh sure. I'm just saying that it's likely that the National Guard in most states, or at least states with large pops, have some units trained in crowd control. Not every guardsman, obviously. Bet it's more than in the Marines, though!
 
Once again you show the Left only cares about police injured during a Right wing protest while showing zero interests in the multiples of officers injured during Left leaning protests.




Millions were involved in those protests. The vast majority if them were peaceful. The police handled them poorly.

An extensive list if the police brutality:

 
Once again you show the Left only cares about police injured during a Right wing protest while showing zero interests in the multiples of officers injured during Left leaning protests.
Was there some mass pardon of those protestors in the Floyd riots who attacked police and went to jail that I missed?
 
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