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Trump to deploy National Guard in response to Los Angeles immigration protests

Tangmo said:
The USA armed forces will not open fire using military weapons against unarmed civilian Americans.
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Did you forget how many guns our citizens own?
 
“The Trump Administration has a zero tolerance policy for noncriminal behavior. Criminal behavior is the exclusive province of the President." What Karoline Leavitt meant.
 
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You simply cannot discount the possibility that's its right wing agitators. Its just a documented fact that they infiltrated the BLM protests to cause violence and undermine support for the innocent victims of police violence. this is a typical fascist tactic.

MINNEAPOLIS – A Texas man pleaded guilty today to a federal riot charge in connection to the 2020 civil unrest, announced Acting U.S. Attorney W. Anders Folk.

According to court documents, Ivan Hunter, 24, admitted to traveling from San Antonio, Texas to Minneapolis with the intent to participate in a riot. Hunter is a self-described member of the Boogaloo Bois, a loosely connected group of individuals who espouse violent anti-government sentiments. The term “Boogaloo” itself references an impending second civil war in the United States and is associated with violent uprisings against the government.

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Self-Described Member of “Boogaloo Bois” Pleads Guilty to Riot

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IT'S NEVER TOO LATE TO FIGHT FASCISM.
 
CaughtInThe said:
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There's a flip side to that. All the Democrat politicians and left leaning media who were hysterically lamenting about the Jan 6 protests making comparisons to Pearl Harbor and the Civil War and claiming it was an insurrection and attempt to over throw our government now and during the Goerge Floyd protests sit idly by and even lend their support to rioters and looters.

It would seem the only time the Left cares about law and order when it comes to violent protests are when they are carried out by their political opposition.
 
Vern said:
You simply cannot discount the possibility that's its right wing agitators. Its just a documented fact that they infiltrated the BLM protests to cause violence and undermine support for the innocent victims of police violence. this is a typical fascist tactic.

MINNEAPOLIS – A Texas man pleaded guilty today to a federal riot charge in connection to the 2020 civil unrest, announced Acting U.S. Attorney W. Anders Folk.

According to court documents, Ivan Hunter, 24, admitted to traveling from San Antonio, Texas to Minneapolis with the intent to participate in a riot. Hunter is a self-described member of the Boogaloo Bois, a loosely connected group of individuals who espouse violent anti-government sentiments. The term “Boogaloo” itself references an impending second civil war in the United States and is associated with violent uprisings against the government.

www.justice.gov

Self-Described Member of “Boogaloo Bois” Pleads Guilty to Riot

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Exactly! Just like how Antifa infiltrated the Jan 6 protests!





I swear......some people.
 
dobieg said:
There's a flip side to that. All the Democrat politicians and left leaning media who were hysterically lamenting about the Jan 6 protests making comparisons to Pearl Harbor and the Civil War and claiming it was an insurrection and attempt to over throw our government now and during the Goerge Floyd protests sit idly by and even lend their support to rioters and looters.

It would seem the only time the Left cares about law and order when it comes to violent protests are when they are carried out by their political opposition.
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Trump called out the NG on BLM protesters in Lafayette Sq and again now in LA but he allowed his supporters to storm the Capitol unimpeded , hurt police and endanger the lives of those inside. That is the point. Not the riots and protest themselves but what Trump will stop with force and what he will allow to happen. Think about it....
 
pedex said:
He tried . Pelosi stopped him. According to Congressional testimony.
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Trump claimed he ordered the NG days before, it was a lie according to the DoD.

I realize the Trump narrative is what you cling to, it does not stand up to scrutiny.
 
Tangmo said:
The USA armed forces will not open fire using military weapons against unarmed civilian Americans.
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Argent said:
Did you forget how many guns our citizens own?
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My post said "unarmed" as you so boldly put in bold. Then your post referenced armed citizens that is the opposite of what I posted.

The organized MagaMerican armed groups such as the Oath Keeper nutjobs and the Proud Boys lunar travelers have quit on the idea of an armed insurrection because they know the armed forces will vaporize each one of 'em in ten minutes or less. Simultaneously besides.

My reference is to unarmed Americans who are the libruls because they pass out in a cold faint at the sight of an AR-15 and other firearms. Libruls clutch their pearls and down they go white as a ghost. Unarmed liberals are easy pickins for the boogeyman when he comes after all the immigrants are expelled. Liberals would rather be rounded up and expelled to some shithole abroad than fight. That way they don't have to hurt anybody except themselves which is one of the few things liberals enjoy doing.
 
Callen said:
Trump called out the NG on BLM protesters in Lafayette Sq and again now in LA but he allowed his supporters to storm the Capitol unimpeded , hurt police and endanger the lives of those inside. That is the point. Not the riots and protest themselves but what Trump will stop with force and what he will allow to happen. Think about it....
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No, the point is you and every other leftist supports bringing down the hammer on protests by your political opposition yet turns a blind eye to violent protests from your own side.

It's apparent to everyone but liberals.
 
If Trump is the ultimate arbiter of law and order shouldn't he be out on the streets himself in the style of Judge Dredd?

He can then shout "I am the law!!!!!!!!" as much as he likes.
 
yankintx said:
Trump claimed he ordered the NG days before, it was a lie according to the DoD.

I realize the Trump narrative is what you cling to, it does not stand up to scrutiny.
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*shrug*


They're there now and ready to crack some skulls of violent thugs and bring peace and order back to our streets.


A unit citation should be in order for the brave men and women who serve in our forces and who fight against violent mobs made up of a good many foreign nationals from the looks of it. A WH ceromony would be a nice touch.
 
gbg3 said:
This is good.

We have the beginnings of the Summer of Love 2025 in LA. It is not okay to attack ICE officers doing their job, vandalize property, attempt to breach federal buildings, slash tires and burn cars. This needs to be stopped immediately.

Dems choose some pretty strange battles to fight. Causing riots to try to prevent deportations of illegals and criminals - is one of those very strange battles to undertake.
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What

It is not okay to breach federal buildings?

Since when
 
pedex said:
He tried . Pelosi stopped him. According to Congressional testimony.
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No you have that totally wrong. There was no such congressional testimony and I'm going to go further and say you never watched it or read the transcripts.

That aside , the issue is that Trump had the authority, opportunity and power to call out the Guard as the Capitol was under attack and Pelosi was trapped inside along with all other elected officials but he sat and watched for three hours and chose to do nothing. the Capitol under attack and he does nothing.....
 
dobieg said:
A unit citation should be in order for the brave men and women who serve in our forces and who fight against violent mobs made up of a good many foreign nationals from the looks of it. A WH ceromony would be a nice touch.
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......but screw those Capitol police who were attacked and injured as they served to protect the Capitol and those inside. Screw them lets' pardon the attackers. ...friggin' disgusting.
 
Vern said:
You simply cannot discount the possibility that's its right wing agitators. Its just a documented fact that they infiltrated the BLM protests to cause violence and undermine support for the innocent victims of police violence. this is a typical fascist tactic.

MINNEAPOLIS – A Texas man pleaded guilty today to a federal riot charge in connection to the 2020 civil unrest, announced Acting U.S. Attorney W. Anders Folk.

According to court documents, Ivan Hunter, 24, admitted to traveling from San Antonio, Texas to Minneapolis with the intent to participate in a riot. Hunter is a self-described member of the Boogaloo Bois, a loosely connected group of individuals who espouse violent anti-government sentiments. The term “Boogaloo” itself references an impending second civil war in the United States and is associated with violent uprisings against the government.

www.justice.gov

Self-Described Member of “Boogaloo Bois” Pleads Guilty to Riot

www.justice.gov www.justice.gov
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The Boogaloo Bois are Nazi assholes who belong in a cell until they die.

The right-wing is ABSOLUTELY responsible.
 
dobieg said:
No, the point is you and every other leftist supports bringing down the hammer on protests by your political opposition yet turns a blind eye to violent protests from your own side.
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Oh the irony.....
 
HumblePi said:
Los Angeles has thousands of immigrant day-workers that keep the state of California one of the largest economies in the country, and in some cases in the world. My son had a landscaping business in L.A. and when he had a big contract, he went right to Home Depot to quickly hire immigrants waiting for a day job. This is where the protests began after seven or more immigrants at Home Depot were taken by ICE. Does anyone know if these men had committed any crime before they were kidnapped? Did they all receive a hearing in front of a judge before they were snatched? These immigrants are paying taxes, and they are not eligible for social benefits such as healthcare, Medicaid or food stamps and if anyone tells you they are, they're a liar. They are more law-abiding than many citizens because they don't want to lose their jobs, their homes and their families by committing any crimes and being deported.
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For Ice to remove anybody they need a court order.
 
The very best thing the protesters could do at this point is disappear.

Leave all those soldiers standing their with their dicks in their hands.

It’s not time for violence. Yet.

It’s time for exposure and mockery.

They want us to fight them so they can titillate their voters with beatings, killings and arrests.

It’s time for theater. Flowers in gun barrels kind of stuff Performance art. Dance routines. Funny songs. “It’s fun to be in the ICE here today. You can get your beat on, you can make folks afraid, you can enjoy your impunity”

If you’re just doing that opening fire on you will never fly.

Don’t give them the excuse.

Leave them standing there looking foolish.

This is just the beginning. There is a plan. Avoid your first impulse. That’s what they designed the plan around. Do literally anything else.
 
NWRatCon said:
The plan is to escalate, to provoke, to be as confrontational as possible, to excuse the coming violence. Trump and his minions are already dividing law enforcement between loyalists and law abiders. They'll attempt the same with the military. This order was based on what Trump literally claims is "rebellion". Any resistance to unlawful ICE activity is now deemed "rebellion", including protest. This is full-blown fascism - not "semi-authoritarianism".

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Department of Defense Security for the Protection of Department of Homeland Security Functions

MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
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"Numerous incidents of violence and disorder have recently occurred and threaten to continue in response to the enforcement of Federal law by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and other United States Government personnel who are performing Federal functions and supporting the faithful execution of Federal immigration laws. In addition, violent protests threaten the security of and significant damage to Federal immigration detention facilities and other Federal property. To the extent that protests or acts of violence directly inhibit the execution of the laws, they constitute a form of rebellion against the authority of the Government of the United States.

In light of these incidents and credible threats of continued violence, by the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, I hereby call into Federal service members and units of the National Guard under 10 U.S.C. 12406 to temporarily protect ICE and other United States Government personnel who are performing Federal functions, including the enforcement of Federal law, and to protect Federal property, at locations where protests against these functions are occurring or are likely to occur based on current threat assessments and planned operations."

Those unwilling to recognize history are willing to reenact it.
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I don't doubt anything you wrote. Just stupidly post a reasonable course of action. Which doesn't apply to Trump.
 
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