Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) had credible reasons to believe he could help negotiate some kind of resolution to the ongoing government shutdown. Not only does the GOP senator enjoy close ties to Donald Trump, he’s also played a key role within his party on immigration policy, having helped craft the bipartisan “Gang of Eight” bill.
With this in mind, when there was scuttlebutt on Capitol Hill this week about Graham working behind the scenes on a possible deal, it was at least worth watching. Yesterday, however, those efforts collapsed – because of White House opposition. Politico reported:
President Donald Trump has rejected a plan proposed by a bloc of Senate Republicans who had hoped to break an impasse over the government shutdown, leaving Congress and the White House with little obvious way out of the extended battle over Trump’s border wall.
On the 20th day of the shutdown, the GOP group tried to jump start bipartisan talks before Trump declares a national emergency to get his wall. But the president rejected their idea to allow congressional committees to sort out his border wall request while the government reopened, deeming the idea likely to leave him with nothing to show for the shutdown.
Some of the relevant details of the plan remain elusive, but by all accounts, there was a proposal on the table. Vice President Mike Pence and acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney took it to the president, who balked.
This is not how faithful Democracy works.You aren’t listening. No barrier funding no budget. That doesn’t mean budget in exchange for spending another 20 years talking about the barrier in committee.
So.....what was the deal? Are you sure it was one Democrats would have accepted?
This is not how faithful Democracy works.
Choosing to irresponsibly allow government services to lapse in to order to extort your opposition to change their votes, is not only unacceptable politics that shouldn't be tolerated, it's downright un-american in its morality.
This is not how faithful Democracy works.
Choosing to irresponsibly allow government services to lapse in to order to extort your opposition to change their votes, is not only unacceptable politics that shouldn't be tolerated, it's downright un-american in its morality.
This is not how faithful Democracy works.
Choosing to irresponsibly allow government services to lapse in to order to extort your opposition to change their votes, is not only unacceptable politics that shouldn't be tolerated, it's downright un-american in its morality.
Are you suggesting Trump turned down the deal because he was worried it was too extreme and the Democrats wouldn't have accepted it?
The point it... Trump is such a terrible negotiator and so extreme he can't even work with his own party during a crisis he invented to get something done.
So.....what was the deal? Are you sure it was one Democrats would have accepted?
How about kicking the can down the road for 40 years, where does that line up in your "moral" approach to governance?
Tim-
Extortion isn't "negotiating".
I'm saying that the article you linked to doesn't include any information whatsoever on what the "deal" entailed. It's rather impossible to hold a valid opinion on whether his rejection of the deal was good or bad if there are no details regarding what was up for agreement.
Extortion? How is the President personally benefitting from this shutdown? You do know what the legal definition of extortion is, right?
Tim-
I'm saying that the article you linked to doesn't include any information whatsoever on what the "deal" entailed. It's rather impossible to hold a valid opinion on whether his rejection of the deal was good or bad if there are no details regarding what was up for agreement.
This is not how faithful Democracy works.
Choosing to irresponsibly allow government services to lapse in to order to extort your opposition to change their votes, is not only unacceptable politics that shouldn't be tolerated, it's downright un-american in its morality.
And? Where is information about Trumps wall? I haven't seen anything on that aspect.
Why would any responsible Congressperson just fork over $5.6 billion for a dubious project with no published specifics and parameters?
This is not how faithful Democracy works.
Extortion? How is the President personally benefitting from this shutdown? You do know what the legal definition of extortion is, right?
Tim-
You aren’t listening. No barrier funding no budget. That doesn’t mean budget in exchange for spending another 20 years talking about the barrier in committee.
Extortion: the practice of obtaining something, especially money, through force or threats.
It's the only style of "negotiating" trump knows since was born with a silver ladle up his ass.
And? Where is information about Trumps wall? I haven't seen anything on that aspect.
Why would any responsible Congressperson just fork over $5.6 billion for a dubious project with no published specifics and parameters?
Throwing red meat to his base (that would include you, unfortunately). That is how he's benefiting.
The only thing that matters is that he couldn't strike a deal with his own party. He is obviously the problem here.
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