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As ignorant and generally uninformed as the electorate has become, I may not be in total disagreement with you on this one.
Although I must add, I am certainly no elitist and am generally opposed to flirting with oligarchy as an option.
people have rights, which are unalienable, government have powers which can be changed or taken away.
right to self government
So all individual rights are inalienable? They cant be taken away?
There is a broad line between idealism and realism my friend.....especially in the realm of governance.
the people are represented by the house, the state legislatures are to be represented by the senate, known as a balanced government
are ,,,unalienable/ inalienable actually have two different meanings
Not at all ... the error of their ways was soon seen and their mistake corrected ... with non-property owners non-white men and women allowing our society to become great ... the greatest the world has seen and all those were liberal wise educated ideas while the conservative ideas fell away to the bitter past ... and through these efforts the wars were won ... and through these efforts the country and world become greater ... these are the immutable truths.WRONG.... copying is NOT true wisdom... it is INVENTORS and they win the wars...... and remember what the wise founders said... There never was a democracy that didn't commit suicide..... everyone of them does.... are you blind to history?
are you blind to what made this nation great??? yep it was a wisdom test for voters .. which they called a property test
Not at all ... the error of their ways was soon seen and their mistake corrected ... with non-property owners non-white men and women allowing our society to become great ... the greatest the world has seen and all those were liberal wise educated ideas while the conservative ideas fell away to the bitter past ... and through these efforts the wars were won ... and through these efforts the country and world become greater ... these are the immutable truths.
Yes, that was the original intent. I am aware of that. Thank you for the civics lesson.
The two-party system has somewhat railroaded that whole plan.
Not at all ... the error of their ways was soon seen and their mistake corrected ... with non-property owners non-white men and women allowing our society to become great ... the greatest the world has seen and all those were liberal wise educated ideas while the conservative ideas fell away to the bitter past ... and through these efforts the wars were won ... and through these efforts the country and world become greater ... these are the immutable truths.
You're leaving out the 12th? The most horrendous alteration to the COTUS ever made?yes they have by:
in 1913 they
gave was the 16th, giving government power over the people via taxes
gave us the 17th, took away state power in the senate, so now states can no longer protect themselves from federal usurpation
gave us the federal reserve act, putting our dollar into the hands of a private bank, and removing americans people control over it
Not at all ... the error of their ways was soon seen and their mistake corrected ... with non-property owners non-white men and women allowing our society to become great ... the greatest the world has seen and all those were liberal wise educated ideas while the conservative ideas fell away to the bitter past ... and through these efforts the wars were won ... and through these efforts the country and world become greater ... these are the immutable truths.
Okay, mincing words again. Bottom line....are you implying that there are individual rights that cannot be taken away under our system?
That's not an answer to the question that I asked.the federal government is not supposed to make any laws which violate the right of "we the people," but they can make laws which curtail rights of a person for violating the rights of another or threatening the health and safety of the public
You're leaving out the 12th? The most horrendous alteration to the COTUS ever made?
That's not an answer to the question that I asked.
Finally, something on which we can agree!well i can name a better solution, and that is to return the EC vote for delgates back in the hands of the people, not in the hands of political parties
You are wrong ... my history is correct and accurate ... you need a basic education and a liberal understanding of the world to understand ... this education was always gotten in liberal studies and not through conservative bibles ... that's why there will be no tests and no secession ... these are the immutable truths.Wrong AGAIN ... you need to check history
okay good, now we are getting somewhere. Would you also agree, as an apparent Lockean, that the government only possesses those powers which the people have allowed it to have?are you saying have they taken rights away, yes, the government has violated many rights of people, right of property , right of association, and more.
okay good, now we are getting somewhere. Would you also agree, as an apparent Lockean, that the government only possesses those powers which the people have allowed it to have?
You are wrong ... my history is correct and accurate ... you need a basic education and a liberal understanding of the world to understand ... this education was always gotten in liberal studies and not through conservative bibles ... that's why there will be no tests and no secession ... these are the immutable truths.
of course, iam a strict constitutionalist
all of these improvements lie on the continumn of great liberal ideas that have pushed the country forward to greatness from it's conservative beginnings ... all have overcome great conservative resistance ... as always liberalism trumps conservatism and propels the country and the world forward to new heights of greatness ... these are the immutable truths.soon corrected.... oh how so wrong are you??? women could not even be on juries until the 1950's then that had to filter thru like voting did to bring the changes starting in the 1980's.. wake up and learn some history
okay good, now we are getting somewhere. Would you also agree, as an apparent Lockean, that the government only possesses those powers which the people have allowed it to have?
of course, iam a strict constitutionalist
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