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Trump: 'I did not commit a campaign violation'

veritas1 said:
Trump can give his own money to whomever he wants. It has nothing to do with campaign finance. If it does, then every member of Congress who has used the taxpayer funded slush fund to pay off their hoes, is also guilty. When do we prosecute all of them? This is simply more hypocrisy and lying by the left.
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No he can't, if he does so in an illegal manner, which he did here.

This is simply more laughable, willful ignorance and gleeful cluelessness by the right.
 
veritas1 said:
Trump can give his own money to whomever he wants.
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Trump cannot make payments for the purpose of altering an election. (i.e. paying off women).

Such payments are a felony and explained in the OP.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
No he can't, if he does so in an illegal manner, which he did here.

This is simply more laughable, willful ignorance and gleeful cluelessness by the right.
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No, sorry. John Edwards used actual campaign funds to set up his mistress and a jury couldn't even agree that it was a crime. Trump simply gave his own money. It's more liberal desperation.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Trump cannot make payments for the purpose of altering an election. (i.e. paying off women).

Such payments are a felony and explained in the OP.
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If that is the standard, where are the charges against Congress? Why wasn't John Edwards convicted? Neither Congress nor Edwards used their own money.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Cohen is going to jail for it. Perhaps you should ask him if it's debatable.
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Cohen chose NOT to debate the charge.
As did Pecker.
Should it ever come, Trump most certainly WILL debate it.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Cohen pleaded guilty in August to tax fraud, lying to banks and violating campaign finance laws. The campaign finance charges relate to hush money payments to porn star Stormy Daniels and Playboy model Karen McDougal. Cohen pleaded guilty in November to lying to Congress about an aborted deal to build a Trump Tower in Moscow. That case was lodged by special counsel Robert Mueller.

Don't you think it the least bit odd that Cohen's attorney's would have him plead guilty to [what you say] are only NDA's and not felonies? And why would a judge accept guilty pleas to what essentially are not crimes?

Trump's ex-lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen sentenced to 3 years in prison after admitting 'blind loyalty' led him to cover up president's 'dirty deeds'
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He was offered a deal. The election law stuff was chump change compared to the tax charges he was facing.
 
holbritter said:
I think it's highly debatable whether NDAs are considered campaign finance felonies.
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It's not the NDA's that are the campaign finance problem. It is the way that the finances paying the women off were handled.
 
Trump fails to understand how creative the prosecutors in our abusive justice system have become over the years.....

And as well how much abuse the judges are willing to let them get by with.

And as well how badly SCOTUS SUCKS! now.

SAD
 
code1211 said:
Was this a plea or was it tested in a trial?
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A plea is an admission of wrong doing.

Particularly when there is a 3 year prison sentence attached to it.
 
ecofarm said:
A dozen associates have gone to prison for acts during the campaign and transition.

Obama's head would be on the Crip leader's body.
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I have no idea what the second comment means.

What are the crimes for the dozen associates that have been tried in a court? Confessions under torture are usually just to stop the torture.
 
Mach said:
Looks like a crazy post to me. You got Bark Kavanaugh in there, Strozk, the accused, political elites, and top it off with calling a serious ongoing federal investigation led by Republicans, a "coup".
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You understood. Good!
 
RAMOSS said:
A plea is an admission of wrong doing.

Particularly when there is a 3 year prison sentence attached to it.
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So, then, no trial.
 
code1211 said:
So, then, no trial.
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When there is a guilty plea, no trail is needed, because the person admits their guilt. That is not a hard concept to understand.
 
RAMOSS said:
When there is a guilty plea, no trail is needed, because the person admits their guilt. That is not a hard concept to understand.
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Guilt admitted to what exactly?
 
code1211 said:
Guilt admitted to what exactly?
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You seem to keep on repeating that, even after being told. That seems to be a highly dubious technique for debate.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Cohen is going to jail for it. Perhaps you should ask him if it's debatable.
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He plead guilty.... after pressure from Muller's team. Take the charges or go to jail for a very long time. It's very debatable.

But remember Trump is still president and will be till 2020! All the games to get him out early have failed and that grates
on all the anti-Trump folks everyday. ;)
 
For all you King TangFace fanboys, check this out....







See a pattern?

TBC....
 
Rogue Valley said:
Cohen is going to jail for it. Perhaps you should ask him if it's debatable.
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No, he is not going to jail for that. He was going to jail for other things and pled to that to get a lighter sentence. And the reason they had him plea to that is so that people like you can do what you are doing now.
 
I know it's pointless trying to get through to King TangFaces "base" (brainwashed mindless idiot sheeple of ZERO value to this nation IMO at this point)

But yeah, innocent people don't repeatedly proclaim their innocense. They let the facts speak. Donald Trump is guilty as ****!





:roll:
 
RAMOSS said:
It's not the NDA's that are the campaign finance problem. It is the way that the finances paying the women off were handled.
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And who set those payments up? Cohen did. He was the lawyer, not Trump. The fact that Cohen chose an illegal means to do it does not mean that Trump instructed him to choose illegal means. If you hire a lawyer to resolve an issue you have and he does it through illegal means, is that your fault? Can he come back and say that you instructed him to do it? No. Cohen will have to prove, somehow, that Trump instructed him to use iillegal means to get this done.
 
veritas1 said:
No, sorry. John Edwards used actual campaign funds to set up his mistress and a jury couldn't even agree that it was a crime. Trump simply gave his own money. It's more liberal desperation.
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Yawn. To anyone familiar with them, that's comparing apples to oranges.

IOW, you have no idea what you're talking about. Again.
 
Tanngrisnir said:
Yawn. To anyone familiar with them, that's comparing apples to oranges.

IOW, you have no idea what you're talking about. Again.
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It's not my fault if you can't figure out the difference between using campaign funds and using your own funds. The left is in for yet more disappointment.
 
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