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Trump: 'I did not commit a campaign violation'

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Trump: 'I did not commit a campaign violation'

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1/5/19
President Donald Trump said Saturday he “did not commit a campaign violation” in the run-up to the 2016 election, despite a filing last month from federal prosecutors implicating the president in his former attorney’s campaign finance crimes. Longtime Trump lawyer Michael Cohen was sentenced in December to three years in prison for tax and fraud charges, for lying to Congress and for a pair of campaign finance violations stemming from hush money payments which prosecutors in the Southern District of New York allege Trump directed his ex-fixer to make to a former porn star and the National Enquirer tabloid magazine.

If you are "Individual-1" in the Southern District of New York indictment against Micheal Cohen, and you did indeed direct Mr. Michael Cohen to pay off two women just previous to the 2016 election, then yes, you have committed campaign finance felony crimes. #1 - A $150,000 hush money payment to former Playboy model Karen McDougal in the early fall of 2016 for her silence and #2 - A $130,000 hush money payment to adult film actress Stormy Daniels in October of 2016 for her silence. Because Cohen admitted that the payments were intended to protect Trump's election chances, they are deemed to be "in-kind contributions" to the Trump campaign. They grossly exceed the donation limits ($2,700 per election), a criminal violation, and neither was included in campaign finance reports, another criminal violation. Rather than be treated as civil violations (an obvious and/or unintentional accounting/filing error etc.), these campaign finance violations above are treated as felonies because Cohen admitted that he violated these campaign finance laws "knowingly and willfully." He also stipulated that he was directed to do so by his client "Individual-1" who is understood to be Donald Trump.

Lawyer Micheal Cohen, American Media CEO David Pecker, and perhaps Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg will testify regarding the above campaign finance felony allegations.
 

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Trump: 'I did not commit a campaign violation'

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If you are "Individual-1" in the Southern District of New York indictment against Micheal Cohen, and you did indeed direct Mr. Michael Cohen to pay off two women just previous to the 2016 election, then yes, you have committed campaign finance felony crimes. #1 - A $150,000 hush money payment to former Playboy model Karen McDougal in the early fall of 2016 for her silence and #2 - A $130,000 hush money payment to adult film actress Stormy Daniels in October of 2016 for her silence. Because Cohen admitted that the payments were intended to protect Trump's election chances, they are deemed to be "in-kind contributions" to the Trump campaign. They grossly exceed the donation limits ($2,700 per election), a criminal violation, and neither was included in campaign finance reports, another criminal violation. Rather than be treated as civil violations (an obvious and/or unintentional accounting/filing error etc.), these campaign finance violations above are treated as felonies because Cohen admitted that he violated these campaign finance laws "knowingly and willfully." He also stipulated that he was directed to do so by his client "Individual-1" who is understood to be Donald Trump.

Lawyer Micheal Cohen, American Media CEO David Pecker, and perhaps Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg will testify regarding the above campaign finance felony allegations.

No, that’s not what that means. You have the word of an obvious liar as your only evidence. I mean if you get a jury of 12 Democrats you’ll probably get a conviction, but nothing that will stand appeal now that Trump has seeded enough appeals judges.

Payoffs to mistresses are not in kind contributions. Cohens word cannot be trusted, and in any event the pardon power is absolute
 

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Trump: 'I did not commit a campaign violation'

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If you are "Individual-1" in the Southern District of New York indictment against Micheal Cohen, and you did indeed direct Mr. Michael Cohen to pay off two women just previous to the 2016 election, then yes, you have committed campaign finance felony crimes. #1 - A $150,000 hush money payment to former Playboy model Karen McDougal in the early fall of 2016 for her silence and #2 - A $130,000 hush money payment to adult film actress Stormy Daniels in October of 2016 for her silence. Because Cohen admitted that the payments were intended to protect Trump's election chances, they are deemed to be "in-kind contributions" to the Trump campaign. They grossly exceed the donation limits ($2,700 per election), a criminal violation, and neither was included in campaign finance reports, another criminal violation. Rather than be treated as civil violations (an obvious and/or unintentional accounting/filing error etc.), these campaign finance violations above are treated as felonies because Cohen admitted that he violated these campaign finance laws "knowingly and willfully." He also stipulated that he was directed to do so by his client "Individual-1" who is understood to be Donald Trump.

Lawyer Micheal Cohen, American Media CEO David Pecker, and perhaps Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg will testify regarding the above campaign finance felony allegations.


I think it's highly debatable whether NDAs are considered campaign finance felonies.
 

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I think it's highly debatable whether NDAs are considered campaign finance felonies.

Cohen is going to jail for it. Perhaps you should ask him if it's debatable.
 

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Cohen is going to jail for it. Perhaps you should ask him if it's debatable.

No, he's going to jail for:

Tax fraud
The criminal information supplied by federal prosecutors charges Cohen with evasion of personal income tax from 2012 through 2016.

Making false statements to a financial institution
Prosecutors charged Cohen with making false statements to a financial institution in connection with a credit decision from about February 2015 through about April 2016.

Unlawful corporate contributions
Prosecutors charged Cohen with willfully causing an unlawful corporate contribution from about June 2016 through about October 2016.

Excessive campaign contributions
Prosecutors charged Cohen with making an excessive campaign contribution on Oct. 27, 2016.
 

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Unlawful corporate contributions
Prosecutors charged Cohen with willfully causing an unlawful corporate contribution from about June 2016 through about October 2016.

Excessive campaign contributions
Prosecutors charged Cohen with making an excessive campaign contribution on Oct. 27, 2016.

You read that part, right?
 

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I think it's highly debatable whether NDAs are considered campaign finance felonies.

That's nice. Fortunately, federal judges and juries don't really care about the opinions of random people on the internet with a motive to defend Trump.
 

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No, that’s not what that means. You have the word of an obvious liar as your only evidence. I mean if you get a jury of 12 Democrats you’ll probably get a conviction, but nothing that will stand appeal now that Trump has seeded enough appeals judges.

Payoffs to mistresses are not in kind contributions. Cohens word cannot be trusted, and in any event the pardon power is absolute

Oh look: another armchair expert who doesn't know what the **** he's talking about!
 

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Oh look: another armchair expert who doesn't know what the **** he's talking about!

You don’t need to describe yourself to me...


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Cohen is going to jail for it. Perhaps you should ask him if it's debatable.

Because they put the screws on him with his personal tax delinquency to make him say what they wanted to hear. If Cohen represented Clinton he would never have even been interviewed. In any event Cohen made some bad decisions and decided to cut a deal for sentencing discretion, which involves him telling a story that cannot be backed up with any hard evidence


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Because they put the screws on him with his personal tax delinquency to make him say what they wanted to hear. If Cohen represented Clinton he would never have even been interviewed. In any event Cohen made some bad decisions and decided to cut a deal for sentencing discretion, which involves him telling a story that cannot be backed up with any hard evidence


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You must be privy to “inside” information or you are speaking with the exit ramp.........
 

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Trump: 'I did not commit a campaign violation'

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If you are "Individual-1" in the Southern District of New York indictment against Micheal Cohen, and you did indeed direct Mr. Michael Cohen to pay off two women just previous to the 2016 election, then yes, you have committed campaign finance felony crimes. #1 - A $150,000 hush money payment to former Playboy model Karen McDougal in the early fall of 2016 for her silence and #2 - A $130,000 hush money payment to adult film actress Stormy Daniels in October of 2016 for her silence. Because Cohen admitted that the payments were intended to protect Trump's election chances, they are deemed to be "in-kind contributions" to the Trump campaign. They grossly exceed the donation limits ($2,700 per election), a criminal violation, and neither was included in campaign finance reports, another criminal violation. Rather than be treated as civil violations (an obvious and/or unintentional accounting/filing error etc.), these campaign finance violations above are treated as felonies because Cohen admitted that he violated these campaign finance laws "knowingly and willfully." He also stipulated that he was directed to do so by his client "Individual-1" who is understood to be Donald Trump.

Lawyer Micheal Cohen, American Media CEO David Pecker, and perhaps Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg will testify regarding the above campaign finance felony allegations.

So, a private citizen cannot use his own money to enter into contracts with other private citizens?

Private citizens cannot accept money to enter contracts with other private citizens?

What you say seems odd to me. Of course, I'm not a lawyer, but it seems like this was merely a contractual arrangement made between free citizens for mutual gain.

What's the difference between lawyer and a hooker? The hooker stops screwing you after you're dead.
 

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Cohen is going to jail for it. Perhaps you should ask him if it's debatable.


Trumps soldiers are dropping left and right, and going to jail one after another and the ignorant cultists still claim no laws were broken...:lamo
 

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It is what it means. Talk to any campaign finance lawyer or federal prosecutor.

How about the one who defended that Democrat with the great hair?

If a private citizen uses his own money to do anything, is that a campaign finance violation?
 

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That's nice. Fortunately, federal judges and juries don't really care about the opinions of random people on the internet with a motive to defend Trump.

Was Cohen convicted or did he enter a plea?
 

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Was this a plea or was it tested in a trial?

So now people who plea are innocent. Is that general policy for you (prison policy), or just in this case?
 

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No, he's going to jail for:

Tax fraud
The criminal information supplied by federal prosecutors charges Cohen with evasion of personal income tax from 2012 through 2016.

Making false statements to a financial institution
Prosecutors charged Cohen with making false statements to a financial institution in connection with a credit decision from about February 2015 through about April 2016.

Unlawful corporate contributions
Prosecutors charged Cohen with willfully causing an unlawful corporate contribution from about June 2016 through about October 2016.

Excessive campaign contributions
Prosecutors charged Cohen with making an excessive campaign contribution on Oct. 27, 2016.

Cohen pleaded guilty in August to tax fraud, lying to banks and violating campaign finance laws. The campaign finance charges relate to hush money payments to porn star Stormy Daniels and Playboy model Karen McDougal. Cohen pleaded guilty in November to lying to Congress about an aborted deal to build a Trump Tower in Moscow. That case was lodged by special counsel Robert Mueller.

Don't you think it the least bit odd that Cohen's attorney's would have him plead guilty to [what you say] are only NDA's and not felonies? And why would a judge accept guilty pleas to what essentially are not crimes?

Trump's ex-lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen sentenced to 3 years in prison after admitting 'blind loyalty' led him to cover up president's 'dirty deeds'
 

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You must be privy to “inside” information or you are speaking with the exit ramp.........

Out of curiosity, what is the level of difference between the way the DOJ treated Clinton's attorneys and the way they have treated Trump's Attorneys?

Seems like they are trying to jail Trump's and gave out very liberal pardons to all of Clinton's.

Just saying...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...lls-server-immunity-jonathan-turley/91092182/
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The latest recipient of an immunity deal from the Justice Department is one of Clinton’s closest aides and a figure at the heart of the email scandal, Cheryl Mills.

She joins two other central figures in benefiting from such deals: former State Department staffer, Bryan Pagliano and tech specialist Paul Combetta.

In addition to at least two other immunized witnesses according to the Associated Press, they represent the big three of officials involved in the underlying allegations of Clinton’s potential criminal conduct.

Their collective immunization is baffling.
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Out of curiosity, what is the level of difference between the way the DOJ treated Clinton's attorneys and the way they have treated Trump's Attorneys?

Seems like they are trying to jail Trump's and gave out very liberal pardons to all of Clinton's.

Just saying...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...lls-server-immunity-jonathan-turley/91092182/
<snip>
The latest recipient of an immunity deal from the Justice Department is one of Clinton’s closest aides and a figure at the heart of the email scandal, Cheryl Mills.

She joins two other central figures in benefiting from such deals: former State Department staffer, Bryan Pagliano and tech specialist Paul Combetta.

In addition to at least two other immunized witnesses according to the Associated Press, they represent the big three of officials involved in the underlying allegations of Clinton’s potential criminal conduct.

Their collective immunization is baffling.
<snip>

I have no idea what you are responding to. I was asking the Seattle poster to back up his statements and yes, I used some snark....


Edit: did I see the correct date on your link? SEP16?
 

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So now people who plea are innocent. Is that general policy for you (prison policy), or just in this case?

Entering a plea in exchange for a known penalty is what it is.

It is the option of the accused.

This particular person would not have been charged or had to enter a plea if he never worked for a guy who won the presidency in spite of the wishes political establishment.

The message in all of this is clear. Stay in your own lane and out of our lane or you will be ruined.
 

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Entering a plea in exchange for a known penalty is what it is.

It is the option of the accused.

This particular person would not have been charged or had to enter a plea if he never worked for a guy who won the presidency in spite of the wishes political establishment.

The message in all of this is clear. Stay in your own lane and out of our lane or you will be ruined.

Maybe that BS works in prison.

I don't know if Trump is guilty, but I do know one thing... if Obama's personal attorney plead to four felonies, you wouldn't be claiming Obama is innocent. You'd be portraying Obama as a gang leader.
 
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Cohen pleaded guilty in August to tax fraud, lying to banks and violating campaign finance laws. The campaign finance charges relate to hush money payments to porn star Stormy Daniels and Playboy model Karen McDougal. Cohen pleaded guilty in November to lying to Congress about an aborted deal to build a Trump Tower in Moscow. That case was lodged by special counsel Robert Mueller.

Don't you think it the least bit odd that Cohen's attorney's would have him plead guilty to [what you say] are only NDA's and not felonies? And why would a judge accept guilty pleas to what essentially are not crimes?

Trump's ex-lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen sentenced to 3 years in prison after admitting 'blind loyalty' led him to cover up president's 'dirty deeds'

The result of the plea was that his prison term was reduced from potentially Life and a little more to three years.

If you're a gambling man, that's a good enough trade-off.
 

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Trump: 'I did not commit a campaign violation'

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Stormy Daniels - Donald Trump - Karen McDougal



If you are "Individual-1" in the Southern District of New York indictment against Micheal Cohen, and you did indeed direct Mr. Michael Cohen to pay off two women just previous to the 2016 election, then yes, you have committed campaign finance felony crimes. #1 - A $150,000 hush money payment to former Playboy model Karen McDougal in the early fall of 2016 for her silence and #2 - A $130,000 hush money payment to adult film actress Stormy Daniels in October of 2016 for her silence. Because Cohen admitted that the payments were intended to protect Trump's election chances, they are deemed to be "in-kind contributions" to the Trump campaign. They grossly exceed the donation limits ($2,700 per election), a criminal violation, and neither was included in campaign finance reports, another criminal violation. Rather than be treated as civil violations (an obvious and/or unintentional accounting/filing error etc.), these campaign finance violations above are treated as felonies because Cohen admitted that he violated these campaign finance laws "knowingly and willfully." He also stipulated that he was directed to do so by his client "Individual-1" who is understood to be Donald Trump.

Lawyer Micheal Cohen, American Media CEO David Pecker, and perhaps Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg will testify regarding the above campaign finance felony allegations.

You know, I know we're supposed to say, "don't blame the women", but trump? I mean with me, it's WYSIWYG. I'm the same person here as when I'm in public. I'm not an asshole in public and a freak in the sheets. I'm a freak in the sheets and a nice guy in public. I can't believe that, in private trump is not the same malignant, pedantic narcissist we see him as as president and in the WWF wrestling ring. How in the world could anyone be attracted to that?
 
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