Trump has now fallen below 50% US-wide.

[Phys251]

Trump had a 4%-lead nationally on election night (51-47).

But in the end, with most mail-states (who lean heavily D) finishing their count soon, Trump's national lead has been cut from 4% to 1.5% ...

This is not ideal.

In my opinion, all votes should be counted on election day, or the day after.

California and Co. shouldn't be allowed to count votes for 5 weeks after election day. They should be mandated by the Supreme Court to change their election laws, so that all votes are counted immediately on election day and the day after.

Some countries take weeks to count all their votes. Taking a few days is fine.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Trump had a 4%-lead nationally on election night (51-47).

But in the end, with most mail-states (who lean heavily D) finishing their count soon, Trump's national lead has been cut from 4% to 1.5% ...

This is not ideal.

In my opinion, all votes should be counted on election day, or the day after.

California and Co. shouldn't be allowed to count votes for 5 weeks after election day. They should be mandated by the Supreme Court to change their election laws, so that all votes are counted immediately on election day and the day after.

What ARE you talking about?
It's not as if any state sits there SAYING "Hey we should be ALLOWED to count our votes for five weeks".....that is not how any of this works at all.

Our antiquated systems CANNOT COUNT all the votes as quickly as you'd like, or as I would like, it's not possible.
This morning I had to do something I never thought I'd have to do again, I had to SEND A FAX, because the miserable office I was communicating with doesn't have the budget to modernize and so they still depend on FAX.

That's the same issue with our larger states and the vote.
They're not doing it by FAX but the point is, they are stuck with ancient technology because they cannot get the funds to modernize.

SMALL GOVERNMENT!!! How do you like your SMALL GOVERNMENT?

We will GET our votes counted quickly the day we allow the kind of budgets that are required to make that possible.

 

[Mike1950]

More than 153 million votes are now counted.

California has almost all their votes counted, but around 1 million still is left there.

And in all other states, maybe another 1-2 million are left.

States have until December 11 to finish counting and release their official results to Congress, for the vote of the electoral college.

Trump cheated. He stole the election.
There is already as much proof if not more that this happened than during the entire 4 years after he claimed the 2020 election was stolen from him.
Harris won by a land slide.

 

[rhinefire]

It would have been better if Trump had lost by very narrow margins so we could witness coast-to-coast riots for months ending with thousands serving 20 years.

 

[RedFishBlueFish]

So what? Lots of Presidents have been elected with less than 50%.

As @OlNate said in post #119, if Trump does not get a majority of voters, that's good (from an anti-Trump perspective).

The Orange Asshat can't brag that the majority of voters voted for him. His stating that he has a mandate is more outrageous in that context.

It's a minor thing. But, I'll take it if that's the way the final vote turns out.

Anything bad for Trump is good.

 

[Chomsky]

More than 153 million votes are now counted.

California has almost all their votes counted, but around 1 million still is left there.

And in all other states, maybe another 1-2 million are left.

States have until December 11 to finish counting and release their official results to Congress, for the vote of the electoral college.

Yet MAGA tells us it's a "Mandate"!

 

[braindrain]

Its obvious that Trump is "really" the president. That's not what I am talking about at all. That's the legal situation we must endure and we will do that.

What it means is that the country is still, on balance, more liberal than conservative and that is the basis in which liberals can move forward and with cultural support as roadblocks are put up against the new administration's agenda. There is a lot of power in that, even if its not measurable in a legality sense.

How exactly are you seeing that the country is more liberal than conservative. Trump not only received more votes then the liberal candidate the right has control of the house and the senate.

Sounds like rather take an honest look at your positions and how America feels about those issues you would just prefer to live in denial.

 

[Slartibartfast]

How exactly are you seeing that the country is more liberal than conservative. Trump not only received more votes then the liberal candidate the right has control of the house and the senate.

Sounds like rather take an honest look at your positions and how America feels about those issues you would just prefer to live in denial.

Over the last 20 years, my stances has been the case when you look at issue polling.

 

[braindrain]

Over the last 20 years, my stances has been the case when you look at issue polling.

Besides not really making any sense it didn’t actually address my post at all.


Is that the whole denial thing happening again.

 

[Cardinal]

Besides not really making any sense it didn’t actually address my post at all.


Is that the whole denial thing happening again.

It makes completely sense. When you poll voters on individual issues, liberal policies win out almost every single time.

 

[Slartibartfast]

Besides not really making any sense it didn’t actually address my post at all.


Is that the whole denial thing happening again.

Then you weren’t trying to listen.

 

[braindrain]

It makes completely sense. When you poll voters on individual issues, liberal policies win out almost every single time.

No it literally does not. It’s a bit of a word salad.


And when you dive deeper into those issues like asking them if they are willing to pay for those policies, the support disappears.

People love “free” shit. Most people don’t support paying more for that “free” shit.

 

[braindrain]

Then you weren’t trying to listen.

Yes I was. It was just a very poorly constructed sentence.

And it still doesn’t explain how Trump winning the popular vote and the right taking over the house and the senate proves that the country leans more liberal than conservative. Which is what I was asking you.

 

[noonereal]

In my opinion, all votes should be counted on election day, or the day after.

You can count early and mail in as they come in.

Looks like Trump did not get a mandate at all. Instead he won a very close election

 

[noonereal]

Yes I was. It was just a very poorly constructed sentence.

And it still doesn’t explain how Trump winning the popular vote and the right taking over the house and the senate proves that the country leans more liberal than conservative. Which is what I was asking you.

Pretty easy to understand his assertion. Our government is skewed toward the right, structurally, so that it disguises the wants of the average American.

 

[braindrain]

Pretty easy to understand his assertion. Our government is skewed toward the right, structurally, so that it disguises the wants of the average American.

No it’s a rather poorly constructed sentence.

But more importantly it didn’t even address my post which he was responding to.

And no our government is not skewed to the right structurally. That’s just silly.

 

[Cardinal]

No it literally does not. It’s a bit of a word salad.

None of that was a word salad. "Voters overwhelmingly prefer nearly all liberal policies" is as straightforward a statement as a person can make.

And when you dive deeper into those issues like asking them if they are willing to pay for those policies, the support disappears.

Such as?

People love “free” shit. Most people don’t support paying more for that “free” shit.

 

[Teatime]

Which means a majority of American voters voted against Trump.

And even more voted against Kamala.

 

[noonereal]

No it’s a rather poorly constructed sentence.

But more importantly it didn’t even address my post which he was responding to.

And no our government is not skewed to the right structurally. That’s just silly.

Lol

God bless you

 

[Jack Fabulous]

As @OlNate said in post #119, if Trump does not get a majority of voters, that's good (from an anti-Trump perspective).

The Orange Asshat can't brag that the majority of voters voted for him. His stating that he has a mandate is more outrageous in that context.

It's a minor thing. But, I'll take it if that's the way the final vote turns out.

Anything bad for Trump is good.

It's good that you can find refuge in trivial things like a popular vote percentage. You've found your safe space.

 

[braindrain]

None of that was a word salad. "Voters overwhelmingly prefer nearly all liberal policies" is as straightforward a statement as a person can make.



Such as?

That is not the post I was saying was word salad and you know it. Why play silly games.

Americans already think they are paying too much in taxes. That you think they will willingly pay more is just silly.

 

[Perotista]

Yes, because of the electoral college.

In France though, Trump would now face a 2nd round runoff election with Harris though - because he dropped below 50%.

Georgia has a runoff law for all elected offices except the president. If no candidate receives 50% plus one vote, the top two finishers go to a runoff election to be held 3 weeks after election day. The last runoff was between Walker and Warnock for the senate seat here in Georgia in the 2022 midterms.

https://www.cnn.com/election/2022/results/georgia/senate-runoff

 

[braindrain]

Lol

God bless you

Yeah I am not surprised you have nothing but snark. It’s all you really ever can manage.

 

[Slartibartfast]

Yes I was. It was just a very poorly constructed sentence.

And it still doesn’t explain how Trump winning the popular vote and the right taking over the house and the senate proves that the country leans more liberal than conservative. Which is what I was asking you.

The response I gave was sufficient and addressed your point.

 

[braindrain]

The response I gave was sufficient and addressed your point.

No it absolutely did not. But if you want to pretend I really don’t care