Yeup and Pence was Livid over that, trump just put the final nail in his own coffin.Now you've given me something more to think about...
He is vindictive. Look how he turned on his own VP yesterday at his rally.
No harm in wishing.Good for you for saying that. Trump does not have the honor to resign, so one of the other two options will be perused.
Nope not at all.No harm in wishing.
I’m of the age when I watched Nixon resign. I strongly disliked him and was glad to see him do so. He at least saw the rationale for taking that path. So at least in that regards I can respect Nixon. I don’t think I’ll have that opportunity in this case.
I agree.Nope not at all.
So am I and, believe it or not I really had no issue with Nixon, he actually did some good things, I was in the military when he resigned in 74. Yes he saw the writing on the wall and took the easy and right way out offered to him. No trump will not step down, well I doubt it, but he may want to try the self pardon he talks about, real soon, whether or not it is legal, because after yesterday I seriously doubt Pence would grant him one now and we know Biden won't.
This was a shameful event in this Nations history and I am disgusted that some of my fellow Americans that consider themselves Patriots have turn out to be in reality Insurrectionists that need to be brought before courts for justice.
Now you've given me something more to think about...
He is vindictive. Look how he turned on his own VP yesterday at his rally.
You know what would be classic, but never happen: Trump resigns so that Pence can pardon him, but then Pence doesn't?Pretty unbelievable. Our own duly elected president incited a mob to storm the Capital and commit sedition. Why is this ok in ANYBODY’S playbook?
I don’t care for Pence’s politics but I think he is a decent grounded man.
He needs to get rid of the jackass we have as president for 13 more days
Punching fist does not imply violence? You can talk yourself into dying on that hill if you want, but it's silly.NO, it is not a threat of violence. Make America Great Again means just what is says. But if you never thought America was ever great, then maybe you will never understand the meaning.
Do believe that all violence (use of force) is bad, or some violence moral and necessary? Would it be okay to use violence against a man trying to rape a little girl to save the child? I'm sure you would use violent force to save a child, I assume this because I am certain you are an ethical person.
A fist can be used to offend, or used to defend. I display as a symbol of defense. Same would be said about all of my guns. I don't have them to harm or commit crimes, I am armed to defend against unjust violence.
You are really reaching. And it is not my job to worry about the tender sensibilities of people who are not white, not straight, or not born in the USA. If my white skin, or my non homosexual US born self tends to bother some people, that seem like a 'you problem' not a me problem.
I always saw it (the Black fist) as a show of solidarity.
My Maga fist, you can assume whatever you like, but show me where I have ever advocated criminal violence, because it never happened.
I think we are done here. You are triggered by your false assumptions and wild imagination. Try to get a grip.
Punching fist does not imply violence? You can talk yourself into dying on that hill if you want, but it's silly.
I am old enough too and I respect Nixon a lot more then Trump for having the balls to resign and not keep it going.No harm in wishing.
I’m of the age when I watched Nixon resign. I strongly disliked him and was glad to see him do so. He at least saw the rationale for taking that path. So at least in that regards I can respect Nixon. I don’t think I’ll have that opportunity in this case.
I am old enough too and I respect Nixon a lot more then Trump for having the balls to resign and not keep it going.
I have no respect for Trump at all, he pushed this too far
You know how I defend myself, I already told you. With Krav (backed by Ruger, backed by pit bull). But why are you leading with that? Why is your primary symbol one that suggests violence? Just stop, this is a ***ing civil society and a democracy. The MAGA cult of threatened violence -- fists, clubs, guns, assault weapons, shields, body armor -- WTF? Seriously, be a human who engages in honest discourse without constantly insisting on a looming image of violence. This is a discussion board, not a dick measuring contest for primitives who resolve everything by fists and combat.Punching fists are violent, but some violent force is in justifiable defense and therefore moral.
How do your defend yourself, with gummi bears and warm milk?
You know how I defend myself, I already told you. With Krav (backed by Ruger, backed by pit bull). But why are you leading with that? Why is your primary symbol one that suggests violence? Just stop, this is a ***ing civil society and a democracy. The MAGA cult of threatened violence -- fists, clubs, guns, assault weapons, shields, body armor -- WTF? Seriously, be a human who engages in honest discourse without constantly insisting on a looming image of violence. This is a discussion board, not a dick measuring contest for primitives who resolve everything by fists and combat.
Some people here think your MAGA thing is about Donald Trump and they do not realize it it an Israeli Defense Force anti-Palestinian logo. It would help understanding if you included a Star of David flag in your signature.MAGA isn't about all of those things you claim. Just because a tiny fraction co opted MAGA and is using it for violence, isn't what the 99% are about. But you lefties made the same claims about the Tea Party too. It just isn't the truth.
And I have threatened no one here, so stop spinning lies. If you don't like my MAGA fist, then turn off sigs and you won't see it. Meanwhile it isn't my responsibilty to certify your safe zone. How you self trigger yourself is your issue, not mine.
Some people here think your MAGA thing is about Donald Trump and they do not realize it it an Israeli Defense Force anti-Palestinian logo. It would help understanding if you included a Star of David flag in your signature.
This is not the forum to debate the legality of the Israeli occupation of Palestine. Sorry. I just think some members believe your signature is about making America great again and not the Israeli Defense Forces.What makes you think it has anything to do with "anti-Palestinian"?
It doesn't. So you don't need to make that kind of false assertion. Whether MAGA or Krav Maga, doesn't matter. It isn't a call to violent oppression or anything illegal.
That will be one of the more interesting things to see in Bob Woodward's next book about this clown...the absolute unraveling of an already delusional and mentally undeveloped manchild.From what I've been hearing, it was Vice President Pence - not President Trump - who ordered the mobilization of the DC National Guard. If this is true, by my reckoning he has already effectively invoked the 25th Amendment - even if he hasn't done so officially.
I didn't realize Woodward was writing books about himself now.That will be one of the more interesting things to see in Bob Woodward's next book about this clown...the absolute unraveling of an already delusional and mentally undeveloped manchild.
Yet MAGA is Donald Trump's message, and he was the one who incited the violence at the Capitol. You can't sperate the two, and by continuing to show that message is in agreement with it, all of it.MAGA isn't about all of those things you claim. Just because a tiny fraction co opted MAGA and is using it for violence, isn't what the 99% are about. But you lefties made the same claims about the Tea Party too. It just isn't the truth.
And I have threatened no one here, so stop spinning lies. If you don't like my MAGA fist, then turn off sigs and you won't see it. Meanwhile it isn't my responsibilty to certify your safe zone. How you self trigger yourself is your issue, not mine.
Court Jester said:
MAGA isn't about all of those things you claim. Just because a tiny fraction co opted MAGA and is using it for violence, isn't what the 99% are about. But you lefties made the same claims about the Tea Party too. It just isn't the truth.
Yet MAGA is Donald Trump's message, and he was the one who incited the violence at the Capitol. You can't sperate the two, and by continuing to show that message is in agreement with it, all of it.
Yet MAGA is Donald Trump's message, and he was the one who incited the violence at the Capitol. You can't sperate the two, and by continuing to show that message is in agreement with it, all of it.
OK tiger, we're in agreement on that, but I was addressing a different point to another poster there...I don't give a damn about an avatar that symbolizes support for sedition. I want the jackass removed from office for his role in the attack on our Capital. HE egged them on; HE told them to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue; HE told them that they had to be strong to take back the country. He is a sick sick man. The world would be a much better place without him.
I saw a new attempted "b-b-but" backtracking video on TV today, but it's not on You Tube yet.Where's Cruz been yesterday and today???
Anything from the Texas coward that I might have missed?
That will be one of the more interesting things to see in Bob Woodward's next book about this clown...the absolute unraveling of an already delusional and mentally undeveloped manchild.
Yet MAGA is Donald Trump's message, and he was the one who incited the violence at the Capitol. You can't sperate the two, and by continuing to show that message is in agreement with it, all of it.
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