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Time for the 25th Ammendment

Perhaps you can use that KRAV MAGA logo since that is what you are trying to represent? Save the ‘MAGA fist’ shorthand logo for martial arts forums you post on where it less more likely to be interpreted properly?
 
Court Jester said:
My icon has nothing to do with proud boys, I already answered that. So cool your jets, take a deep breath, and stop allowing your vivid imagination to get the best of you.

My icon has nothing to do with any of the things you think it means. Sorry you are so easily triggered by it
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You must be a Jew then. Do you put Israel before America, I wonder. Is Israel great or does it need to be great again?
 
Jean-s said:
You must be a Jew then. Do you put Israel before America, I wonder. Is Israel great or does it need to be great again?
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Are you practicing anti-Semitism or have you already perfected it?
 
OpportunityCost said:
Are you practicing anti-Semitism or have you already perfected it?
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How is it antisemitic to ask someone with an Israeli logo if they are a Jew? Am I supposed to shut up because you accused me of being antisemitic, I wonder.
 
skeptic llc said:
(2) It's understood as a threat of violence. MAGA is all about armed rallies, bringing in foot soldiers in homemade armor, etc.
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NO, it is not a threat of violence. Make America Great Again means just what is says. But if you never thought America was ever great, then maybe you will never understand the meaning.


skeptic llc said:
This is not an academic question in a vacuum; here and now, MAGA fist is a violent symbol.
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Do believe that all violence (use of force) is bad, or some violence moral and necessary? Would it be okay to use violence against a man trying to rape a little girl to save the child? I'm sure you would use violent force to save a child, I assume this because I am certain you are an ethical person.

A fist can be used to offend, or used to defend. I display as a symbol of defense. Same would be said about all of my guns. I don't have them to harm or commit crimes, I am armed to defend against unjust violence.


skeptic llc said:
Answering your specific question, it's a threat of violence. Or, if you prefer, a "promise to defend" against that which MAGA opposes -- anyone who is not white, straight, US-born, etc. I.e., a threat of violence.
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You are really reaching. And it is not my job to worry about the tender sensibilities of people who are not white, not straight, or not born in the USA. If my white skin, or my non homosexual US born self tends to bother some people, that seem like a 'you problem' not a me problem.

skeptic llc said:
Black fist (68 or so olympics) -- same problem, it is a threat of violence, no one should pretend otherwise. A less credible threat to be sure (see: population numbers, history), but a threat for sure.
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I always saw it (the Black fist) as a show of solidarity.

My Maga fist, you can assume whatever you like, but show me where I have ever advocated criminal violence, because it never happened.

skeptic llc said:
MAGA fist -- QUIT WITH THE ****ING VIOLENCE in your communications and just talk as if we were a sane, civilized country
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I think we are done here. You are triggered by your false assumptions and wild imagination. Try to get a grip.
 
Jean-s said:
How is it antisemitic to ask someone with an Israeli logo if they are a Jew? Am I supposed to shut up because you accused me of being antisemitic, I wonder.
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No surprise here, the anti-Semitism was when you asked if he put his allegiance in Israel first. Not because you asked him if he was a Jew.

You should stop because you are being anti-Semitic not because I accused you of it.
 
Jean-s said:
You must be a Jew then. Do you put Israel before America, I wonder. Is Israel great or does it need to be great again?
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Anti Semetic much.... sheesh!

No, I'm not Jewish, but believe the Jewish people are a great people and culture.

I don't think Israel needs to be greater than America. But one thing is for certain, and it is that Israel is the greatest nation in the Middle East BY FAR. And that is due to the remarkable and resilient Jewish culture and Jewish people.
 
OpportunityCost said:
No surprise here, the anti-Semitism was when you asked if he put his allegiance in Israel first. Not because you asked him if he was a Jew.

You should stop because you are being anti-Semitic not because I accused you of it.
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Quit giving orders to others you accuse of being antisemitic to stop posting. Are only friends of Israel supposed to post here?
 
Court Jester said:
Anti Semetic much.... sheesh!

No, I'm not Jewish, but believe the Jewish people are a great people and culture.

I don't think Israel needs to be greater than America. But one thing is for certain, and it is that Israel is the greatest nation in the Middle East BY FAR. And that is due to the remarkable and resilient Jewish culture and Jewish people.
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How does destroying the Palestinian culture make a people great?
 
Personally, I'd stand the Orange Idiot against a brick wall and end his idiocy once and for all. (oh, I'd probably also put his kids there as well.
 
Kiwimac said:
Personally, I'd stand the Orange Idiot against a brick wall and end his idiocy once and for all. (oh, I'd probably also put his kids there as well.
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Violence is not the American way.
 
Jean-s said:
Quit giving orders to others you accuse of being antisemitic to stop posting. Are only friends of Israel supposed to post here?
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There you go again, using phrases anti-Semitics use.
 
Jean-s said:
You have made your pro-Israel sentiments quite clear but Court Jester can speak for himself.
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No, I haven't said anything pro-Israel, I have said things anti-defamation and pro-decency.
 
jpn said:
I'd feel better about that if Pence hadn't spent the last six years or so being an obsequious lick-spittle Trump supporter. He was one of the very first national-level Republican officials to endorse Trump. Pence is a Vichy Republican of the worst sort.
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Mike Pence has the most punchable face of any politician in history.
 
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OpportunityCost said:
No, I haven't said anything pro-Israel, I have said things anti-defamation and pro-decency.
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Some of us are not so easily silenced with an accusation of being antisemitic. I do not see you comment on the indecency of disregarding the rights of Palestinians so quickly.
 
Jean-s said:
Some of us are not so easily silenced with an accusation of being antisemitic. I do not see you comment on the indecency of disregarding the rights of Palestinians so quickly.
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Yeah, not touching that bait. If I wanted to discuss the M/E I would go to that forum.
 
lurchadams said:
Mike Pence has the most punchable face of any politician in history.
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Nope. Mitch McConnell and Ted Cruz win that category hands down.
 
Jean-s said:
How does destroying the Palestinian culture make a people great?
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They do that to themselves by continuing to make war against Israel, and rejecting the rights of Jews to exist in their own traditional homeland.
 
Is Pence brave enough to throw Donald "So Damn Insane" Trump under the bus?
 
Kiwimac said:
Bullshit.
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Palestinians shouting death to Jews on the Temple mount as Jews come to visit the historical place (which predated Islam) of their most sacred site. The place where the Jewish temple once stood.

So, no, no bullsh*t.

 
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