I would tell him to go **** himself. If I did have a gun free establishment I would end that practice immediately just on principle. I'm sick and tired of these politicians on all levels thinking an election gives them any kind of merit to **** on the rights of constituents.For us Gun owners in the Pacific Northwest Mayor McGinn was been a consent thorn in our side. Now we asking businesses to join his movement of being Gun-Free and have a Sign in the front (Signs that have no legal bearing) to adverstise the businesses as a "Gun-Free" zone because we know "Gun-Free zones" like schools have worked so well.
McGinn asking Seattle businesses to go ‘gun-free’ | Local News | The Seattle Times
I would tell him to go **** himself. If I did have a gun free establishment I would end that practice immediately just on principle. I'm sick and tired of these politicians on all levels thinking an election gives them any kind of merit to **** on the rights of constituents.
That might actually be a smart move in some parts of the west coast, sad to say. The guy sounds like a complete jackass.His butt got kicked in the primaries so this is a move to win votes for November as he tries to stay in office.
That might actually be a smart move in some parts of the west coast, sad to say. The guy sounds like a complete jackass.
Politicians always seem to believe they are more important than rights. Shame really.He is. Every since he lost his court case of banning guns in parks in Seattle he was been trying to get State Preemption removed so he can make his own gun laws.
It always starts with "asking" when it comes to politicians, then it escalates to "well, they didn't listen so now we'll make them".I don't see the problem. He's asking them, not telling them to. He can start whatever campaign he wants, it's not going to change the Second Amendment.
I don't see the problem. He's asking them, not telling them to. He can start whatever campaign he wants, it's not going to change the Second Amendment.
I would tell him to go **** himself. If I did have a gun free establishment I would end that practice immediately just on principle. I'm sick and tired of these politicians on all levels thinking an election gives them any kind of merit to **** on the rights of constituents.
From a purely pragmatic point of view, regardless of one's position on gun control or concealed carry, I just don't understand the point to posting such signs. It is just advertising to criminals that your establishment is full of unarmed patrons. I don't get it.
To be honest, that would have been me ten years ago. Nowadays I'm so fed up with idiots in both parties thinking that elections give them terms of dictatorship rather than terms of service. They need to start remembering that they are public employees and serve at the discretion of the people they are trying to regulate into servitude.I would tell him I will go gun-free when his security,police, city hall and every other government office is gun-free.
To be honest, that would have been me ten years ago. Nowadays I'm so fed up with idiots in both parties thinking that elections give them terms of dictatorship rather than terms of service. They need to start remembering that they are public employees and serve at the discretion of the people they are trying to regulate into servitude.
From a purely pragmatic point of view, regardless of one's position on gun control or concealed carry, I just don't understand the point to posting such signs. It is just advertising to criminals that your establishment is full of unarmed patrons. I don't get it.
For us Gun owners in the Pacific Northwest Mayor McGinn was been a consent thorn in our side. Now we asking businesses to join his movement of being Gun-Free and have a Sign in the front (Signs that have no legal bearing) to adverstise the businesses as a "Gun-Free" zone because we know "Gun-Free zones" like schools have worked so well.
McGinn asking Seattle businesses to go ‘gun-free’ | Local News | The Seattle Times
I don't see the problem. He's asking them, not telling them to. He can start whatever campaign he wants, it's not going to change the Second Amendment.
First, I find it funny that you proudly proclaim yourself a Tea Party Member, but say that "Pacific Northwest Mayor McGinn was been a consent thorn in our side."
Funny. On so many levels. Constant is not even close to the definition of consent.
Second, if a place wants to be gun free of its own accord, why not? Bars for instance. Alcohol and guns do not mix. And if you think schools are a place for guns, you clearly do not know any teachers. Giving some teachers firearms when there are days they are close to beating their own students is a bad, bad idea. And as any teachers knows, you'd have to lock the firearms up and somehow attach the key so that it can never leave your body to ensure that the firearm is never used improperly.
So I carry but I don't touch booze.
Not everyone is so enlightened. Can you imagine two rival biker gangs at a bar where everyone is packing and drunk?
That's just asking for it.
its both state and federal felonies to be drunk and in possession of a weapon
funny thing-there has been almost zero cases of CCW holders violating those rules
Bars can ban them already, the owner of a premises can set the rules. Most states ban bar carry altogether but a few, including La. are working on carry laws to allow those with CCW to carry inside of an establishment that serves alcohol, however drinking while carrying is still prohibited by law.From what I gather, many carry states have allowed bars to ban them.
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