For starters, a few words about premises and some necessary background. Those who deploy the “stupid term” (see Christopher Hitchens) “Islamophobia” to silence critics of the faith hold, in essence, that Muslims deserve to be approached as a race apart, and not as equals, not as individual adults capable of rational choice, but as lifelong members of an immutable, sacrosanct community, whose (often highly illiberal) views must not be questioned, whose traditions (including the veiling of women) must not be challenged, whose scripturally inspired violence must be explained away as the inevitable outcome of Western interventionism in the Middle East or racism and “marginalization” in Western countries.
Fail to exhibit due respect for Islam — not Muslims as people, Islam — and you risk being excoriated, by certain progressives, as an “Islamophobe,” as a fomenter of hatred for an underprivileged minority, as an abettor of Donald Trump and his bigoted policy proposals, and, most illogically, as a racist.
Free Speech and Islam — The Left Betrays the Most Vulnerable | Quillette
The title and article speak for themselves. In my opinion, the Left's blind spot for Islamic behaviors which would never be tolerated were they Christian is a black eye on Liberal ideology. In this instance, the Right has a better grip on reality than the Leftists.
At the same time, where does criticism cross the line?
Leftists hate America, Christians, and anything about America and it's founding. Islam and leftists make natural allies and given that leftists kiss muslim a$$, there's no denying they deeply desire to see America destroyed.In my opinion, the Left's blind spot for Islamic behaviors which would never be tolerated were they Christian is a black eye on Liberal ideology. In this instance, the Right has a better grip on reality than the Leftists.
At the same time, where does criticism cross the line?
Leftists hate America, Christians, and anything about America and it's founding. Islam and leftists make natural allies and given that leftists kiss muslim a$$, there's no denying they deeply desire to see America destroyed.
Leftists hate America, Christians, and anything about America and it's founding. Islam and leftists make natural allies and given that leftists kiss muslim a$$, there's no denying they deeply desire to see America destroyed.
...Lean, in the very first graph, presents Nawaz as a turncoat dandy, as “ambling” about an Oxford debating hall “sporting a slick black tuxedo and a gelled coiffure,” urging his audience to “accept the motion [sic] that the American Dream is a noble ethos to which all people should aspire.” Hardly what one should expect, as Lean has it, from a “self-described former ‘radical.’”
We then learn that Nawaz has been “ingratiating himself in [sic] the growing union of neoconservatives and hawkish liberals who believe in Western exceptionalism and the efficacy of power, especially military power, to expand its influence and protect its interests” against the “alleged threat” posed by Islamism. (Alleged?)
What irks me is a lot of feminists tend to defend Islam, when in the Middle East women have basically little to no rights at all, and there's so much violence committed against them and some are even hanged or stoned to death in the middle of the street. And it's all because of the fact that Islam is basically the law of the land in the ME.Why should there be a "line"? We are talking about a religion, something people follow of their own free will, which mistreats women, gays, and those trying to practice other religions. IMO, there is no "line" when denouncing such barbarism.
Is there a line when denouncing the KKK?
What irks me is a lot of feminists tend to defend Islam, when in the Middle East women have basically little to no rights at all, and there's so much violence committed against them and some are even hanged or stoned to death in the middle of the street. And it's all because of the fact that Islam is basically the law of the land in the ME.
But feminists continue to defend Islam, for some God unknown reason.
What irks me is a lot of feminists tend to defend Islam, when in the Middle East women have basically little to no rights at all, and there's so much violence committed against them and some are even hanged or stoned to death in the middle of the street. And it's all because of the fact that Islam is basically the law of the land in the ME.
But feminists continue to defend Islam, for some God unknown reason.
And most of these liberal third-wave feminists complain about their first-world problems, like Lara Croft's tits in video games or the air conditioning is sexist. But on the other side of the world, you have women who are raped, tortured and killed by these barbaric Islamists. But these liberal feminists either don't care, or just choose to ignore that.Liberal hate boners are reserved for christians and whites. I'd like to see them head over there with some of the more histrionic pro gay marriage types and do a little protesting.
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Does it ever "cross the line" when it's a religion other than Islam?
Why should there be a "line"? We are talking about a religion, something people follow of their own free will, which mistreats women, gays, and those trying to practice other religions. IMO, there is no "line" when denouncing such barbarism.
Is there a line when denouncing the KKK?
The title and article speak for themselves. In my opinion, the Left's blind spot for Islamic behaviors which would never be tolerated were they Christian is a black eye on Liberal ideology. In this instance, the Right has a better grip on reality than the Leftists.
Well there's a difference really. Christians against gays and women usually tend to just simply voice their disagreement, usually in the form of a annoying loud protest while standing on the sidewalk. Islamists however, will have no hesitation in stoning both gays and women to death, at least in the ME.So by the same reasoning, you'd be ok with people saying the same things about Christianity. After all, many Christians also don't treat gay people well and mistreat women and those trying to practice other religions.
You see what I'm saying?
There's a double standard which many people apply when it comes to Islam.
Does it ever "cross the line" when it's a religion other than Islam?
And most of these liberal third-wave feminists complain about their first-world problems, like Lara Croft's tits in video games or the air conditioning is sexist. But on the other side of the world, you have women who are raped, tortured and killed by these barbaric Islamists. But these liberal feminists either don't care, or just choose to ignore that.
And most of these liberal third-wave feminists complain about their first-world problems, like Lara Croft's tits in video games or the air conditioning is sexist. But on the other side of the world, you have women who are raped, tortured and killed by these barbaric Islamists. But these liberal feminists either don't care, or just choose to ignore that.
I think it's completely valid to say that there are multiple passages in the Quran that encourage violence in the name of Allah, but it is lazy to assume that Islam is the only real factor when it comes to terrorism. There are plenty of Muslims that don't support terrorism but still follow their interpretation of the Quran. In my opinion, the left is trying to avoid labeling an entire religious group as terrorists so that they can actually look at the strongest causes of these problems without just demonizing Islam completely.The title and article speak for themselves. In my opinion, the Left's blind spot for Islamic behaviors which would never be tolerated were they Christian is a black eye on Liberal ideology. In this instance, the Right has a better grip on reality than the Leftists.
So by the same reasoning, you'd be ok with people saying the same things about Christianity. After all, many Christians also don't treat gay people well and mistreat women and those trying to practice other religions.
You see what I'm saying?
There's a double standard which many people apply when it comes to Islam.
What irks me is a lot of feminists tend to defend Islam, when in the Middle East women have basically little to no rights at all, and there's so much violence committed against them and some are even hanged or stoned to death in the middle of the street. And it's all because of the fact that Islam is basically the law of the land in the ME.
But feminists continue to defend Islam, for some God unknown reason.
And most of these liberal third-wave feminists complain about their first-world problems, like Lara Croft's tits in video games or the air conditioning is sexist. But on the other side of the world, you have women who are raped, tortured and killed by these barbaric Islamists. But these liberal feminists either don't care, or just choose to ignore that.
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