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galenrox said:
You're in the midwest...ain't gonna find no brains there....
galenrox said:BRAINS!! MUST EAT BRAINS! I DON'T BELIEVE JESUS IS MY SAViOR, AND IT MAKES ME NEED TO EAT BRAINS!
Oh you mother****er, at least I'm not from the state that elected Ricky "Even Married Couples Shouldn't Have Sex Except for Reproductive Purposes" Santorum!cnredd said:You're in the midwest...ain't gonna find no brains there....
galenrox said:Oh you mother****er, at least I'm not from the state that elected Ricky "Even Married Couples Shouldn't Have Sex Except for Reproductive Purposes" Santorum!
cnredd said:How com* ev*ry on* *f y*ur sentenc*s ha* t* hav* an ast*ri*k
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TJS0110 said:wow see he is crazy he sais he's a christian but he is raceist....I see controdictions in his future.
you wanna know something kinda weird but cool? When I was like 6 or 7 my dad and I read the book of revelations as bedtime stories!TJS0110 said:revalations is a great part of the bible kinda freaky but good. I read it very interesting. I dont know i believe that we all go to heaven or hell but i also believe that there is a final judgement for those who are on earth
TJS0110 said:revalations is a great part of the bible kinda freaky but good. I read it very interesting. I dont know i believe that we all go to heaven or hell but i also believe that there is a final judgement for those who are on earth
galenrox said:you wanna know something kinda weird but cool? When I was like 6 or 7 my dad and I read the book of revelations as bedtime stories!
The Spiritual works of Mercy enumerated and required of Christians are:TJS0110 said:Jesus also said that everyone is your neighbor(everyone not just people who think like you) Besides its not your place to judge whos right or wrong its Gods.
Fantasea said:The Spiritual works of Mercy enumerated and required of Christians are:
To instruct the ignorant;
To counsel the doubtful;
To admonish sinners;
To bear wrongs patiently;
To forgive offences willingly;
To comfort the afflicted;
To pray for the living and the dead.
In order to comply with the first, second, third, and sixth, one, having made observations, must draw conslusions that some overt action is indicated.
Does this not constitute 'judgement'? Of course it does. What this tells us is that to judge the actions of others is not intrinsically wrong, but, on the other hand, is often a required action.
Where is the line drawn? At what point does the following become operative: "judge not, lest ye shall be judged"?
There are two positions.robin said:How can you know for sure that every single word in the Bible is the word of God ?
Fantasea said:There are two positions.
The first believes that the writings of the scriveners of the Bible were the result of Divine Guidance. Hence, the word of God.
The second believes that the writings of the scriveners of the Bible were of their own concoction. Hence fiction, invention, anecdote, story, tale, yarn.
The first position is held by persons of faith.
One who is seeking certainty won't find it in the arena of religion but would be well advised to consider mathematics instead.
To me, one of the most interesting aspects of the Bible, both Old and New Testaments, is the tracing of the geneology of Christ's human family through every generation to Adam and Eve. Given the monumental task of constructing such a 'family tree' thousands of years ago is sufficient indication that the scriveners were simply as stenographers taking dictation from the "Boss".
The question becomes whether one should simply ignore the actions of others or to intervene if intervention seems to be the better course. However, this does involve making a judgement, doesn't it?HTColeman said:What Bible did that come from? My bible says;Originally Posted by Fantasea
The Spiritual works of Mercy enumerated and required of Christians are:
To instruct the ignorant;
To counsel the doubtful;
To admonish sinners;
To bear wrongs patiently;
To forgive offences willingly;
To comfort the afflicted;
To pray for the living and the dead.
In order to comply with the first, second, third, and sixth, one, having made observations, must draw conslusions that some overt action is indicated.
Does this not constitute 'judgement'? Of course it does. What this tells us is that to judge the actions of others is not intrinsically wrong, but, on the other hand, is often a required action.
Where is the line drawn? At what point does the following become operative: "judge not, lest ye shall be judged"?
James 4:11
Brothers, do not slander one another. Anyone who speaks against his brother or judges him speaks against the law and judges it. When you judge the law, you are not keeping it, but sitting in judgment on it.
Luke 6:37 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)
37Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:
Fantasea said:The question becomes whether one should simply ignore the actions of others or to intervene if intervention seems to be the better course. However, this does involve making a judgement, doesn't it?
What do you think? Does one ignore the straying lamb, the alcoholic, the drug user, the compulsive gambler, the abusive spouse or parent, and stand idly by as an individual or family suffers as a result of destructive behavior?
Does one turn his back saying, "It's none of my business."?
I have no idea of how the followers of Henry VIII, who elevated a common marital dispute to the formation of a whole new religion and required his subjects, under pain of death, to join, see things. However, Roman Catholics, who diligently practice their faith, observe the Spiritual Works of Mercy and see things this way:
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10198d.htm
Fantasea said:The Spiritual works of Mercy enumerated and required of Christians are:
To instruct the ignorant;
To counsel the doubtful;
To admonish sinners;
To bear wrongs patiently;
To forgive offences willingly;
To comfort the afflicted;
To pray for the living and the dead.
In order to comply with the first, second, third, and sixth, one, having made observations, must draw conslusions that some overt action is indicated.
Does this not constitute 'judgement'? Of course it does. What this tells us is that to judge the actions of others is not intrinsically wrong, but, on the other hand, is often a required action.
Where is the line drawn? At what point does the following become operative: "judge not, lest ye shall be judged"?
Fantasea said:I have no idea of how the followers of Henry VIII, who elevated a common marital dispute to the formation of a whole new religion and required his subjects, under pain of death, to join, see things. However, Roman Catholics, who diligently practice their faith, observe the Spiritual Works of Mercy and see things this way:
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10198d.htm
I've also noted our little skinhead interloper. Quite inexplicable how trash even finds its way into The Hereafter.TJS0110 said:I made that statement in response to comment a nazi made. I said it because he was useing judgement to condemn the jews.
Forgive me, but I believe that what you wrote is a perfect illustration of the following Merriam-Webster's word definition:HTColeman said:You do not have to judge to help someone. You may realize they are struggling, but that is not judging them. In fact, you render yourself less able to help if first you judge them.Originally Posted by Fantasea
The question becomes whether one should simply ignore the actions of others or to intervene if intervention seems to be the better course. However, this does involve making a judgement, doesn't it?
What do you think? Does one ignore the straying lamb, the alcoholic, the drug user, the compulsive gambler, the abusive spouse or parent, and stand idly by as an individual or family suffers as a result of destructive behavior?
Does one turn his back saying, "It's none of my business."?
I have no idea of how the followers of Henry VIII, who elevated a common marital dispute to the formation of a whole new religion and required his subjects, under pain of death, to join, see things. However, Roman Catholics, who diligently practice their faith, observe the Spiritual Works of Mercy and see things this way:
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10198d.htm
Fantasea said:Forgive me, but I believe that what you wrote is a perfect illustration of the following Merriam-Webster's word definition:
quibble[1]
(verb) 1 : to evade the point of an argument by caviling about words; 2 a : CAVIL , CARP ; b : BICKER : to subject to quibbles
quibble[2]
(noun) 1 : an evasion of or shift from the point; 2 : a minor objection or criticism
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