Bestial_Pagan said:I believe in beforebirth. Man I miss those happy days. I really can´t believe in eternal, as there was beginning. Eternal has a beginning? One-way eternity:mrgreen:
Scholastic said:you are missing the boat. You are arguing as though religion is merely something made up that may or may not be correct that is only there to influence how people act. That is bullshit. Religion, concerning Catholicism, is an instutition installed by God himself that provides an intermediate between God and Man. It is a voice that continuously rejoices in the message given by Christ himself 2 thousand years ago. Man has been reconciled through the blood of the innocent sacrifice.
TJS0110 said:I'm catholic i believe in most things the church advocates. I believe in the laws of the church. You however only believe in the rules. What is a rule that has no meaning behind it, its a word and words are pointless. You have to believe in the purpose of the rule and not just the rule. God wanted us to have respect for human life so he said thow shall not kill, he didnt say it because he wanted to make a rule he said it for a purpose. If you only followed that rule becuase it was a rule you wouldn't be getting the full effect, to care for you fellow humans.
Scholastic said:and in one fell swoop you portray the fact that you missed the point of what i was trying to say. God gave a message. Christ did certain things. However, even aside from the basic message, one can arrive at certain conclusions based on that message. Among them: Aliens do not exist. Unbelievers are condemned to reprobation.
TJS0110 said:you aren't even makeing a point your just babaling without going anywhere. You didnt even comment on what i said. Also are you a nazi?
I was meaning about eternal life, as promised. I do know eternity means yesterday, this moment and tomorrow simultaneously. And that´s why I don´t believe I have afterlife.
Scholastic said:A) If i didn't adress what you said, please rephrase what you want me to respond to
B) yes, yes i am. Sig Heil! Down with jews!
TJS0110 said:The bible sais love your neighbor as yourself how can you be a nazi(who hates Jews) and say you catholic?
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Jesus said to them, "Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.
Bestial_Pagan said:To me eternity is undivided nothingness. And existence is a limitation, this goes for god too, he did act, created. nothingness=fulness.
Bestial_Pagan said:Eternal nothingness is full of possibilities. Especially possibility for peace:mrgreen:
TJS0110 said:Jesus also said that everyone is your neighbor(everyone not just people who think like you) Besides its not your place to judge whos right or wrong its Gods.
Whoever believes in him will not be condemned, but whoever does not believe has already been condemned, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.
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Do not think that I will accuse you before the Father: the one who will accuse you is Moses, in whom you have placed your hope.
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For if you had believed Moses, you would have believed me, because he wrote about me.
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But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe my words?"
Bestial_Pagan said:Did You know when getting to black hole, after singularity point all these physics laws don´t matter, they don´t work. Maybe eternity is there?
Bestial_Pagan said:Scholastic do You believe in big bang theory?
Scholastic how can you be so sure. We now know far more about the universe than the writers of the Bible. 100 billion galaxies with 100 billion stars & you say no other sentient life !Scholastic said:whoooah, lets be clear on something. I don't have to accept anything. I accept Aquinean logic, Catholic Doctrine, and the bible. Anything that goes against that must be declared inherintly wrong. For example, there is no such thing as aliens. John 1:1. God's creation is described as the following: "And what came to be through him was the life, and the life was the light of the human race. The light shines in darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it" Because Humans are described as light in darkness, and darkness is often symbolic for emptiness and void, it must be declared that humans alone have the title of "sentient life" in this universe.
robin said:Scholastic how can you be so sure. We now know far more about the universe than the writers of the Bible. 100 billion galaxies with 100 billion stars & you say no other sentient life !
One other thing... are you a Nazi ?
A Christian Nazi perhaps ?
Insanity squared :lol:
Scholastic said:Concerning unbelievers and heretics: They are nothing but walking corpses. This goes especially for jews.
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