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Ted Koppel slams Fox News for being as partisan and biased as MSNBC

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Over half of Fox's programming is commentary as opposed to news. That commentary is quite partisan. So yes, I agree with Ted on this one.
 
megaprogman said:
Over half of Fox's programming is commentary as opposed to news. That commentary is quite partisan. So yes, I agree with Ted on this one.
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My God what a false statement. Care to back that up?
 
texmaster said:
My God what a false statement. Care to back that up?
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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/12/business/media/12fox.html


So, according to fox, they broadcast 9 hours of news programming a weekday, which is where that "more than half" deal comes from. To make it a better comparison, we should subtract out the hours of repeat programming from 11pm-3am and 4am-6am, which puts the news programming at exactly half.

Although I hardly consider even their "news" anchors to be objective. Listen to Megyn Kelly for 20 minutes and you'll see what I'm talking about.
 
Did anyone actually READ the linked piece in the OP?


The Op should probably have read their own linked piece, then linked directly to the Post's piece, assuming their intent was to agree with Ted. Instead, they link to a piece that disagrees strenuously with Ted and his opinions.

Kind of an odd article to link to in this case.
 
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Utter BS.

Fox does straight news, and when it comes time for the prime time partisan commentary, they make no false pretenses otherwise. They cover the markets, world and U.S. events, etc, like a solid news network should, and at night, they go entertainment with a conservative slant. Simple.

MSNBC has one mode and one mode only. Attack George Bush and conservatism 24 hours a day. Nothing more.
 

Looking at MSNBC's program lineup. On their weekday programming, they have about 8 hours of news and 9 hours of commentary. So its pretty even with Fox.

MSNBC - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Their weekend schedule isn't very concrete and is hard to analyze.
 
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Please. You think their "news" programming is "straight news?" No commentary or bias mixed in?

:lamo
 
Try the BBC or Aljazeera or RT or any foreign news service really. I'm not sure if the US has real news anymore.
 
Deuce said:
Please. You think their "news" programming is "straight news?" No commentary or bias mixed in?

:lamo
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Their hard news is as straight and down the middle as any TV news in the country.
 
Fox opinion shows have guests/panels with liberals.
Even the comedy show Red Eye has a full time liberal, and lots of liberal guests.
That leaves Glenn Becks show. His show is not news at all.
And Geraldo Rivera has his own show. Not sure what he is but, but he's not a conservative.
I also don't consider Shep Smith, straight news. He leans way left, in my opinion.
Is Koppel getting his information from Media Matters? He either doesn't watch Fox, or he is intentionally lying.
 
There is only one real respectable person on Fox that does news and that is Chris Wallace. Everyone else on most of the 24 hour news station is a joke.
 
soccerboy22 said:
There is only one real respectable person on Fox that does news and that is Chris Wallace. Everyone else on most of the 24 hour news station is a joke.
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Nah Shep Smith is a good guy and very centrist. I wish he would wear less makeup though.
 
megaprogman said:
Over half of Fox's programming is commentary as opposed to news. That commentary is quite partisan. So yes, I agree with Ted on this one.
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I don't agree with Ted on this one.. he is another one suffernig from "Fox Media Phobia" just because Fox exposes politicians and gives people the "REAL" news and is not in bed with Obama like the other media is.
 
Red Crow said:
I don't agree with Ted on this one.. he is another one suffernig from "Fox Media Phobia" just because Fox exposes politicians and gives people the "REAL" news and is not in bed with Obama like the other media is.
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You should look at the chart I have linked to. It clearly delineates which programming blocks are news and which are commentary.
 
Red Crow said:
I don't agree with Ted on this one.. he is another one suffernig from "Fox Media Phobia" just because Fox exposes politicians and gives people the "REAL" news and is not in bed with Obama like the other media is.
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:lamo :lamo :lamo


Political entertainers on both are dishonest, disingenuous and don't expose anything to speak of.
 
Red Crow said:
I don't agree with Ted on this one.. he is another one suffernig from "Fox Media Phobia" just because Fox exposes politicians and gives people the "REAL" news and is not in bed with Obama like the other media is.
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But they are in bed with the Republicans so... Ted Koppel is right and this regard that our new stations suck because it is biased. We have more political pundit time than we do actual news time. And then when people are asked about either news channels they think of the pundits. And I am not saying this to just rag on Fox, but people need to realize that just because one station says what you like doesn't mean it is not biased.
 
megaprogman said:
Nah Shep Smith is a good guy and very centrist. I wish he would wear less makeup though.
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Smith is a pain to listen to and at times he reminds me of Bill O'Reilly. Chris Wallace is the last in a breed of good interviewers and actual news reporters. Although not even Chris Wallace could hold a candle to the guy who use to anchor Face of the Nation.
 

I have always like his style. I guess to me his condescencion was more against idiots than anything else. Also he swerves both right and left at times, which is why I see him as pretty much centrist.

However I was not aware of him running over people. :shock:
 
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