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Syrian ingnites bomb in Ansbach (Bavaria) Germany, kills self, injures 12

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/25/bomb-attack-southern-germany

27 year old asylum seeker from Syria whose application was rejected but whose stay was nevertheless "tolerated" (Germany sends no one back to a war zone) tried to get into a music festival, was refused entry and blew himself up, injuring 12 others, 3 of them seriously.

Where jihadist background cannot be confirmed it can't be ruled out either (the bomb was filled with "metal parts") and where the man had tried to commit suicide twice before and had been in psychiatric treatment, why use a maximum damage device this time if this was just going to be his third attempt?

Of course he could have just decided to have many share his plight and just had neither a pilot's licence nor a job with German Wings.

Story still unfolding but it's clear that he wanted to get into the music festival where the explosion would have killed many others as well.
 

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The Guardian? Shouldn't we wait for a real source?
 

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/25/bomb-attack-southern-germany

27 year old asylum seeker from Syria whose application was rejected but whose stay was nevertheless "tolerated" (Germany sends no one back to a war zone) tried to get into a music festival, was refused entry and blew himself up, injuring 12 others, 3 of them seriously.

Where jihadist background cannot be confirmed it can't be ruled out either (the bomb was filled with "metal parts") and where the man had tried to commit suicide twice before and had been in psychiatric treatment, why use a maximum damage device this time if this was just going to be his third attempt?

Of course he could have just decided to have many share his plight and just had neither a pilot's licence nor a job with German Wings.

Story still unfolding but it's clear that he wanted to get into the music festival where the explosion would have killed many others as well.

It's much too early, but the indications might be indicatimg that the immigrant population or at least some of them feel themselves in a hopeless situation and a small number is committing spectacular suicide.
 

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Wow, this is getting ridiculous isn't it?
 

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I think the most terrifying/confusing part of it all is he was denied entry to the festival for simply not having a ticket. If he did have a ticket the local police commissioner has already said it could've been much, much worse.
 

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Horrible news, thoughts to the wounded. This is all far too commonplace now.
 

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Don't worry everyone he was just mentally unstable.
 

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Don't worry everyone he was just mentally unstable.

Exactly. I find it bizarre the length some people go to avoid using the word terrorism. Moreover, as some kind of defence they'll not see the paradox of suggesting he has mental health problems; when you have to ask yourself, is a person ever of the right mind when carrying out these kinds of act? The tragedy of what is unfolding in Germany is nothing less than many of us predicted. Merkel has a lot to answer for. And people are at a loss to explain the rise of the far right!
 

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It's much too early, but the indications might be indicatimg that the immigrant population or at least some of them feel themselves in a hopeless situation and a small number is committing spectacular suicide.

The sad thing, is such an act is anything but 'spectacular '. If you allow a massive influx of damaged people, where this behaviour has become normal, then expect a whole lot more.
 

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The sad thing, is such an act is anything but 'spectacular '. If you allow a massive influx of damaged people, where this behaviour has become normal, then expect a whole lot more.

That was my first thought, when Merkel announced the "welcome" policy. I actually talked with a handful of German politicians and university types at the time and they would hear nothing of it.
 

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I think the most terrifying/confusing part of it all is he was denied entry to the festival for simply not having a ticket. If he did have a ticket the local police commissioner has already said it could've been much, much worse.

After a year's planing, not having a ticket is not very professional.
 

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That was my first thought, when Merkel announced the "welcome" policy. I actually talked with a handful of German politicians and university types at the time and they would hear nothing of it.

Analogous to such events was the amount of migrants that came to the UK, in a short time period. The politicians buried their heads and refused to discuss the issue. Boom! Fast forward 10yrs and we're out of Europe because of, IMO, this single issue.
 

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Analogous to such events was the amount of migrants that came to the UK, in a short time period. The politicians buried their heads and refused to discuss the issue. Boom! Fast forward 10yrs and we're out of Europe because of, IMO, this single issue.

I am sure that it is, if not the only major issue, then certainly one of the deciding points. I do not think that bringing in the Poles was economically bad, from the research I have read. But it was rally badly explained to the population and exacerbated by the poor EU regulation on the matter.
 

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I am sure that it is, if not the only major issue, then certainly one of the deciding points. I do not think that bringing in the Poles was economically bad, from the research I have read. But it was rally badly explained to the population and exacerbated by the poor EU regulation on the matter.

It's probably the most difficult thing to explain to an already squeezed member of the polity, that further pressure on your job, housing and school places for your kids, is in any way good for you!
 

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It's probably the most difficult thing to explain to an already squeezed member of the polity, that further pressure on your job, housing and school places for your kids, is in any way good for you!

Especially, when all larger parties have for years been telling these voters how social programs are great, health care is wonderful and schools should be free. How do the politicians want to explain that they knew it was coming?
 

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The German police says it have 410 leads on possible terrorists among refugees- German police have 410 leads on possible terrorists among refugees: newspaper | Reuters.
Seems they have a little bit of work to do.

Yes, they have begun to acknowledge the problem, if not that it was severely negligent to take the immigrants in the way they did. This is yet another lie coming home to roost by undermining legitimacy. It is a reason for the extent of populist drumming of praise on government controlled radio and TV.
 

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The sad thing is anyone that dared speak up last year during the whole social media inspired "save the refugee's" was deemed a nationalist or racist. To an extend still are as we saw during the Brexit debates.
I read an article about this couple days ago, it says you can't change state of mind of the generations that came after the World War 2 because of the way it shapes back in the days, and right now they are the ones that in the positions to make decisions . The change in the state of mind probably will be made by the Y generation and the one after him due to the same reason above.
 

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The sad thing, is such an act is anything but 'spectacular '. If you allow a massive influx of damaged people, where this behaviour has become normal, then expect a whole lot more.
Linking the last three attacks in Germany (not saying that that's what you're doing) to the "opening of the gates" of September last year doesn't factually work though. Even the "newest" of the lot (the Würzburg train axe man) arrived months before that act, this bomber guy here two years ago. The Munich kid arrived from the womb, obviously.

None of that takes anything from the "problematics" though.

Meanwhile this guy here had a declaration on his cellphone in which he declares vengeance upon Germany for killing Muslims and expresses allegiance to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. Further phones found in his dwellings showed IS propaganda videos as well a DIY instructions for building IEDs. That doesn't leave much room for doubt as to his origins of thinking.
 

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Wow, this is getting ridiculous isn't it?

Imagine how ridiculous this is going to get when it starts happening in US. We have so many armed citizens who may start joining militias again, if reports circulate about terror attacks occurring every few days.
 

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Linking the last three attacks in Germany (not saying that that's what you're doing) to the "opening of the gates" of September last year doesn't factually work though. Even the "newest" of the lot (the Würzburg train axe man) arrived months before that act, this bomber guy here two years ago. The Munich kid arrived from the womb, obviously.

None of that takes anything from the "problematics" though.

Meanwhile this guy here had a declaration on his cellphone in which he declares vengeance upon Germany for killing Muslims and expresses allegiance to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. Further phones found in his dwellings showed IS propaganda videos as well a DIY instructions for building IEDs. That doesn't leave much room for doubt as to his origins of thinking.

And the Nice attacker migrated to France 11 years ago. Anyone from a Muslim background may eventually turn to terrorism, if life doesn't go the way they want it too.
 

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Analogous to such events was the amount of migrants that came to the UK, in a short time period. The politicians buried their heads and refused to discuss the issue. Boom! Fast forward 10yrs and we're out of Europe because of, IMO, this single issue.

Nope. Still in Europe Gunner, just out of the EU. The Europhiliacs equating the two was just one of the hundreds of reasons I voted Leave. Alas, maddive inward migration off Muslims o the UK will continue - 'family reunification' and all that.
 
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