James D Hill
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It wasn't the fact the cops were doing it as it was who they were doing it to [mainly Blacks and Hispanics]
The fact that crime was at an all time low make one believe they were doing a :good_job:
It wasn't the fact the cops were doing it as it was who they were doing it to [mainly Blacks and Hispanics]
The fact that crime was at an all time low make one believe they were doing a :good_job:
And the fact that crime is at an all time low in many places without a stop and frisk policy is irrelevant!! :roll:
It wasn't the fact the cops were doing it as it was who they were doing it to [mainly Blacks and Hispanics]
The fact that crime was at an all time low make one believe they were doing a :good_job:
The unfair and racist stop and frisk laws of NYC are on the way out. A fedral court has put a stop to the practice and it is a good thing. No way a cop should search you for no reason looking for guns and pot. If a crme was commited then go for it but if not no search.
It will be interesting to see if the homicide and crime rate goes back up. But I always thought the Stop and Frisk was unconstitutional based on the profiling of minorities.
I've never heard of this before. Are we saying it is or recently was legal for NYC cops to frisk people without arresting them first?
The unfair and racist stop and frisk laws of NYC are on the way out. A fedral court has put a stop to the practice and it is a good thing. No way a cop should search you for no reason looking for guns and pot. If a crme was commited then go for it but if not no search.
yes.. it was, and still is, legal to frisk someone without arresting them.
they don't even need probable cause....
it's called a Terry stop.. and all that's needed is "reasonable suspicion of involvement in criminal activity"
I've never heard of this before. Are we saying it is or recently was legal for NYC cops to frisk people without arresting them first?
yes.. it was, and still is, legal to frisk someone without arresting them.
they don't even need probable cause....
it's called a Terry stop.. and all that's needed is "reasonable suspicion of involvement in criminal activity"
And "involvement" has a very loose definition
I think I'm more concerned with the term "reasonable suspicion"...but you are correct
they might as well drop all the jargon and call it a "cuz I said so search"
Yikes.
Next thing, you'll have to always carry ID. And hand it over when told to.
This is the sort of stuff that needs to be resisted and defied, loudly. Publicly.
good luck defying it...LEO loves it,those in power love it, and SCOTUS backs them up.
you got nuthin'... unless you are a minority
It is legal for the police to pat down someone they have stopped, even without probable cause, in order to ensure their safety
The problem was they were stopping black people in a disproportionate manner as a matter of policy
Unfortunately they were also violating a lot of people's constitutional rights.
Which is not a good thing.
It wasn't the fact the cops were doing it as it was who they were doing it to [mainly Blacks and Hispanics]
The fact that crime was at an all time low make one believe they were doing a :good_job:
It wasn't the fact the cops were doing it as it was who they were doing it to [mainly Blacks and Hispanics]
The fact that crime was at an all time low make one believe they were doing a :good_job:
Or the fact that there are places with stop and frisk laws that don't violate the law (Philadelphia).
Good. I don't give a **** if it was racial profiling or not, stop and frisk should be a no-go without actual cause.
It is legal for the police to pat down someone they have stopped, even without probable cause, in order to ensure their safety
The problem was they were stopping black people in a disproportionate manner as a matter of policy
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