I want an honest and mature discussion on this issue. What do you think of this?
Does anyone have any thoughts on this issue, or do you have no words to express yourself?
This is the first time I have ever seen/heard of anything like this and honestly, my first reaction is what a bunch of crazy people.
I would suggest the effects are similar in nature to the Sufi mystics and whirling dervishes
I think it's not a very effective means of communicating. Why speak at all, if people won't understand you?
On the other hand, would you say that if a person DOES NOT "speak in tongues," that they have not had a true conversion experience?
I think it's not a very effective means of communicating. Why speak at all, if people won't understand you?
Based on the entirety of the Book of Acts and Jesus's words, I would think so.
Based on the entirety of the Book of Acts and Jesus's words, I would think so.
On the link I provided in the OP, the brain waves controlling speech of those Speaking in Tongues was not activated, yet those of other religions were. Would we be able to see the brain-speech waves of others outside of those Speaking in Tongues?
So based on this interpretation not speaking in tongues would have dire ramifications that extend beyond ones earthly experience.. yeah no pressure there. This is not divine intervention, this is the mind trying to keep its sanity in light of an overwhelming burden.
Ok, which words and scripture would those be exactly? BTW I think that was actually my quote which you attributed to Panache, just saying.
I would expect Sufi`s would have different brain waves when engaged in the trances they enter. Buddist monks deep in meditation will also have strange brain waves. Given that they are not particulary talking at those times the patterns would be different from those speaking in tongues,
The tongue speakers are not having to concentrate on forming coherent sentences and syntax and stringing a series of precise definitions in sequence, they just need to assemble a string of syllables and intonations, this is more similar to a jazz singer singing scat, it is not really that demanding linguistically, it is just an assembly of sounds.
Mm. Read the Book of Acts. You must have the indwelling of the Holy Ghost and be able to Speak in Tongues.
So you think it utter nonsense? I suppose that is a reasonable response from an unbeliever.
I have, more than once. Can you provide specific words of Christ or scripture which says that one must "speak in tongues" in order to receive salvation?
* Mark 16:17, which records the instructions of Christ to the apostles, including his description that "they will speak with new tongues" as a sign that would follow "them that believe" in him.
* Acts 2, which describes an occurrence of speaking in tongues in Jerusalem at Pentecost, though with various interpretations.
* Acts 10:46, when the household of Cornelius in Caesarea spoke in tongues, and those present compared it to the speaking in tongues that occurred at Pentecost.
* Acts 19:6, when a group of approximately a dozen men spoke in tongues in Ephesus as they received the Holy Spirit while the apostle Paul laid his hands upon them.
* 1 Cor 12, 13, 14, where Paul discusses speaking in "various kinds of tongues" as part of his wider discussion of the gifts of the Spirit; his remarks shed some light on his own speaking in tongues as well as how the gift of speaking in tongues was to be used in the church.
What do you know of it? First is the baptism of water, then the repentance of sin and the infilling of the Holy Ghost.
In the book of Acts, the apostles were filled with the Holy Ghost and spoke in Tongues over 2,000 years ago. They do so today, and are ridiculed just as those in the past.
People say they lie or act; that it is all a facade. My parents have it, as well as some of my friends. I suppose they are facadal? That the hundreds of thousands of them are facadal?
Why have I heard discussions of people from foreign nations that can hear segments of their language in those who Speak in Tongues?
Here is a link I found on a liberal-biased news show that discussed the issue: YouTube - Speaking in Tongues Medical Study proves Holy Spirit praying I tell you this news show is not biased for those who Speak in Tongues.
Will you say they are "drunk", as was said 2,000 years ago?
I want an honest and mature discussion on this issue. What do you think of this?
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