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Spanking: Is it still an effective method of discipline?

Your attitudes about spanking


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you don't "hit" kids

you spank/discipline them

if you don't know the difference you probably don't have kids imo

Spanking Hitting​

Spanking is generally considered a form of hitting, though many people use the term "spanking" to minimize the perception of violence. According to various studies and expert opinions, spanking can lead to more aggressive behavior in children and does not effectively improve their behavior in the long term.

Some argue that there is a moral issue with hitting children, as society agrees that hitting is not an acceptable way for adults to resolve conflicts. Additionally, physical punishment is associated with increased risks of mental health issues and long-term behavioral problems.

While corporal punishment is legal in all 50 states as long as it is not excessive, many experts recommend alternative forms of discipline that do not involve physical force.6 Positive reinforcement and other non-violent methods are often suggested as more effective and safer approaches to discipline.47

In summary, while the terms "spanking" and "hitting" may be used differently in everyday language, from a legal and ethical standpoint, spanking is indeed a form of hitting.

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I am open minded about it. There are better ways to take your children into public if you’re willing to put in the effort.

The assumption and subsequent judgement that the only reason to put a leash on a kid is that one is not "willing to put in the effort" is where you're not being open minded. I'm not saying that doesn't happen, but I would suggest that there are situations where it isn't happening.

It's too easy to make broad statements, bud, but it's also easy to avoid. Maybe ask? Could be that a lot of other stuff was tried, and this was the best option. There's likely a story in there that you don't know anything about. Before suggesting someone is a shitty parent, which is what would pop into most people's heads when hearing allegations of "low effort" parenting, perhaps do a bit of due diligence first, is all I'm saying. Give the respect you expect in return.
 

Spanking Hitting​

Spanking is generally considered a form of hitting, though many people use the term "spanking" to minimize the perception of violence. According to various studies and expert opinions, spanking can lead to more aggressive behavior in children and does not effectively improve their behavior in the long term.

Some argue that there is a moral issue with hitting children, as society agrees that hitting is not an acceptable way for adults to resolve conflicts. Additionally, physical punishment is associated with increased risks of mental health issues and long-term behavioral problems.

While corporal punishment is legal in all 50 states as long as it is not excessive, many experts recommend alternative forms of discipline that do not involve physical force.6 Positive reinforcement and other non-violent methods are often suggested as more effective and safer approaches to discipline.47

In summary, while the terms "spanking" and "hitting" may be used differently in everyday language, from a legal and ethical standpoint, spanking is indeed a form of hitting.

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meh .... liberals use "hitting" to trigger emotional responses ..... hitting brings up visions of a closed fist to the face

spanking isn't anything like hitting - sorry



I support parents raising their kids how they like and if they want to go easy on their kids and no spanking? go for it - they have only themselves to blame for behavior issues
 
Let me state this: Though retired I know quite a few kids and their parents. Kids nowadays are labeled as lazy, entitled, spoiled, and snarky.
Not my experience. I could post dozens of studies that show that children that are spanked are actually more likely to grow up wanting to spank their kids than parents who use other methods to discipline.

Of all the parents I know, none use spanking, and their kids are doing fine. Mind you, that is just from a casual observation, not exactly a scientific study.

Still................... spanking is still perceived as a necessary form of discipline. And arguments for and against can become quite intense. Typically "Don't tell me how to discipline my child!"

So, straight up, is spanking effective? Or, as it is happening in some countries, should be outlawed? Even if not outlawed, should it still be used as a form of discipline in this day and age?

This board is a bit left of Mao - obviously the results of the poll will reflect the extreme left bias of this site.
 
This board is a bit left of Mao - obviously the results of the poll will reflect the extreme left bias of this site.
So, your only reason for popping on here is to whine about the left? No opinion about the topic itself?
 
I never spanked either of my two boys

They both turned into responsible, hard working young men
 
meh .... liberals use "hitting" to trigger emotional responses ..... hitting brings up visions of a closed fist to the face

spanking isn't anything like hitting - sorry



I support parents raising their kids how they like and if they want to go easy on their kids and no spanking? go for it - they have only themselves to blame for behavior issues
For a small child, any hitting by someone 5 times their size is very scary. It has also proven to not work. The child just won't do that behavior when you're around. They will also learn than might makes right, and carry that into their interactions as adults- both at home and work, perpetuating the dysfunction and misery.

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  • Numerous studies have found that physical punishment increases the risk of broad and enduring negative developmental outcomes.
  • No study has found that physical punishment enhances developmental health.
  • Most child physical abuse occurs in the context of punishment.
  • A professional consensus is emerging that parents should be supported in learning nonviolent, effective approaches to discipline."


 
This board is a bit left of Mao - obviously the results of the poll will reflect the extreme left bias of this site.

So now not beating and terrorizing your children is a bit left of Mao? 🤔
 
Dad used a belt and switch on me once of twice - I was a good kid, I didn't need much discipline though



I know a lot of parents who didn't spank/discipline .... I can think of none of them that didn't have behavior problem with their kids
I know a lot of parents who didn't spake/discipline too- I can think of none of them where they had a problem with their kids.
 
I support parents raising their kids how they like and if they want to go easy on their kids and no spanking? go for it - they have only themselves to blame for behavior issues
Damn, that is one sorry excuse for a rebuttal since it has no basis in fact. OF course posting ANYTHING that might require you to read and learn about the effects of spanking will be dismissed by you as........
meh .... liberals
It is a lazy rebuttal.

I did post the following for another poster on here:
I KNOW you won't read any of the material in the following link:
Spanking: How We Have Normalized Hitting Our Kids and Why We Need to Stop – Psychology in Action And the little bit that you might read you will belittle because what is contained within that link will hit a nerve.
But if you actually cared about the subject, you would read that link and many others that speak to the effects of spanking.
As for my logical fallacy, don't be too sure of yourself. A light spanking that is done on very rare occasions is quite different from using spanking as a form of discipline. AND on that note the spanking is done more for the relief of the parent than for the benefit of the child. AND if a person thinks that spanking for discipline is a good form of discipline, then yes, it isn't a stretch that such a person would consider it also a good form of discipline on other family members.
I would urge you to seriously click on the link. The vast majority of medical, scientific, and psychological studies have indicted that spanking causes MORE "behavior issues" than not spanking. So you made a comment with NO back up to support your claim.

Sorry that I have to read such asinine rebuttals. One can discuss the merits of spanking and disagree with each other without the stupid partisan slant of...............
meh .... liberals
When I am sure there are plenty of conservative parents who don't spank their children.

Can you NOT get liberals out of your head for just one thread? Do liberals live rent free in your head? Asking seriously.
 
I know a lot of parents who didn't spake/discipline too- I can think of none of them where they had a problem with their kids.
He just wanted to say something about liberals because that is his default position. With some regulars on here you can't discuss a topic in a civil manner without them going off on their partisan rants.
 
Let me state this: Though retired I know quite a few kids and their parents. Kids nowadays are labeled as lazy, entitled, spoiled, and snarky.
Not my experience. I could post dozens of studies that show that children that are spanked are actually more likely to grow up wanting to spank their kids than parents who use other methods to discipline.

Of all the parents I know, none use spanking, and their kids are doing fine. Mind you, that is just from a casual observation, not exactly a scientific study.

Still................... spanking is still perceived as a necessary form of discipline. And arguments for and against can become quite intense. Typically "Don't tell me how to discipline my child!"

So, straight up, is spanking effective? Or, as it is happening in some countries, should be outlawed? Even if not outlawed, should it still be used as a form of discipline in this day and age?

Your kid mouths off, or they won't do their homework, or they forgot to turn off the light in the garage, etc.
These aren't reasons to spank a child.

The only reasons I've ever had to raise my hand to administer corporal punishment were maybe two (three?) in the entire time I was bringing up baby.

1. My son was throwing rocks at the neighbor's house, and on a dozen occasions we told him to stop.
We sat him down, explained why it was wrong, explained why it makes him look like a bad person, explained that the neighbors have never said or done anything to deserve their house being pelted. Etc etc etc.

2. Then not only did he insist on throwing more rocks, when the "Mrs" of the house asked him to stop, he mouthed off at her pretty harshly and returned to throw more rocks and this time he broke a window. He was seven at the time, so he was at the age of reason.

We finally had to warm his hide a little bit, nothing drastic, it was less physical pain and more an attention call than anything else, but sure, he wailed.
Then we dried his tears and reassured him we still loved him but he now knew he had crossed a line.

3. Same boy, but on an earlier occasion, age four, he began running into the street without even looking.
We told him he was not allowed to just run across the street. Not only was he not looking, he wasn't even asking and he actually encountered a car that had to screech to a halt.

So, after repeated warnings I had to warm his butt a little, same aftermath, reassurance and explaning that he had done something downright hazardous to his health, scared the crap out of his mother, etc.

That's it, that's the two times I had to resort to such a thing, and thankfully we never had to resort to spanking our daughter.
She tried our patience on a few occasions but never actually endangered herself or others, just teen girl angsty stuff and Karen knew how to deal with that, and I actually managed to help a little bit even if it was just to make everyone laugh and defuse the situation.

Spanking is most definitely a less is more thing, and you might be lucky and never have to do it, and I want that for every parent and every kid.
But we hoomin beans aren't perfect, and when you have just scooped your kid out of the street after a car almost flattened them, sometimes emotions get the better of you.

That was me...
"Oh shit, the lil booger ran out into the street again, holy crap (SCREEEEEECH!!!!) come here, you."

(WHACK WHACK WHACK) "I said don't run out into the street and I meant it, you're gonna get run over by a car and it's gonna hurt a hundred times more than me busting your butt!"

I got spanked a lot when I was little. I was a hellion sometimes, but I sometimes got spanked for minor transgressions and I never wanted to continue that nonsense.
I actually thought I would manage to avoid ever spanking either kid. Oh well.
Neither of them held it against me, my kids were angels and they've told me they loved me many times, and I wasn't even their biological daddy.
But they're MY kids alright, bio-daddy is out of the picture entirely and has been for a very long time.
 
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All I've tried to ask, respectfully is what happens when one world intersects another world. Your child had to wander off to get hurt. There are plenty of places in this world where you don't have to wander off to get hurt. There are places where if you don't remain vigilant the world will wander in and give you a dose of reality
Don’t put kids in those environments 🤷‍♀️

It really is that simple.

You gave the example of being in an auto body shop.

Little kids don’t belong in those environments. Not until they can appreciate the danger of it.

We run FISHING businesses. It’s dangerous.

My son wasn’t allowed near ANY of the gear until he appreciated the danger. We didn’t take him out in the ocean in the boats and fishing until we knew he was capable of grasping the danger and listening. I trained him from when he was in a car seat that getting out of the car at the marina = put on a life jacket. (Because 🤷‍♀️ he could easily walk off the edge of a dock or slip and wind up in the water)

Because the ocean is unforgiving and doesn’t care if a toddler wasn’t paying attention.

Your job as the parent is to make the decision based on your kiddo - as to what is/isn’t safe and what your kid is/isn’t capable of appreciating and teach them before you put them in situations where bad things can happen. Adults have a lot of control over what environment kids are in.

Basically you are the privileged speaking down to the underprivileged. It's your right to do that but your judgement should be reserved
There’s nothing about privileged vs. not privileged when it comes to hitting a kid vs. discipline in some other fashion.

You don’t need money to talk to your kid and be consistent and set boundaries and enforce rules.

I’ve known numerous grown adults that WERE physically spanked and disciplined as children purposefully make the decisions NOT to parent that way.

I was never spanked. I don’t understand the rationale behind it and I don’t raise my child that way. And I’ve yet to hear anyone present a cogent reason why physically spanking a child is a valid or necessary form of discipline.

How do you put a kid in the timeout corner when there are eight people living in that two bedroom apartment or when they are sharing their room with three other siblings
You sit the kid somewhere and say “Johnny is in a time out…leave them sit there for a minute and go do something else unless you care to find yourself also in a time out”

🤷‍♀️

Time outs don’t last for hours - they last for about as many minutes as the kid is old when they’re a toddler.

Past the point of toddlerhood, time outs aren’t really an effective method of discipline and punishment. As toddlers, the point of using a time out is to give the kiddo a “reset” and get them out of their current mood, frame of mind, etc so that you can explain to them what they did wrong when they are calm and actually listening.

I'm not saying you’re defending yourself from your kid. I'm saying if your kid has zero experience with any sort of violence or aggression in life what happens when that violence or aggression comes to them
My son was 3 years old in preschool when he was taught “lights out, hide, be quiet”. Kids today grow up knowing that there is violence in the world. And that bad things and violence can happen. They don’t need their parents to spank them to learn that.
 
If you wouldn't hit another adult (for reasons other than self defense/defense of another) why would you hit a child?
 
No. I don’t agree with spanking. I can see swatting the hand of a toddler that’s reaching for a hot stove, etc but that’s about the extent of it.

That's how I feel. Hot stove, sticking a fork into an electric outlet, almost getting hit by a car...sometimes it's too much but I think spanking in general is a parental failure more than anything else.
 
I think also taking the time ahead of time to explain rules and expectations is also critical.

My kid probably thinks I’m a broken record or <insert Gen Alpha term for lame here> but to this day, we will be going somewhere and I will say in the car

“Now, what are the rules”

He rolls his eyes and tells me the rules.

🤷‍♀️

OMG my daughter was THE eye rolling CHAMPION, I think she rolled them so far back she could see her brain.
 
So, your only reason for popping on here is to whine about the left? No opinion about the topic itself?

I wonder how many children have died because parents bought into leftist idiocy and failed to spank them when they ran into a busy street without looking, or snuck into the backyard pool without supervision?

If just one life is saved by spanking, it's worth it.
 
Only as a final resort have I smacked my child on the butt. I can count on one hand how many times that I felt it was necessary. For me it was for shock value as it was done so rarely.
If you're talking about putting a kid over your knee and smacking a bunch of times, no. I don't agree with 'spanking' in that manner.

See this is why I love you, you Long Island momma 😍
I was struggling for the right word, and SHOCK VALUE was the word I was searching for.
On the couple-three occasions I did spank them, it was less about inflicting physical pain and more about forcing them to register the shock value.
 
Dad used a belt and switch on me once of twice - I was a good kid, I didn't need much discipline though

I never understood that. Why would someone use a weapon against a child. Even paddles, which my mother used, are hard to justify.

I know a lot of parents who didn't spank/discipline .... I can think of none of them that didn't have behavior problem with their kids

If a child needs to be spanked past 6 years of age, the parent has already failed.

Spanking establishes authority and discipline. Once established, they last a lifetime.
 
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