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Spain Signals New Hard Line Stance On Gibraltar


I don't even think the far right loonies will get violent over Gibraltar
 
Higgins86 said:
I don't even think the far right loonies will get violent over Gibraltar
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Depends on how much media it gets.. loonies tend to get violent over "media events capable" things, and the Rock aint one.. it has already pretty much died down... and this was off the comments of one man and was blown up by the British government and the media. Not seen much about it in Spain tbh, a few mentions sure, but wall to wall hourly coverage as in the UK media.. hardly. Maybe Andalublue has seen more than I have on Spanish TV, as I am not glued to it.
 

I doubt the "Spanish extremists" will do anti-British violence because of this.. after all there is plenty of reason outside this to go after the British on the Costa, and there is rarely any violence other than drunken idiots skirmishes.. usually between Brits ironically enough.

I mean everyone in Spain I have spoken too, all agree that it is just a ploy to get attention away from the slush fund scandal that has hit the PP (ruling conservative government party) and Prime Minister.. and that comes from a lot of present supporters of the PP who are ashamed of how the Prime Minister has handled the scandal and his defiant performance in parliament the other day. The latest polls are catastrophic for PP and the Prime Minister... 1/3 of the votes from the last election are gone.. that is a massive loss.

But lets look at the timing.

Rojay has been under fire because he has not come with comments about the scandal. He finally goes before parliament and is defiant as hell... that was 5 days ago. 4 days ago the whole Gibraltar situation blows up in the British media and some what in the Spanish.. hmmm odd timing no? It is also convenient for the Cameron government to have such a case, as they need distraction from the lobbying scandal that the UK media has pretty much ignored since the birth of the new Prince.. and since that coverage died down, then there was sniffing around again and hence the Tories needed a new distraction and along came Gibraltar. It is funny to see Cameron and co going from distraction to distraction .. and a sad since it seems to work and the British media are willing pawns in his mind games.

I mean what ever happened to the whole censor the internet porn issue? Oh yea it disappeared and Cameron pulled back as soon as Kate started getting contractions. This will go the same way, since it is a weak story (unless there is an exaltation.. like warships on both sides sent to the area) , so his government is looking for other distractions.. bet he is hoping for a terror attack on British assets somewhere.. sounds morbid, but that would take up weeks of media time. Yes that is how much faith I have in that man and his government.
 

Nah, it's page 4 at best. CanalSur did a big report on it one day last week but it's hardly grabbing the headlines. Today's story was about a driver running over the foot of a Guardia on the border. It doesn't really have the sex appeal of a story about a royal pardon for a multiple paedophile.
 

Yea.. that is everywhere... and for clarification, it was a royal pardon in Morrocco by the King there, and mistaken release of a paedophile, who has now been arrested in Spain.
 
Red_Dave said:
I'm not even sure they know where it is to be fair.
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meh southern Spain is like their mecca. English pubs in the sun, fight the Germans over towels and then go out and get drunk and fight the "foreign" police
 
Still stories on British news, and relatively nothing in the Spanish media... really funny how the two have handled this.
 
PeteEU said:
Still stories on British news, and relatively nothing in the Spanish media... really funny how the two have handled this.
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There are more interesting stories in the Spanish news at the moment. It's the silly season in the UK.
 
Andalublue said:
There are more interesting stories in the Spanish news at the moment. It's the silly season in the UK.
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too be fair to the British press though its not like they made it up, if its silly season anywhere I would start with the source of the story.
 
Higgins86 said:
too be fair to the British press though its not like they made it up, if its silly season anywhere I would start with the source of the story.
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No but they continue to run with the story, when there is no story and that is... There was long lines 1 day, and it has been normal ever since. But yesterday we learned that with Breaking News that Cameron called the Spanish PM.. who the **** cares? It is hardly breaking news, and the story is a non story. The ones pushing fuel on the flames is the British, not the Spanish..
 
And this story is pretty much dead.. since it has come and bit Cameron in the butt.

It seems that he received a call from the French PM not long ago, because for 4 mile long queues at the French side of the border (in France) because of delays on the British side of the border.

So here we have the British complaining and blowing up a storm over a single day of long queues at Gibraltar, when they were the cause of multiple day queues at their own border.... and something that was not reported by the British media... tsk!
 



Beware the Spanish Armada. :mrgreen:
 
Goshin said:
Beware the Spanish Armada. :mrgreen:
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lol they learned their lesson the hard way plus the queen has the same namesake







here is the best part....whats that saying about people in glass houses?
 
Higgins86 said:
lol they learned their lesson the hard way plus the queen has the same namesake

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here is the best part....whats that saying about people in glass houses?
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Actually there are differences. Ceuta and Mellila. For example, who do you give it back too? Morocco did not exist when Spain got the areas from Portugal.

Not to mention that the people there would never want to be part of Morocco simply because Morocco is a 3rd world country vs Spain's 1st world status. With Gibraltar you have two 1st world countries so going from one to the other has minimal consequences.

And lets not forget... Ceuta and Mellila are official regions of Spain with all the privileges that entails. Gibraltar is a colony under the UK, and a massive tax haven. And it is especially the latter that will most likely assist Spain in its cause against the UK in the world opinion... tax havens are not exactly popular these days.

But talking about glass houses. Britain has a lot to explain about how they have acted over Gibraltar over the centuries... everything from stealing land to not living up to the Treaty of Utrecht, which clearly states that no Jews or Moors are allowed on the Rock.

Now if there was not two nationalistic boneheaded morons on each side (politically) then there might be a solution possible, but as long as they both use it as "an excuse case" to deflect away from political problems at home.. then well.
 
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PeteEU said:
Well then the UK and Cameron should not have escalated things by sending in military forces..

Plus the story is so minor in Spain that you have to actually search for it... it is a much bigger story in the UK, which is odd no?
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by esclating things you mean sending a warship which is routine in the region and pre-planned long before this issue?
This is a bigger issue in the British media because it directly affects British people but If its such a non issue in Spain why is Madrid beefing up broder controls and threatening to go the UN?
 
PeteEU said:
Plus the story is so minor in Spain that you have to actually search for it... it is a much bigger story in the UK, which is odd no?
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That's not entirely true. It made the front page of El País, and El Mundo today. Funnily enough, having breakfast in a bar in Ugíjar this morning I overheard a very heated discussion going on about Gib. That's the first time I've heard it being discussed in a long while.

The consensus was that the PP leaders nationally and the PSOE leaders in Andalucía should be parachuted onto The Rock and then prevented from re-entering Spain. Good for them, they would enjoy the tax-free status and the black economy, and good for Spain to concentrate as many fraudsters, tax dodgers and corrupt businesses in one place where they can do little harm. I thought that showed a lot of sense.
 
The Gibraltar Monkeys will rob you, anally rape you, and/or throw stuff at you, and for so long as they are there, Gibraltar will remain under British rule.
 

BBC News - What are the competing claims over Gibraltar?


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Higgins86 said:
by esclating things you mean sending a warship which is routine in the region and pre-planned long before this issue?
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I know, but it is very bad timing is it not?

This is a bigger issue in the British media because it directly affects British people but If its such a non issue in Spain why is Madrid beefing up broder controls and threatening to go the UN?
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Err the threat is coming via British media.. still not seen any here about that.

Also it is not beefing up border controls, it is meeting for once its requirements. Remember it is the UK that refused to join the Schengen agreement.

Listen I aint saying that the Spanish are not at fault, but I am saying that the British are acting all "oh I am a victim" bull****, when they know fully well what they have done and are doing would piss off the Spanish.
 
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