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Some here appear to not know what a lie is

Recently, at least three people, all of them known leftists, have contended certain things are "lies" and similar statements by known members of their side that are actually lies are ignored. I wouldn't make this OP if I wasn't flabbergasted at the apparent and obvious disconnect of many here and in the media as to what a lie is. I use the example of Dr, Fauci, who claims he is "Mr. Science" who intentionally and knowingly lied in March of 2020 when he said, "Masks do not provide the protection that people think they do and MAY stop only a few droplets." Many here have said "The science changed" when their people are caught in huge mistakes and falsehoods but true science never changes. Fake science does. We could chalk up his March of 2020 comment as a mistake IOF he didn't say a month later that he was worried about a run on medical masks leaving a shortage of masks for the medical community. This admission is him proving that he intentionally and knowingly lied a month earlier. Not only that, his lie jeopardized the lives of all of America because people did NOT wear masks for an entire month. In any event, this example is what a REAL lie is.

Contrast this with what liberals contend are lies by Trump where he said his crowd size was bigger than Obama's and they show pictures showing a smaller crowd size. Firstly the pictures may not have shown the full view or they could have been taken before all the people arrived at Trump's rally. In any event, there is no way to know if Trump had seen the pictures or made a headcount and Trump was just of the belief that his crowd size was larger. This statement of Trump is not a "lie", There were other equally vague examples involving Trump that the posters contend were lies and they are all the same. His OPINIONS and conjectures and beliefs are called "lies".

The same holds true with other conservatives the left hates. their opinions are called "lies" but those on the left who lie as I showed in the example of Fauci are ignored. So, I am wondering what criteria and proof the left accepts as being a lie.
One wonders if one has read Don Quixote.
 
Recently, at least three people, all of them known leftists, have contended certain things are "lies" and similar statements by known members of their side that are actually lies are ignored. I wouldn't make this OP if I wasn't flabbergasted at the apparent and obvious disconnect of many here and in the media as to what a lie is. I use the example of Dr, Fauci, who claims he is "Mr. Science" who intentionally and knowingly lied in March of 2020 when he said, "Masks do not provide the protection that people think they do and MAY stop only a few droplets." Many here have said "The science changed" when their people are caught in huge mistakes and falsehoods but true science never changes. Fake science does. We could chalk up his March of 2020 comment as a mistake IOF he didn't say a month later that he was worried about a run on medical masks leaving a shortage of masks for the medical community. This admission is him proving that he intentionally and knowingly lied a month earlier. Not only that, his lie jeopardized the lives of all of America because people did NOT wear masks for an entire month. In any event, this example is what a REAL lie is.

Contrast this with what liberals contend are lies by Trump where he said his crowd size was bigger than Obama's and they show pictures showing a smaller crowd size. Firstly the pictures may not have shown the full view or they could have been taken before all the people arrived at Trump's rally. In any event, there is no way to know if Trump had seen the pictures or made a headcount and Trump was just of the belief that his crowd size was larger. This statement of Trump is not a "lie", There were other equally vague examples involving Trump that the posters contend were lies and they are all the same. His OPINIONS and conjectures and beliefs are called "lies".

The same holds true with other conservatives the left hates. their opinions are called "lies" but those on the left who lie as I showed in the example of Fauci are ignored. So, I am wondering what criteria and proof the left accepts as being a lie.

Fauci secretly worked with the Jews to create a space laser.
 
A question that pops up in my head is why Fauci would lie? His reputation as a scientist is on the line. WTH?
 
If it changes, it was WRONG and not science. It was opinion, conjecture, junk research, musings, hypotheticals. You folks just want to believe the junk "science" of the Faucis of the world because he is one of yours. He flies by the seat of his pants and changes the "science" more than Joe Biden changes his story about how come there are pictures of him golfing with the heads of Burisma.

When I was a kid , people would joke about the weatherman, that the forecast was usually wrong. Predicting where a hurricane would make landfall was also a big guess for them. Is an incomplete understanding necessarily wrong?
Slowly but certainly the accuracy of predictions has become quite reliable and hurricane path predictions are very accurate. Several things contributed to the change. Of course satellite imagery, computer modeling have changed their ability to predict weather in ways that contribute to our lives, much more than just wanting to know if it will rain on your picnic, agriculture, industry, fire prevention, and saving lives are a result.
Chaos theory now suggests that weather has an element of the math of random permutations and probabilities.
Meteorologists in the 1950's were not 'wrong' , their science was not ' wrong', because without their basic research foundation of understanding, we might still be guessing if it will rain on your parade.
 
Are you yet another poster here who doesn't know what a LIE is? Fauci admitted to it. What more do you need?
Believe it or not I don't stalk Dr. Fauci so I don't know what comments or admissions you're talking about.
You know, I don't mind the far-leftists here defending their own but when they defend the indefensible is where I have to think that person is downright intentionally dishonest.
What you find to be indefensible means **** all to me.
He IS Mr. Sciencve, according to him. There is no "science" that changed in one month. It wasn't a situation where he was unsure of masks at the time he said masks aren't needed. He was certain that they might stop only one droplet and essentially worthless. There was no question in the mind of that pompous ass. He stated it as if it was agreed on "science" and came from his vast knowledge of the medical field.
You don't even know what the **** science is so being completely clueless on how quickly information can change in an evolving global pandemic isn't at all surprising.
For all of you who now CLAIM that masks "work" to not be marching on his house demanding his arrest is a testament only to your ideology and protecting your own.
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What would he be arrested for?
read his statement of a month later where he says he was worried about a run on masks. Here people went a month without masks because of Mr. Science and died because he said they didn't work. This is an admission of a lie....not "just" a lie. Were this a conservative, you'd be all over it like a fat lady on a pizza.
Let's say he did lie (this is not an admission that he did), so what? Protecting ppe for front line workers so there wasn't a run on masks is essential in a global pandemic. His reason for lying in that instance would be to save more lives in the long run. We don't stomp our feet and demand the arrest of people doing the best they can in shitty situations. We often call for the arrest of conservatives because in shitty situations they are always still looking to grift.
I hope this helps you understand the difference between a LIE and a mistake, a guess, a projection or prediction, or an opinion.
Sometimes lying is just good public policy and sometimes it's just to feed the egos of orange clowns. I don't think there's anything I could say that would help you see the difference so I'm not even going to bother to try. I'm just going to keep pointing and laughing at you.
 
We fully understand that you don't believe you're lying. Being a Trumpster is a sick religion for you all.

You just "believe", no matter what.
Got it. Thanks for your useless opinion. I'll be sure not to watch for more from you.
 
Fauci secretly worked with the Jews to create a space laser.
Maybe he did. He also said the things I posted and certifiably lied. Are you yet another lefty who doesn't know the difference between a lie and a misstatement?
 
When I was a kid , people would joke about the weatherman, that the forecast was usually wrong. Predicting where a hurricane would make landfall was also a big guess for them. Is an incomplete understanding necessarily wrong?
Slowly but certainly the accuracy of predictions has become quite reliable and hurricane path predictions are very accurate. Several things contributed to the change. Of course satellite imagery, computer modeling have changed their ability to predict weather in ways that contribute to our lives, much more than just wanting to know if it will rain on your picnic, agriculture, industry, fire prevention, and saving lives are a result.
Chaos theory now suggests that weather has an element of the math of random permutations and probabilities.
Meteorologists in the 1950's were not 'wrong' , their science was not ' wrong', because without their basic research foundation of understanding, we might still be guessing if it will rain on your parade.
Thanks for letting us know you don't consider weathermen to be "scientists"
 
I know the posters who posted are far left.
Here is a link where Fausti claimed to be Mr. Science. Why is it you didn't know this? Are you badly unread?
Science doesn't change in a month. Opinions do.
I gave you chapter and verse of where Fauci ADMITTED to lying. Do you not read my post?
Trump hasn't lied and I ask you to prove he did and it wasn't his opinion or take on something
The left just regurgitates MSM. That's how millions of you were duped into believing Trump colluded.

So the OP, in an effort to keep humiliating himself, posts a link to a website called "We Love Trump".

And the rest of us continue to point and laugh at him.
 
Got it. Thanks for your useless opinion. I'll be sure not to watch for more from you.
My opinion is more valid than your boring whinefest about Fauci. Snore.

Let's talk about something more interesting....what do you think about Trump lying about the deadliness of Covid back in Feb and March 2020?
 
Believe it or not I don't stalk Dr. Fauci so I don't know what comments or admissions you're talking about.

What you find to be indefensible means **** all to me.

You don't even know what the **** science is so being completely clueless on how quickly information can change in an evolving global pandemic isn't at all surprising.

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What would he be arrested for?

Let's say he did lie (this is not an admission that he did), so what? Protecting ppe for front line workers so there wasn't a run on masks is essential in a global pandemic. His reason for lying in that instance would be to save more lives in the long run. We don't stomp our feet and demand the arrest of people doing the best they can in shitty situations. We often call for the arrest of conservatives because in shitty situations they are always still looking to grift.

Sometimes lying is just good public policy and sometimes it's just to feed the egos of orange clowns. I don't think there's anything I could say that would help you see the difference so I'm not even going to bother to try. I'm just going to keep pointing and laughing at you.
As I said, I loathe disingenuous people who defend the indefensible. He not only lied about masks, but he also admitted that he lied. I don't know what more anyone needs. You cannot trust anything a guy says who knowingly lies. He said he lied to save a run on masks. He did NOT say he lied because he didn't know how infectious COVID-19 was. If you are OK with people going without masks for a month because of his lie, then that's on you. Just don't ever complain about Trump not being a big fan of masks. Trump KNEW that Fausti was an effing LIAR!
 
Just like every shitty right wing trolling thread, pure projection. Right wingers don't know any facts so every stupid thing they believe is a lie
 
My opinion is more valid than your boring whinefest about Fauci. Snore.

Let's talk about something more interesting....what do you think about Trump lying about the deadliness of Covid back in Feb and March 2020?
Here we go with the leftist's deflection and diversion to Trump. Don't you guys tired of using Trump as a scapegoat? He has been out of the office for a year and a half now. His minimizing Covid was a way of consoling the public and caused NPO harm whatsoever. Trump is not a doctor and we know you "smart" libbies paid no attention to what he said.

On the other hand, people wore no mask for a month because Fausti (AKA: Mr. Science) said they didn't work, and here you are bitching about Trump (NOT a doctor) down[playing COVID so the public wouldn't freak out. I think the answer to this dichotomy is that all of you far-leftists KNOW masks aren't worth crap and therefore you know what Fausti said made no difference. For all the talk among the left that masks "work" it is all BS because none of you care that Fausti lied about masks and may have caused the lives of thousands because they believed him, being Mr. Science and all.
 
Just like every shitty right wing trolling thread, pure projection. Right wingers don't know any facts so every stupid thing they believe is a lie
Learn what a lie is yet?

Thought not.
 
Thanks for letting us know you don't consider weathermen to be "scientists"

That's a funny response, How did you misinterpret my post?

A meteorologist is a scientist. They have a way of learning from their mistakes. Revealing misunderstandings leads to new discoveries.
 
Recently, at least three people, all of them known leftists, have contended certain things are "lies" and similar statements by known members of their side that are actually lies are ignored. I wouldn't make this OP if I wasn't flabbergasted at the apparent and obvious disconnect of many here and in the media as to what a lie is. I use the example of Dr, Fauci, who claims he is "Mr. Science" who intentionally and knowingly lied in March of 2020 when he said, "Masks do not provide the protection that people think they do and MAY stop only a few droplets." Many here have said "The science changed" when their people are caught in huge mistakes and falsehoods but true science never changes. Fake science does. We could chalk up his March of 2020 comment as a mistake IOF he didn't say a month later that he was worried about a run on medical masks leaving a shortage of masks for the medical community. This admission is him proving that he intentionally and knowingly lied a month earlier. Not only that, his lie jeopardized the lives of all of America because people did NOT wear masks for an entire month. In any event, this example is what a REAL lie is.

Contrast this with what liberals contend are lies by Trump where he said his crowd size was bigger than Obama's and they show pictures showing a smaller crowd size. Firstly the pictures may not have shown the full view or they could have been taken before all the people arrived at Trump's rally. In any event, there is no way to know if Trump had seen the pictures or made a headcount and Trump was just of the belief that his crowd size was larger. This statement of Trump is not a "lie", There were other equally vague examples involving Trump that the posters contend were lies and they are all the same. His OPINIONS and conjectures and beliefs are called "lies".

The same holds true with other conservatives the left hates. their opinions are called "lies" but those on the left who lie as I showed in the example of Fauci are ignored. So, I am wondering what criteria and proof the left accepts as being a lie.
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“ true science never changes” has to be the most ignorant statement ever posted on this boar, and that’s saying a hell of a lot…
 
Here we go with the leftist's deflection and diversion to Trump. Don't you guys tired of using Trump as a scapegoat? He has been out of the office for a year and a half now. His minimizing Covid was a way of consoling the public and caused NPO harm whatsoever. Trump is not a doctor and we know you "smart" libbies paid no attention to what he said.
No, not when Trump lied about Covid and is responsible for hundreds of thousands of Covid deaths.

**** Trump.
 
As I said, I loathe disingenuous people who defend the indefensible.
And I said I don't really care what you find defensible or indefensible any more than I care for your opinion on key lime pie.
He not only lied about masks, but he also admitted that he lied. I don't know what more anyone needs. You cannot trust anything a guy says who knowingly lies. He said he lied to save a run on masks. He did NOT say he lied because he didn't know how infectious COVID-19 was. If you are OK with people going without masks for a month because of his lie, then that's on you.
Yes, that's kind of how opinions work. 😄 I get to not give a shit that he lied (if indeed he did) to protect the supply of PPE for front line workers.
Just don't ever complain about Trump not being a big fan of masks. Trump KNEW that Fausti was an effing LIAR!

1. Please, cry harder. 😄

2. Protecting the PPE supply is not the same as not knowing the benefits of covering your mouth or thinking bleach and a dewormer are effective treatments.

3. They'll never be equivalent no matter how hard you cry about it but hey, you never know until you try.

4. Pretty please try and cry harder. 😄
 
That's a funny response, How did you misinterpret my post?

A meteorologist is a scientist. They have a way of learning from their mistakes. Revealing misunderstandings leads to new discoveries.
Look, I know this is a diversionary tactic to have me go down a rabbit hole of what constitutes "science" because the spotlight shone on Fausti who thinks he IS "science" and is not welcome. It doesn't matter what is or what is not science. The thread is about what is a LIE and not what is "science". The question and premise are that the left, for whatever reason, has not been taught the difference between a lie and a mistake. Fausti ADMITTED to lying (an intentional and knowing falsehood) in order to save a run on medical masks. That was his admission............In essence saying, "I said it because I thought the stoopid people would rush out and buy up all the medical masks and I am the king and the peons must be kept from the truth."

This is what the left is all about today with their clamor for censorship of what THEY deem to be disinformation and keeping information from we, The People. We are treated like meek little sheep and we accept it like meek little sheep. We must be sheltered from the truth which the left calls disinformation and they claim the right to determine what that is by hiding behind the veil of "science" and when that "science' is proven wrong, they shrug and say the "science" has changed and don't have to show their work of how they came up with their alleged "science" of a month before.
 
The early anti-mask statements were clearly an attempt to avoid a mask buying frenzy among the general public, in order to conserve available resources for healthcare workers. Obviously, this approach failed, and was poorly conceived to begin with, as it resulted in the spread of disinformation, which continues to be parotted by the ignorant even to this day.
As a believer in masks, you are OK with Fausti NOT telling the truth as a "scientist" and duping the public? Those of us who disdain wearing masks because the chances of some idiot coughing and sneezing on us are as slim as Biden being right once, saw right through this ruse about masks and you call our views "disinformation" apparently because you think you get to determine what that is because you are a doctor. This is the problem in the world today. Someone on the left lies and endangers lives and it gets a shrug and someone on the right makes a mistake and that mistake is hammered on as a "lie".
 
You're wrong.

Nope. This is where you will lose every time.

Trump told Bod Woodward in a RECORDED interview in Feb 2020 that he knew Covid was deadly, but he continued to tell the American people that it would magically "disappear" and that very few people would die.

Like I said...your belief in Trump is a sick religion. Nothing more.
 
Right leaning person says something they don’t like it’s a lie. If a left leaning person says something completely untrue it’s a misstatement or a quote taken out of context. Contrary to many opinions this is not a double standard, as democrats have no standard. To be fair the same thing gets said in reverse, so the only statements that are labeled lies are the ones we don’t like.
Love the icon, Chillfolks. lol
 
And I said I don't really care what you find defensible or indefensible any more than I care for your opinion on key lime pie.

Yes, that's kind of how opinions work. 😄 I get to not give a shit that he lied (if indeed he did) to protect the supply of PPE for front line workers.


1. Please, cry harder. 😄

2. Protecting the PPE supply is not the same as not knowing the benefits of covering your mouth or thinking bleach and a dewormer are effective treatments.

3. They'll never be equivalent no matter how hard you cry about it but hey, you never know until you try.

4. Pretty please try and cry harder. 😄
Your post is typical of the mindset of the left. Arrogance, elitism, condescending, and thinking that the conservatives are knuckle-dragging farmers in an old pickup truck. This allows them to give a pass to a certified liar on their side by rationalizing it because they think the people are dumb. There are a number of things he could have said and done. One is to talk in private to Trump to get American manufacturers to ramp up production of N95s which are the only mask that is somewhat good. The other is to admit that cloth masks are worthless as he stated in March and tell people that there really isn't much that can be done and to try to stay indoors or away from others for a while. Instead, the idiot doubles down on his utter stupidity and say to wear TWO masks now, a situation that is detrimental to the health of huimans.

America is run by idiots like fauci in all areas of government and the left hinges on their every utterance as if they are some oracle.
 
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