Should the kkk be able to practice?

[Aryan Imperium]

you can't stop multiculturalism in our continualy globalizing world. Its impossible because the ideas in one place can easily infiltrate another place half way around the world in a matter of seconds.

We are not talking about the importation of "ideas" but of people of alien race into Aryan lands.These lands have been thought for and over for 1,000s of years by our ancestors.
Thanks to the present and previous generation of multicultural race-traitors we are now flooded with elements from all over the world,many of whom are hostile to us and were rejected by their own people.Multiculturalism simply doesn`t work and the USA is a perfect example of how the "melting pot" is not working.
I have no problem with people of different races and nether do I foster hatred towards those who are different to me:I just don`t want them here.
Those who have initiated and encouraged multiculturalism are the real enemies of our peoples and it is they who are creating hatred between different races by forcing us to live side by side.

 

[nkgupta80]

the "aryans" have been here for less than 400 years.

 

[Aryan Imperium]

like the native americans?

I have no problem with "native Americans" though I would dispute that they were necessarily the indigenous people of the Americas.
As I am not an American myself I don`t see this as an issue for me.Perhaps for you?

 

[Aryan Imperium]

the "aryans" have been here for less than 400 years.

I am a European living in Europe:you are mistaking me for an American!:mrgreen:

 

[nkgupta80]

We are not talking about the importation of "ideas" but of people of alien race into Aryan lands.These lands have been thought for and over for 1,000s of years by our ancestors.
Thanks to the present and previous generation of multicultural race-traitors we are now flooded with elements from all over the world,many of whom are hostile to us and were rejected by their own people.Multiculturalism simply doesn`t work and the USA is a perfect example of how the "melting pot" is not working.
I have no problem with people of different races and nether do I foster hatred towards those who are different to me:I just don`t want them here.
Those who have initiated and encouraged multiculturalism are the real enemies of our peoples and it is they who are creating hatred between different races by forcing us to live side by side.

so all it is you really want to see is white faces aroudn you and no other.. Its not really about cultural ideas because ideas will be flowing around extremely quickly regardless....

 

[Aryan Imperium]

so all it is you really want to see is white faces aroudn you and no other.. Its not really about cultural ideas because ideas will be flowing around extremely quickly regardless....

My cause and the cause that my comrades subscribe to is the defence of our soil and people.
Every people must have its own territorial imperative if it is to survive.
If we lose our territorial imperative then we will not survive as a distinct biological entity.

 

[nkgupta80]

just keep ****ing white girls and your race will remain distinct

 

[y not peace?]

no the kkk should not be allowed to lynch my people!

what kind of question is that!

 

[jamesrage]

Shouldnt the klue kluxx Klan be able to able to able to practice there beliefs in America? I mean we do have the freedom of speach and of the practice of our religion? So why should they be cooped up and only let to think of there beliefs?

They are the American version of Hamas,PLO and those other terrorist orginizations.They just currently ceased their terrorism.

I say hell no to the KKK praticing their beliefs in America.Those inbreeders need to be kicked out of this country.

 

[ghost]

So, the Klan were told that they couldn't burn things in public streets or on other people's property, and that they aren't allowed to engage in vigilantism... And you think they're being persecuted? What, exactly, do you think persecution is?

Whoa whoa whoa. I never said they were, I was just asking peoples opionions. I dont think they should go around burning crosses on peoples property. I sure as hell know I wouldnt want it done to me. But If we do have freedom to practice, why cant they practice? In the way that they want to is what I mean.

 

[walrus]

I have to join with several other people in saying that the premise of this thread is a little vague. Does the KKK have the right to believe whatever they want? Of course they do, and I find it hard to imagine legislation that would prevent them from holding those beliefs. Should they be allowed to practice their beliefs? What do you mean by practice? I believe that people should be able to practice most any legal activity on their own property that they wish. No one has a right to come onto another's property and outwardly practice their beliefs without permission. Not the Klan, not the Black Panthers, not the Jehovah's Witnesses and not the Girl Scouts. The Klan has the same rights of freedom of expression and assembly than all other citizens do, and they should keep them. The day we begin to silence beliefs because we disagree is the day we have forgotten a large part of what this nation is founded on.

Disclaimer: This is in no way a defense of the Klan. I think they are very small, ignorant, pitiful people. Free speech is defending the rights of those whose speech is abhorrent to you.

 

[AlbqOwl]

I have to join with several other people in saying that the premise of this thread is a little vague. Does the KKK have the right to believe whatever they want? Of course they do, and I find it hard to imagine legislation that would prevent them from holding those beliefs. Should they be allowed to practice their beliefs? What do you mean by practice? I believe that people should be able to practice most any legal activity on their own property that they wish. No one has a right to come onto another's property and outwardly practice their beliefs without permission. Not the Klan, not the Black Panthers, not the Jehovah's Witnesses and not the Girl Scouts. The Klan has the same rights of freedom of expression and assembly than all other citizens do, and they should keep them. The day we begin to silence beliefs because we disagree is the day we have forgotten a large part of what this nation is founded on.

Disclaimer: This is in no way a defense of the Klan. I think they are very small, ignorant, pitiful people. Free speech is defending the rights of those whose speech is abhorrent to you.

Well said. Laws held by a free people are only to prevent people from violating the rights of others. Ideas, opinions, prejudice, and bigotry in and of themselves, so long as they are not imposed on others, do not violate anybody's rights.

 

[Calm2Chaos]

Hey if we have no problem letting muslim extremist hang around the country. Whats the problem with a few home growns. We have to give them the same rights we give the people trying to kill us throughout the world

 

[y not peace?]

not the Black Panthers

there is/was nothing wrong with the panthers.

 

[sebastiansdreams]

there is/was nothing wrong with the panthers.

Interesting that someone with your screenname would suggest that the black panthers were not in the wrong regardless of their aggressive reactions. I honestly have more admiration for the efforts of Dr King Jr and others who resorted to less violent means. To me, the Black Panthers are very much like Bush and possy. Good intentions but not the best methods.

 

[y not peace?]

you are right they had good intentions. What was wrong with their methods (take note of the time era)?

they were simply taken down by the government and through the media to tell the american people lies about the BBP.

 

[sebastiansdreams]

you are right they had good intentions. What was wrong with their methods (take note of the time era)?

they were simply taken down by the government and through the media to tell the american people lies about the BBP.

It's the aggression behind their actions that is, in my own opinion less effective than King's methods. Primarily the actions of Seale (while arguably provoked or even to degrees fabricated) do present a violent face of retaliation.

 

[y not peace?]

It's the aggression behind their actions that is, in my own opinion less effective than King's methods. Primarily the actions of Seale (while arguably provoked or even to degrees fabricated) do present a violent face of retaliation.

There is no aggression, although its not suprising that you would assume this. The BPP real name was the Black Panther Party School for Self Defense. They never attacked unless shot first, which was always in response to oppresion.

This is some history of the BPP and their rules:

http://www.marxists.org/history/usa/workers/black-panthers/

In October of 1966, in Oakland California, Huey Newton and Bobby Seale founded the Black Panther Party for Self-Defense. The Panthers practiced militant self-defense of minority communities against the U.S. government, and fought to establish revolutionary socialism through mass organizing and community based programs. The party was one of the first organizations in U.S. history to militantly struggle for ethnic minority and working class emancipation — a party whose agenda was the revolutionary establishment of real economic, social, and political equality across gender and color lines.
> > The Ten-Point Program
> > Rules of the Black Panther Party


Original six Black Panthers (November, 1966) Top left to right: Elbert "Big Man" Howard; Huey P. Newton (Defense Minister), Sherman Forte, Bobby Seale (Chairman). Bottom: Reggie Forte and Little Bobby Hutton (Treasurer).

Black Panther Theory: The practices of the late Malcolm X were deeply rooted in the theoretical foundations of the Black Panther Party. Malcolm had represented both a militant revolutionary, with the dignity and self-respect to stand up and fight to win equality for all oppressed minorities; while also being an outstanding role model, someone who sought to bring about positive social services; something the Black Panthers would take to new heights. The Panthers followed Malcolm's belief of international working class unity across the spectrum of color and gender, and thus united with various minority and white revolutionary groups. From the tenets of Maoism they set the role of their Party as the vanguard of the revolution and worked to establish a united front, while from Marxism they addressed the capitalist economic system, embraced the theory of dialectical materialism, and represented the need for all workers to forcefully take over the means of production.


Black Panther History: On April 25th, 1967, the first issue of The Black Panther, the party's official news organ, goes into distribution. In the following month, the party marches on the California state capital fully armed, in protest of the state's attempt to outlaw carrying loaded weapons in public. Bobby Seale reads a statement of protest; while the police respond by immediately arresting him and all 30 armed Panthers. This early act of political repression kindles the fires to the burning resistance movement in the United States; soon initiating minority workers to take up arms and form new Panther chapters outside the state.
> > The Black Panther: [off-site link] Articles from 1968-69

In October of 1967, the police arrest the Defense Minister of the Panthers, Huey Newton, for killing an Oakland cop. Panther Eldridge Cleaver begins the movement to "Free Huey", a struggle the Panthers would devote a great deal of their attention to in the coming years, while the party spreads its roots further into the political spectrum, forming coalitions with various revolutionary parties. Stokely Carmichael, the former chairman of the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC) and a nationally known proponent of Black Power, is recruited into the party through this struggle, and soon becomes the party's Prime Minister in February, 1968. Carmichael is adamantly against allowing whites into the black liberation movement, explaining whites cannot relate to the black experience and have an intimidating effect on blacks; a position that stirs opposition within the Panthers. Carmichael explains: "Whites who come into the black community with ideas of change seem to want to absolve the power structure of its responsibility for what it is doing, and say that change can only come through black unity, which is the worst kind of paternalism..... If we are to proceed toward true liberation, we must cut ourselves off from white people..... [otherwise] we will find ourselves entwined in the tentacles of the white power complex that controls this country."
> > Stokely Carmichael: The Basis of Black Power

In the beginning of 1968, after selling Mao's Red Book to university students in order to buy shotguns, the Party makes the book required reading. Meanwhile, the FBI, under J. Edgar Hoover, begins a program called COINTELPRO (counterintelligence program) to break up the spreading unity of revolutionary groups that had begun solidifying through the work and examaple of the Panthers — the Peace and Freedom Party, Brown Berets, Students for a Democratic Society, the SNCC, SCLC, Poor People's March, Cesar Chavez and others in the farm labor movement, the American Indian Movement, Young Puerto Rican Brothers, the Young Lords and many others. To destroy the party, the FBI begins with a program of surgical assassinations — killing leading members of the party who they know cannot be otherwise subverted. Following these mass killings would be a series of arrests, followed by a program of psychological warfare, designed to split the party both politically and morally through the use of espionage, provocatures, and chemical warfare.
> > Watered down examples of FBI investigations, provided by the FBI: [off-site links]
> > The Winston Salem (N.C.) Black Panthers (2,895 pages)
> > Communist infiltration of the SNCC in 1964 (2,887 pages)
> > Cesar Chavez and United Farm Workers Communist Affiliations in 1965 (2,021 pages)

U.S. Police Terror and Repression
On April 6, 1968, in West Oakland, Bobby Hutton, 17 years old, is shot dead by Oakland police. In a 90 minute gun battle, an unarmed Bobby Hutton is shot ten times dead, after his house is set ablaze and he is forced to run out into a fire of bullets. Just two days earlier, Martin Luther King is assasinated, after he had begun rethinking his own doctrines of non-violence, and started to build ties with radical unions. Two months later on the day of Bobby's death, Robert Kennedy, widely recognised in the minority commmunity as one of the only politicians in the US "sympathetic" to the civil rights movement, is also assasinated.

 

[y not peace?]

continued.......

In January, 1969, The first Panther's Free Breakfast for School Children Program is initiated at St. Augustine's Church in Oakland. By the end of the year, the Panthers set up kitchens in cities across the nation, feeding over 10,000 children every day before they went to school.
> > The Black Panther: To Feed Our Children


A few months later, J. Edgar Hoover publicly states that the Panthers are the "greatest threat to the internal security of the country".

In Chicago, the outstanding leader of the Panthers local, Fred Hampton, leads five different breakfast programs on the West Side, helps create a free medical center, and initiates a door to door program of health services which test for sickle cell anemia, and encourage blood drives for the Cook County Hospital. The Chicago party also begins reaching out to local gangs to clean up their acts, get them away from crime and bring them into the class war. The Parties efforts meet wide success, and Hampton's audiences and organised contingent grow by the day. On December 4th, at 4:00 a.m. in the morning, thanks to information from an FBI informant , Chicago police raid the Panthers' Chicago apartment, murdering Fred Hampton while he sleeps in bed. He is shot twice in the head, once in the arm and shoulder; while three other people sleeping in the same bed escape unharmed. Mark Clark, sleeping in the living room chair, is also murdered while asleep. Hampton's wife, carrying child for 8 months, is also shot, but survives. Four panthers sleeping in the apartment are wounded, while one other escapes injury . Fred Hampton was 21 years old when he was executed, Mark was 17 years old. According to the findings of the federal grand jury, Ninety bullets were fired inside the apartment. 1 came from a Panther — Mark — who slept with a shotgun in his hand. All surviving Panther members were arrested for "attempted murder of the police and aggravated assault". Not a single cop spent a moment in jail for the executions.
> > Fred Hampton: I am ... a Revolutionary

In the summer of 1969, the alliance between the Panthers and SNCC begins ripping apart. One of the main points of dispute is the inclusion of whites in the struggle for minority liberation, a dispute which is pushed into an open gun fight at the University of California in Los Angeles against the group US, led by Maulana Karenga, which leaves two Panthers dead. In September, in the government's court house, Huey Newton is convicted of voluntary manslaughter and sentenced to 2 to 15 years in prison; by 1970 the conviction is appealed and overturned on procedural errors. On November 24, 1968, Kathleen and Eldridge Cleaver flee the US, visit Cuba and Paris, and eventually settle in Algeria. Earlier in the year Cleaver published his famous book Soul on Ice. By the end of the year, the party has swelled from 400 members to over 5,000 members in 45 chapters and branches, with a newspaper circulation of 100,000 copies.

In 1969 Seale is indicted in Chicago for protesting during the Democratic national convention of last year. The court refuses to allow Seale to choose a lawyer. As Seale repeatedly stands up during the show trial insisting that he is being denied his constitutional right to counsel, the judge orders him bound and gagged. He is convicted on 16 counts of contempt and sentenced to four years in prison. While in jail he would be charged again for killing a cop in years past, a trial that would end in 1971 with a hung jury.

In March, 1970, Bobby Seale publishes Seize The Time while still being held in prison, the story of the Panthers and Huey Newton. On April 2, 1970, in New York, 21 Panthers are charged with plotting to assassinate police officers and blow up buildings. On May 22nd, Eight members, including Ericka Huggins, are arrested on a variety of conspiracy and murder charges in New Haven, Connecticut. Meanwhile, Chief of staff David Hilliard is on trial for threatening President Richard Nixon. The party does little to separate its legal and illegal aspects, and is thus always and everywhere under attack by the government. In 1971, the Panther's newspaper circulation reaches 250,000.

On Huey Newton's release from prison, he devotes more effort to further develop the Panther's socialist survival programs in black communities; programs that provided free breakfasts for children, established free medical clinics, helped the homeless find housing, and gave away free clothing and food.

FBI forgery, provacation, & chemical war
In March, 1970, the FBI begins to soe seeds of factionalism in the Black Panthers, in part by forging letters to members. Eldridge Cleaver is one of their main targets — living in exile in Algiers — they gradually convince him with a steady stream of misinformation that the BPP leadership is trying to remove him from power. Cleaver recieved stacks of forgered FBI letters from supposed party members, criticising Netwon's leadership, and asking for Cleaver to take control. An example of such a forged letter, written using the name of Connie Matthews, Newton's personal secretary:

I know you have not been told what has been happening lately.... Things around headquarters are dreadfully disorganized with the comrade commander not making proper decisions. The newspaper is in a shambles. No one knows who is in charge. The foreign department gets no support. Brothers and sisters are accused of all sorts of things...

I am disturbed because I, myself, do not know which way to turn.... If only you were here to inject some strength into the movement, or to give some advice. One of two steps must be taken soon and both are drastic. We must either get rid of the supreme commander or get rid of the disloyal members... Huey is really all we have right now and we can't let him down, reglardless of how poorly he is acting, unless you feel otherwise.

Cleaver receives similarly forged letters across the spectrum, from groups outside the Panthers, to Panthers themselves, from rank and file members to Elbert "Big Man" Howard, editor of the Black Panther. The split comes when Newton goes onto a T.V. talk show for an interview, with Cleaver on the phone in Algiers. Cleaver expresses his absolute disdain for what has happened to the party, demands that David Hilliard (Chief of Staff) be removed, and even attacks the breakfast program as reformist. Cleaver is expelled from the Central Committee, and starts up his own Black Liberation Army. In 1973, Seale runs for mayor of Oakland. Though he receives 40 percent of the vote, he is defeated.

The destroyed remnants of the party leadership
With such great struggles, seeing the party being ripped apart by factions and internal hatred, Huey, like many members, becomes disillusioned. He no longer wants to lead the party, though so many expect and demand otherwise, while he spins into a spiral of self-doubt. He becomes heavily dependent on cocaine, heroin, and others. It is not clear this was his own doing, and very probable the work of the FBI. Huey remarked in one of his public speeches in the 1980s, where he would often have spurts of his brilliant clarity but then become entirely incoherent and rambling, that he was killing himself by reactionary suicide, through the vices of drug addiction. On August 22, 1989, Newton is shot dead on the streets of Oakland in a drug dispute.
Bobby Seale resigns from the party; while Elaine Brown takes the lead in continuing the Panther community programs. In the fall of 1975, Eldridge and Kathleen Cleaver return from exile as born-again Christians. In 1979, all charges against Cleaver are dropped after he bargains with the state and pleads guilty to assault in a 1968 shoot out with the cops. He is put on five years probation. In the dimming years of his life, Cleaver assimilates a political outlook similar to Martin Luther King, engages in various business ventures, and becomes heavily addicted to cocaine.

By the beginning of the 1980s, attacks on the party and internal degradation and divisions, cause the party to fall apart. The leadership of the party had been absolutely smashed; its rank and file constantly terrorized by the police. Many remaining Panthers were hunted down and killed in the following years, imprisoned on trumped charges (Mumia Abu-Jamal, Sundiata Acoli, among many others), or forced to flee the United States (Assata Shakur, and others).

As Cleaver would later explain in an interview a year before his death: "As it was [the U.S. government] chopped off the head [of the Black liberation movement] and left the body there armed. That's why all these young bloods are out there now, they've got the rhetoric but are without the political direction... and they've got the guns."


Black Child's Pledge
I pledge allegiance to my Black People.
I pledge to develop my mind and body to the greatest extent possible.
I will learn all that I can in order to give my best to my People in their struggle for liberation.
I will keep myself physically fit, building a strong body free from drugs and other substances which weaken me and make me less capable of protecting myself, my family and my Black brothers and sisters.
I will unselfishly share my knowledge and understanding with them in order to bring about change more quickly.
I will discipline myself to direct my energies thoughtfully and constructively rather than wasting them in idle hatred.
I will train myself never to hurt or allow others to harm my Black brothers and sisters for I recognize that we need every Black Man, Woman, and Child to be physically, mentally and psychologically strong.
These principles I pledge to practice daily and to teach them to others in order to unite my People.

 

[y not peace?]

continued once more.....

The Black Panther, October 26, 1968
by Shirley Williams




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Links:
Angela Davis: PBS Interview in 1998: "We can't think narrowly about movements for black liberation and we can't necessarily see this class division as simply a product or a certain strategy that black movements have developed for liberation.... We have to look at for example the increasing globalization of capital, the whole system of transitional capitalism now which has had an impact on black populations — that has for example eradicated large numbers of jobs that black people traditionally have been able to count upon and created communities where the tax base is lost now as a result of corporations moving to the third world in order to discover cheap labor."

Bobby Seale's Homepage

Interview of Bobby Seale in 1996: "They came down on us because we had a grass-roots, real people's revolution, complete with the programs, complete with the unity, complete with the working coalitions, we were crossing racial lines. That synergetic statement of "All power to all the people," "Down with the racist pig power structure" -- we were not talking about the average white person: we were talking about the corporate money rich and the racist jive politicians and the lackeys, as we used to call them, for the government who perpetuates all this exploitation and racism."

Huey P. Newton Foundation

Interview of Eldrige Cleaver, a year before his death, now using the words of Martin Luther King, in 1997: "I think that it is possible for the capitalist system to have a program of full employment, but we have a spiritual and moral problem in America. Our problem is not economic or political, it is that we do not care about each other.....

http://sunsite3.berkeley.edu/calheritage/panthers/rules.htm#10

The Rules Are:
No Party member can have narcotics or weed in his possession while doing Party work.
Any Party member found shooting narcotics will be expelled from this Party.
No Party member can be DRUNK while doing daily Party work.
No Party member will violate rules relating to office work, general meetings of the BLACK PANTHER PARTY and meetings of the BLACK PANTHER PARTY ANYWHERE.
No Party member will USE, POINT, OR FIRE a weapon of any kind unnecessarily or accidentally at anyone.
No Party member can join any other army force other than the BLACK LIBERATION ARMY.
No Party member can have a weapon in his possession while drunk or loaded off narcotics or weed.
No Party member will commit any crimes against other Party members or BLACK people at all, and cannot steal or take from the people, not even a needle or a piece of thread.
When arrested, BLACK PANTHER MEMBERS will give only name, address, and will sign nothing. Legal first aid must be understood by all Party members.
The ten-point program and platform of the BLACK PANTHER PARTY must be known and understood by each Party member.
Party communications must be National and Local.
The 10-10-10 program should be known by all members and also understood by all members.
All Finance officers will operate under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of Finance.
Each person will submit a report of daily work.
Each Sub-Section Leader, Section Leader, Lieutenant, and Captain must submit daily reports of work.
All Panthers must learn to operate and service weapons correctly.
All Leadership personnel who expel a member must submit this information to the Editor of this newspaper, so that it will be published in the paper and will be known by all chapters.
Political Education Classes are mandatory for general membership.
Only office personnel assigned to respective offices each day should be there. All others are to sell papers and do Political work out in the community, including Captains, Section Leaders, etc.
COMMUNICATIONS- all chapters must submit weekly reports in writing to the National Headquarters.
All Branches must implement First Aid and/or Medical Cadres.
All Chapters, Branches, and components of the BLACK PANTHER PARTY must submit a monthly Financial Report to the Ministry of Finance, and also the Central Committee.
Everyone in a leadership position must read no less than two hours per day to keep abreast of the changing political situation.
No chapter or branch shall accept grants, poverty funds, money, or any other aid from any government agency without contacting the National Headquarters.
All chapters must adhere to the policy and the ideology laid down by the CENTRAL COMMITTEE of the BLACK PANTHER PARTY.
All Branches must submit weekly reports in writing to their respective Chapters.

Bobby Seale, Seize the Time, N.Y.: Random House, 1971. p. 391-393.

The 10-10-10 program "is based on a very simple theoretical principle which involves dividing a city into ten sections, establishing ten subsections in each of these, and ten sub-subsections in each of these. The principle can be extended to any length depending on the number of recruits one finds."

Forman, James. The making of black revolutionaries. New York, Macmillan, 1972. p529

 

[ludahai]

Should the KKK be able to march peacefully to make their "point?" YES
Should the KKK be able to burn crosses on their own private property? YES
Should the KKK be able to advocate their notions of racial superiorty? YES

Should they be able to lynch people (Black, Asian, Catholic, etc.?) NO
Should they be able to burn crosses on other people's property and vandalize them? NO

I come from a targeted group (historically) of the Klan in that I am Catholic. My wife, who is Asian, is a member of another target group of the KKK, so I have absolutely NO incentive to support them. However, like any other American, they have certain rights that I will support even though I detest their ideology of hate even more than I detest the New York Yankees.

 

[ludahai]

there is/was nothing wrong with the panthers.

So it's ok to kill whitey?!?!? :doh

 

[jamesrage]

Should the KKK be able to march peacefully to make their "point?" YES
Should the KKK be able to burn crosses on their own private property? YES
Should the KKK be able to advocate their notions of racial superiorty? YES

Should they be able to lynch people (Black, Asian, Catholic, etc.?) NO
Should they be able to burn crosses on other people's property and vandalize them? NO

Your logic would be like letting Al-qaeda or Hamas run around on the street freely.I don't give a **** if they are peaceful now as far as I am concerned these
KKK,Nazis,aryan Brother hood and the other inbreeding racist groups are the American version of Al Qaeda and Hamas with exception to the Nazis who are German's version of a inbreeding racist group.

 

[ludahai]

Your logic would be like letting Al-qaeda or Hamas run around on the street freely.I don't give a **** if they are peaceful now as far as I am concerned these
KKK,Nazis,aryan Brother hood and the other inbreeding racist groups are the American version of Al Qaeda and Hamas with exception to the Nazis who are German's version of a inbreeding racist group.

So that justifies stifiling their free speech rights under the Constitution? You don't like them so its ok to deny them basic Constitutional rights? I don't like them either, but I would defend their rights to speak and march, even if I would be in a countermarch against them!

 

[AlbqOwl]

Your logic would be like letting Al-qaeda or Hamas run around on the street freely.I don't give a **** if they are peaceful now as far as I am concerned these
KKK,Nazis,aryan Brother hood and the other inbreeding racist groups are the American version of Al Qaeda and Hamas with exception to the Nazis who are German's version of a inbreeding racist group.

Oh for heavens sake. America's racist groups are not al Qaeda. They are not fire bombing busses, sending car bombs into crowded markets, or indiscriminately beheading people or flying passenger airliners into office buildings for the purpose of terrorizing and subjecting an entire people to their will. Have they committed atrocities in the past? Yes they have. Are some among them capable of committing atrocities now? Yes they are. But there is no group out there, Christian, Jew, Moslem, athiest, liberal activist, conservative lobbyist, etc. that isn't going to produce a deranged nut now and then. There is no way I support or admire any of the racist groups--I think they're ignorant, petty, and unAmerican--but to condemn any entire group for the uncondoned actions of a deranged nut is not helpful to the cause of tolerance or justice.

One of the most poignant news photos I have ever seen was a large KKK group in full hooded uniform and carrying simulated burning crosses in a formal march. Flanking them and providing them protection was a large, stony faced, uniformed black cop. I thought to myself: only in America.