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Secret Service rush to evacuate Pence from besieged Capitol becomes 'coup' focus

I used to think that the mob wouldn't really kill Pence, but I now believe they really would have if they had gotten to him.

I wish I could go back to thinking otherwise, but I can't.

The gallows erected outside of the capitol was quite the symbol of their intentions.
 

Its purpose was not a "protest", but to "stop the steal", when there was no "steal" and it was an entirely made-up concept by a sore loser.

What "regime" were they standing up to other than American democracy?
 
Get over it already. Y'all are worse than pizzagaters at this point.
We'll get over it when justice is served, not before.

We'll come back together again as a country when the GOP takes responsibility for what they've done, not before.

We'll move forward together when right wingers rejoin us in reality, not before.
 
We'll get over it when justice is served, not before.

We'll come back together again as a country when the GOP takes responsibility for what they've done, not before.

We'll move forward together when right wingers rejoin us in reality, not before.
Nothing will come of this. Democrats have wasted like a year and a half of their time, and counting.
 
Get over investigating the trump coup attempt? That comment would make you resemble pizzagate supporters, not the people investigating trump.
Stuff like this is why I will never again identify as a Democrat. It's become a party of nut jobs.
 

How would I ever know of specific threats. Pffftttt...
 
I mean you've lied in every one of these threads so why stop now right?
 

Their intention was to "stop the steal"- a completely made-up lie. So what did that mean other than forcefully taking down the normal functioning of American government- IOW, insurrection?

That security/intelligence was able to stop them from more violence on our lawmakers, disruption of our government, and minimize the destruction of US property does not change the intention of why they were there.
 

1. Because Raskin wouldn't be hyperventilating over that which the OP is about. He would be focused about riot conspiracies.

2. Nothing in the stories indicate a riot-- instead its about efforts to contest the election results.
Which thus far, progressives have declined to say doing so is illegal.
 

The intention was not a protest. The intention was to stop the "steal"- a made-up lie. You'd have to be stupid to not know it was just a lie.

IOW, the intention was to disrupt American government with a hostile and violent take-over, based on a known lie, because they liked the lie. "Hang Mike Pence!" is not "protest election results".
 
Stuff like this is why I will never again identify as a Democrat. It's become a party of nut jobs.
The nut jobs are the ones saying that the trump attempted coup is only about nut jobs. If you're saying anything other than that the coup is a serious problem needing investigation, the Democratic Party agrees you don't belong in it. It's for sane people.
 
Nothing will come of this. Democrats have wasted like a year and a half of their time, and counting.
Huge things have come from it and more will come.
 
People died and you think it was awesome?
 
The gallows erected outside of the capitol was quite the symbol of their intentions.
To be fair, I'd be willing to write that off as a rhetorical, symbolic message - it's other things that are convincing many were willing to commit violence.
 
Nothing will come of this. Democrats have wasted like a year and a half of their time, and counting.
Too bad. It has to be done, for the good of the country.
 

Ok-- so Congress can overturn a presidential election if it thinks it is warranted.
Trump thought it was warranted.
The argument you have is that you disagree that it was warranted.
Fair enough.

So its all just power politics-- you would have no objection to Biden trying to d the same IF you believe the cause is correct.
 
Where were you on Jan 6 when Trump and all of his deplorables needed you to educate them?
 
Where were you on Jan 6 when Trump and all of his deplorables needed you to educate them?

Hey-- if you think Congress can overturn an election don't bellyache to me about it.
I don't think they can.
Perhaps you should explain why Trump is correct.
 
Again, you would need to convince Trump and his minions of this, not your DP forum friends. During the early afternoon of 1/6, Trump was ignoring everyone else, sitting, watching, and waiting for the best moment to declare and then announce martial law, like he was going to save America. Once that happened, all bets are off as to how that scenario ends. At that point, you can take your binary set of options and stick it in a place where the sun rarely shines (I pre-suppose).
 
From the above cite:

No record of the request​

A government memo about the events leading up to Jan. 6, statements from Pelosi’s office and the Pentagon and testimony from the former House sergeant-at-arms show Trump did not request 10,000 troops ahead of the rally.
And:

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If you read the cite in totality, there is an impressive list of the sources used to fact-check this lie. (Not included, but something that should be brought into the conclusions is that, since Trump said it, chances are that it is a lie since he seems incapable of telling the truth.)
 
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