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Secret Service rush to evacuate Pence from besieged Capitol becomes 'coup' focus

dex4974 said:
Get over it already. Y'all are worse than pizzagaters at this point.
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Pizzagate was another stupid GOP conspiracy theory, like the 2020 election was stolen. Funny you would use that as an insult.
 
Athanasius68 said:
There have been a lot of people who have died from natural causes since 1/6/21.
There have been people who have committed suicide since 1/6/21.
Moreover, police have about the highest suicide rate of professions in the country.

It wasn't yours, but from post #114 one can wonder why anti-Trumpers are so quick to turn personal tragedies into political weapons against their political opponents.
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Uh-huh.

Ashley Babbitt's martyrdom comes to mind.
 
Plasmaball said:
That's not the argument. You are trying to change the conversation because you can't defend these actions..

I know exactly what you are about. It's the same thing in every Thread
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He's been making these childish circular arguments since the first impeachment. But he thinks he is soooo smart!
 
Donald Trump's men in The Secret Service, especially his fixer Tony Ornato, controlled the agents working to protect Mike Pence and would have directed the latter to fly him "to Alaska". That is frightening, indeed. It is as frightening as plotting to hang Mike Pence, because once he got in "that car", let alone was put on a plane to Alaska or a bus to Casper, Wyoming, he might never be seen alive again. And who would ever talk about what happened to him?

"Pence told Giebels: 'I'm not getting in the car, Tim.'

'I trust you, Tim, but you're not driving the car. If I get in that vehicle, you guys are taking off. I'm not getting in the car,' he said.

The Pences went to a secure underground area to wait out the riot. At the White House, senior official Keith Kellogg reportedly discussed Pence with Tony Ornato, who 'oversaw Secret Service movements.'

Ornato told Kellogg that Pence's security detail was planning to move him to Joint Base Andrews but Kellogg told Ornato to leave Pence where he was because Pence was determined to stay and finish the job."

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"Former Vice President Mike Pence rebuffed Secret Service pressure to be driven away from the U.S. Capitol during the Jan. 6 insurrection because he feared he would not be able to continue presiding over the certification by Congress of the electoral votes for president, according to a new book.
Secret Service agents feared for Pence’s life at the U.S. Capitol that day while insurrectionists were calling for the then-vice president to be 'hanged' for refusing Donald Trump’s demand to reject American voters’ choice for president.

Pence was initially moved to his ceremonial office, but Tim Giebels, in charge of Pence’s security detail, was still concerned about his safety and asked Pence — twice — to “evacuate the Capitol,” according to the book 'I Alone Can Fix It: Donald J. Trump’s Catastrophic Final Year,' by Washington Post reporters Philip Rucker and Carol Leonnig.
Pence refused. 'I’m not leaving the Capitol,' he told Giebels, worried that speeding away from the building would 'vindicate the insurrection,' according to the book, which is coming out Tuesday.

Finally, he was escorted to a subterranean location, where Pence’s armored limousine awaited, and was told to get in the car.
'I’m not getting in the car, Tim,' Pence replied, according to Rucker and Leonnig. 'If I get in that vehicle, you guys are taking off. I’m not getting in the car.'

Tony Ornato, who oversaw Secret Service movements, reportedly told White House senior official Keith Kellogg in the West Wing that agents were planning to move Pence to Joint Base Andrews in Maryland.

'You can’t do that, Tony,' Kellogg said, according to the book. 'Leave him where he’s at. He’s got a job to do. I know you guys too well. You’ll fly him to Alaska if you have a chance. Don’t do it.'

He’s 'going to stay there' Kellogg added, according to the book. 'If he has to wait there all night, he’s going to do it'. (Ornato denied that the conversation took place.)
Trump, meanwhile, reportedly asked an aide in the White House: 'Is Mike okay?' Trump was also at the time praising the insurrectionists in a tweet and blasting Pence for not having the 'courage' to overturn the election.

When he was told Secret Service agents were with the vice president, Trump reportedly responded, 'Oh?' — and continued to watch events unfold on television.

At 4 that afternoon, Pence called Acting Defense Secretary Chris Miller, the book reported.
'Get troops here; get them here now,' Pence ordered, according to the authors. 'We’ve got to get the Congress to do its business.'"




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Pence Rebuffed Secret Service Plan To Leave Capitol, Fearing A Halt To Electoral Vote Duty

Trump reportedly asked if "Mike" was OK while praising insurrectionists and ripping Pence for lacking the "courage" to overturn the presidential election.
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