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Spiritual beliefs evolved over thousands of years as nature’s way to help us balance this out and go on functioning.That ’logic’ considers the fact that (avowed or alleged) atheists can and do *gasp* agree that basic morality and mutual respect are important traits (moral values?) of a functioning society. Using that completely secular concept to assert that a belief in a god or higher power (never mentioned in the Golden Rule) was responsible for that natural evolutionary development - ergo “some scientists” assert that (true?) atheists (those lacking any basic morality?) may not exist.
It seems to me that (organized) religions (and their texts) simply co-opted basic morality (the Golden Rule), rather than heard about it from their (invented?) god or higher power.
Using nonsense like folks conducting burial or memorial services for the dead (which many do for pets) to prove that they (must?) believe in spirituality (a continuing soul?) is utter nonsense.
Please, explain in detail what you mean by this absolutely ludicrous comment.
It likely does not...the need to believe is ingrained in humans...period...some are conscious of that need, others are not, but it's still there...It likely means that she sees someone as being less than (completely?) human if they do not hold acceptable (to her) religious beliefs.
It likely does not...the need to believe is ingrained in humans...period...some are conscious of that need, others are not, but it's still there...
No, the article is...you are accusing atheists of being liars
I've seen no evidence of a need to believe ingrained in humans, relative to anything supernatural, though a case might be made that some humans may have a want to believe if an infinitesimally small chance of life after death might possibly exist.It likely does not...the need to believe is ingrained in humans...period...some are conscious of that need, others are not, but it's still there...
some are conscious of that need, others are not, but it's still there...I've seen no evidence of a need to believe ingrained in humans, relative to anything supernatural, though a case might be made that some humans may have a want to believe if an infinitesimally small chance of life after death might possibly exist.
There is a need, for survival of the species, to believe in what has been proven about nature and the natural world in which we exist, but that's all. Anything supernatural is optional, though lawful as long as it remains harmless.
'Course. You do yousome are conscious of that need, others are not, but it's still there...
What you say, if speaking of a need to believe in something supernatural, is nothing more than a baseless opinion.some are conscious of that need, others are not, but it's still there...
Baseless opinion and also self delusion.What you say, if speaking of a need to believe in something supernatural, is nothing more than a baseless opinion.
Considering what has been said by a number of ex-jw's, that seems to be like blaming the victim.No, we often get shunned by our own family members who leave...
While this idea may seem outlandish—after all, it seems easy to decide not to believe in God—evidence from several disciplines indicates that what you actually believe is not a decision you make for yourself. Your fundamental beliefs are decided by much deeper levels of consciousness, and some may well be more or less set in stone.
Aaaaand Elora dehumanizing atheists. Some of that real JW cult love. Im so glad i never joined this cult.
Jesus christ you are so ****ing lazy. Can't even form an opinion of your own, and the entire point of your thread is to attempt to claim atheists can't exist, therefore the debate ass kickings we regularly hand you don't count.
Seems to have formed one very misguided 'opinion', as said 'opinion' is not supported with anything 'factual.' See post# 8 put forth by @Elora in this thread to view that misguided 'opinion.'Jesus christ you are so ****ing lazy. Can't even form an opinion of your own, and the entire point of your thread is to attempt to claim atheists can't exist, therefore the debate ass kickings we regularly hand you don't count.
Emotions is just a process of the brain. Science can point out which parts of the brain govern emotion. There's nothing unusual about it.@Quag
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It's like..............................human EMOTIONS.
We don't see what's going on inside us but we see the result.
Do you deny humans have emotions?
Only you, can experience your own emotions. There are so many nuances to an emotion, too.
The kind of anger you feel about a personal insult, may not be the same as the anger one feels which is triggered by frustrations.
Being angry at someone in particular and being angry at no one in particular.
That's just one emotion, and that's not all about anger, either. There's also "degrees" of anger, or emotions felt.
Had science been able to explain it?
Don't give me that evolution crap!
Evolution is a known observed fact@Quag
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@Gordy327
It's like..............................human EMOTIONS.
We don't see what's going on inside us but we see the result.
Do you deny humans have emotions?
Only you, can experience your own emotions. There are so many nuances to an emotion, too.
The kind of anger you feel about a personal insult, may not be the same as the anger one feels which is triggered by frustrations.
Being angry at someone in particular and being angry at no one in particular.
That's just one emotion, and that's not all about anger, either. There's also "degrees" of anger, or emotions felt.
Had science been able to explain it?
Don't give me that evolution crap!
Guess you were too lazy to read the thread...Jesus christ you are so ****ing lazy. Can't even form an opinion of your own, and the entire point of your thread is to attempt to claim atheists can't exist, therefore the debate ass kickings we regularly hand you don't count.
Observed theory is NOT fact...Evolution is a known observed fact
Religious beliefs are just beliefs without any evidence to support them
To deny a natural, inherent human need is dehumanizing/denying being human...Seems to have formed one very misguided 'opinion', as said 'opinion' is not supported with anything 'factual.' See post# 8 put forth by @Elora in this thread to view that misguided 'opinion.'
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