Russian Arctic Build Up

[Litwin]

Again with the INTERNATIONAL MISREPRESENTATION of the Siberian protest and the rather silly maps.

really ? DW : 'We hate Moscow!' Anti-Kremlin protests in Siberia (Khabarovsk)

"Almost no one from the region has been to Moscow. For many, Moscow is both geographically and mentally further away than neighbors like China, South Korea or Japan. They see that their direct neighbors are in a better economic situation, and so they orient themselves more towards them than Moscow," Graschenkov says.


There are also pragmatic reasons why people in Khabarovsk don't speak well of Moscow and the Kremlin, explains Zaripov, who comes from a small town on the region's easternmost edge and happens to be in the provincial capital this weekend. "We hate Moscow. This hate began with the prohibition on cars that had the steering wheel on the right, which we used to be allowed to import cheaply from Japan. Now we have to pay high tariffs. Ever since this ban on cheap Japanese cars, the levels of popular support for the central government has gone down."

'We hate Moscow!' – DW – 07/26/2020

For the third weekend in a row, tens of thousands in Russia's furthest eastern regions have protested the arrest of regional ex-governor Sergei Furgal. Their distrust of the Kremlin could have powerful consequences.

www.dw.com

 

[Fledermaus]

really ? DW : 'We hate Moscow!' Anti-Kremlin protests in Siberia (Khabarovsk)

"Almost no one from the region has been to Moscow. For many, Moscow is both geographically and mentally further away than neighbors like China, South Korea or Japan. They see that their direct neighbors are in a better economic situation, and so they orient themselves more towards them than Moscow," Graschenkov says.

There are also pragmatic reasons why people in Khabarovsk don't speak well of Moscow and the Kremlin, explains Zaripov, who comes from a small town on the region's easternmost edge and happens to be in the provincial capital this weekend. "We hate Moscow. This hate began with the prohibition on cars that had the steering wheel on the right, which we used to be allowed to import cheaply from Japan. Now we have to pay high tariffs. Ever since this ban on cheap Japanese cars, the levels of popular support for the central government has gone down."

'We hate Moscow!' – DW – 07/26/2020

For the third weekend in a row, tens of thousands in Russia's furthest eastern regions have protested the arrest of regional ex-governor Sergei Furgal. Their distrust of the Kremlin could have powerful consequences.

www.dw.com

Really.

You can't help yourself.

You lied about the reasons there were protests.

Litwin. The reality is Siberia is RUSSIAN and has been for hundreds of years. And it will remain RUSSIAN for the foreseeable future. China isn't going to take it and the USA certainly isn't going to annex it.

As to the Northern route Russia occupies much of the arctic. It is their backyard.

 

[anatta]

Canada/USA/Denmark will win the great northern route race without problem , no one trusts to the KGB thugs ( Muscovites)

Russia has the icebreakers, and the great northern route allows Europe to China and vice versa
as an alternative to the Suez

 

[Abbazorkzog]

Canada/USA/Denmark will win the great northern route race without problem , no one trusts to the KGB thugs ( Muscovites)

Nope. Russia has the FSB, only branch of the KGB still around is in Belarus (which I recall you defending at one time...)

 

[anatta]

meaningless Russia bashing..

 

[Litwin]

Nope. Russia has the FSB, only branch of the KGB still around is in Belarus (which I recall you defending at one time...)

Cheka, NKVD, KGB, FSB different names of the same criminal - terrorist gang ,
In the Khimki police station @Navalny (where the trial takes place) sits under the portrait of Genrikh Yagoda, the head of NKVD secret service in 1934-36, hanging on the wall. Yagoda supervised show trials and was the person who launched the #GULAG.

Much like Ulus of Juchi (golden horde) , Tartary, Muscovy , ussr, rf the same mongol barbaric ulus under the different names
Tsarev ulus: Russia in the Golden Horde - JSTOR
https://www.jstor.org › stable


by CJ Halperin · 1982 · Cited by 14 — khan was granted an ulus, the first devolution of the term; thus the Golden Horde, the ... Vsevolozhskii told the tsar' that Vasilii II was his kholop. (slave), and ...

 

[Fledermaus]

Cheka, NKVD, KGB, FSB different names of the same criminal - terrorist gang ,
In the Khimki police station @Navalny (where the trial takes place) sits under the portrait of Genrikh Yagoda, the head of NKVD secret service in 1934-36, hanging on the wall. Yagoda supervised show trials and was the person who launched the #GULAG.

Nope. History disagrees.

Much like Ulus of Juchi (golden horde) , Tartary, Muscovy , ussr, rf the same mongol barbaric ulus under the different names
Tsarev ulus: Russia in the Golden Horde - JSTOR
https://www.jstor.org › stable

Nope. History disagrees with you again. History says RUSSIA defeated the Golden Horde. Ulus of Juchi =/= RUSSIA. Tartary =/= RUSSIA. Muscovy evolved into RUSSIAN EMPIRE. RUSSIA changed govenrments and became the USSR. The USSR fell and changed governments to become the RUSSIAN FEDERATION.

To call them the same id completely ignorant.

by CJ Halperin · 1982 · Cited by 14 — khan was granted an ulus, the first devolution of the term; thus the Golden Horde, the ... Vsevolozhskii told the tsar' that Vasilii II was his kholop. (slave), and ...

Blah, blah blah.....

RUSSIA =/= MONGOL

 

[calamity]

Russia is already pushing the great northern route as an alternative to Suez -especially after that ship grounding

It looks like more of a Panama Canal bypass than the Suez. And, even that looks limited.

 

[Litwin]

meaningless Russia bashing..

A third invasion of Ukraine in 2021 is also a much more dangerous gamble for Putin than the one he took in 2014-15. US President Biden has made it clear he'll offer "unwavering support" to Kiev. Washington's mindset is irrevocably hardened to the idea that Russia is a threat. And Ukrainian leader Zelensky, as politically and militarily inexperienced as he is, will doubtless benefit domestically from being dragged into a conflict he hasn't started.
Yet two enduring, unquantifiable risks remain. The first is that Putin may see, among all the chaos of the next few weeks, a moment of opportunity to strike, and simply decide to deal with the consequences later. The second is the inevitable peril of amassing angry forces on both sides of an already active front line. An unanticipated error or surge by either party could spiral into a bigger war.




Russian forces are massing on Ukraine's border. Bluff or not, Putin is playing with fire | Analysis by
@npwcnn



CNN International

@cnni

https://cnn.it/31XwBwZ
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/04/09/europe/russian-forces-ukraine-border-analysis-intl/index.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twCNNi&utm_content=2021-04-09T15%3A06%3A07&utm_term=image

 

[Fledermaus]

A third invasion of Ukraine in 2021 is also a much more dangerous gamble for Putin than the one he took in 2014-15. US President Biden has made it clear he'll offer "unwavering support" to Kiev. Washington's mindset is irrevocably hardened to the idea that Russia is a threat. And Ukrainian leader Zelensky, as politically and militarily inexperienced as he is, will doubtless benefit domestically from being dragged into a conflict he hasn't started.
Yet two enduring, unquantifiable risks remain. The first is that Putin may see, among all the chaos of the next few weeks, a moment of opportunity to strike, and simply decide to deal with the consequences later. The second is the inevitable peril of amassing angry forces on both sides of an already active front line. An unanticipated error or surge by either party could spiral into a bigger war.


Russian forces are massing on Ukraine's border. Bluff or not, Putin is playing with fire | Analysis by
@npwcnn

CNN International
@cnni

https://cnn.it/31XwBwZ
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/04/09/europe/russian-forces-ukraine-border-analysis-intl/index.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twCNNi&utm_content=2021-04-09T15%3A06%3A07&utm_term=image

Isn't this the same RUSSIA that you claimed wasn't attacking?

 

[anatta]

It looks like more of a Panama Canal bypass than the Suez. And, even that looks limited.

no it's along Russia's northern coast -they are preparring it under the assumption of global warming
so Europe to China would not have to go thru teh Suez

ANALYSIS - Russia seeks to create alternative to Suez Canal via Northern Sea Route

Russia emphasizes Northern Sea Route, made more navigable by global warming, as alternative to Suez Canal after recent jam - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

 

[Tigerace117]

around 132.000.000 , less than in Nigeria , Bangladesh, P-stan, Indonesia , Brazil , etc.


"
The territory of Russia is 17.075.260 square meters. km and mainly lies north of 55 ° N.
Approximately 85% of the territory is not suitable for permanent comfortable living of the population. permafrost (areas of Siberia and the Far East) occupies 60% of the territory of Russia, swamps and wetlands almost 22%, rivers and lakes about 4%. Another part of the land is periodically flooded, part is occupied by mountains and forests, a little under ravines, part under deserts and solonchaks.

According to the State Statistics Committee's report for 2005, in Russia 2.2 million square meters of agricultural land are cultivated or used in agriculture. km, of which only 1.2 million for arable land, 0.2 million square kilometers are occupied by settlements of all types in the country. km, for industrial facilities and for military purposes 0.2 million, for other 0.1 million.
For a happy life, the Russians still have 2.561.289 square meters. km.
This is 15% of the territory ie. real Russia is slightly larger than Sudan, but less than Kazakhstan.
Average temperatures in January, in different regions, from 0 to -50 ° C, in July from 1 to 25 ° C, precipitation falls from 150 to 2000 mm per year.
At temperatures below -5 ° C, the maintenance costs of the infrastructure with each degree below zero increase exponentially.
Snow removal in the thickness of 40 cm in St. Petersburg takes more than 30 days.
63% of Russians with incomes above the national average would like their children to study and work abroad.
35% want their children to live abroad permanently.
The average Russian consumes 18 liters of alcohol per year. According to the conclusion of UN experts, the annual consumption of 8 liters of alcohol per capita leads to a serious degradation of the population.
In Russia, a pack of cigarettes can be bought for 30 cents, a bottle of beer, which can be bought at every corner 24 hours a day, is cheaper than a bottle of drinking water.
Only 1% of the water consumed by Russians meets the world quality standards.

more GosStat numbers :

"Nigeria in SNOW" (other names Ulus of Juchi, Muscovy ) in facts, weakly updates

"Nigeria in SNOW" (other names Ulus of Juchi, Muscovy ) in facts, weakly updates . ps and Yes i Know putelerstan is not "Nigeria in SNOW" anymore, its "Somalia in SNOW" "Russia" (Ulus of Juchi) in numbers , statistic, facts . comments ? "just some numbers : The territory of Russia is...

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so new, dont you think that we have to help Moscow and its colonies?

There will never be an American Barbarossa. Get over it. Nobody in the US feels obligated to help you “win” your ethnic feud.

 

[anatta]

screw Ukraine -why are we securing a Russian border state with Zelensky clamoring for NATO?
EAstern Ukraine is Russian oriented

If John McCain and Vicky Nuland weren't on the ground at teh Euromaidan -maybe the revolution would n have happened, and forced Putin to annex Crimea for secure acces to Sevastopol

 

[Litwin]

If John McCain and Vicky Nuland weren't on the ground at teh Euromaidan -maybe the revolution would n have happened, and forced Putin to annex Crimea for secure acces to Sevastopol

Putin might not be starting a new war with Ukraine. Moscow is already at war with Ukraine. Ant new moscow military action would be an escalation of an ongoing military & intelligence operation in occupied Ukrainian territory.

ps
" McCain and Vicky Nuland weren't on the ground at teh Euromaidan " I got a clear vatnik BINGO here

 

[Fledermaus]

Putin might not be starting a new war with Ukraine. Moscow is already at war with Ukraine. Ant new moscow military action would be an escalation of an ongoing military & intelligence operation in occupied Ukrainian territory.

ps
" McCain and Vicky Nuland weren't on the ground at teh Euromaidan " I got a clear vatnik BINGO here

<Snipped Irrelevant picture>

Vicky Nuland was on the ground at Euromaidan.

 

[Litwin]

Vicky Nuland was on the ground at Euromaidan.

I love her, great American statesman and the real Lady , all Moscow trolls hate her , she is the Satan in eyes of moscow´s propaganda , the main target for TV.ru much like Hilary and Soras

 

[anatta]

I love her, great American statesman and the real Lady , all Moscow trolls hate her , she is the Satan in eyes of moscow´s propaganda , the main target for TV.ru much like Hilary and Soras

she's a Russiaphobic maniac -the same on that say "**** the EU -she undermined Obama "Russian reset" along w/McCain
your info is a hot mess.. McCain stood with Svoboda members

John McCain Went To Ukraine And Stood On Stage With A Man Accused Of Being An Anti-Semitic Neo-Nazi

www.businessinsider.com

 

[Fledermaus]

I love her, great American statesman and the real Lady , all Moscow trolls hate her , she is the Satan in eyes of moscow´s propaganda , the main target for TV.ru much like Hilary and Soras

Litwin saying Victoria Nuland was not on the ground at Euromaiden is a TV.lt lie.

And you keep misspelling RUSSIA.

 

[iguanaman]

As usual, Russia is fighting for the Oil that no one will need in 20-30 years and testing weapons they can never use. No wonder the people starve.

Beware that we are financing Putin's efforts with oil sales and he does not care about his people. His goal is to blackmail the world with his weapons like the thug he is.

 

[anatta]

Beware that we are financing Putin's efforts with oil sales and he does not care about his people. His goal is to blackmail the world with his weapons like the thug he is.

lol no.. his goal is to make his economy more then a "glorified gas station" (McCain)

 

[iguanaman]

lol no.. his goal is to make his economy more then a "glorified gas station" (McCain)

By securing more oil?

 

[anatta]

By securing more oil?

all he has now is a extractive economy. he wants western banking access (etc) and sanction relief.
Our sanction drive him close to China - Russian weapons and Chinese money is not a good thing for us

 

[iguanaman]

all he has now is a extractive economy. he wants western banking access (etc) and sanction relief.
Our sanction drive him close to China - Russian weapons and Chinese money is not a good thing for us

The Chinese are not a part of this. Putin is continuing his aggression and will get more sanctions not less. The Chinese have far different needs than him. They depend on our trade and our economy for their well being. Putin not so much. He has vowed to destroy all democracies us included.

 

[Litwin]

lol no.. his goal is to make his economy more then a "glorified gas station" (McCain)

you are wrong as usual, poogabe´s main goal to make himself and his buddies the super - rich
Vladimir Putin Is Richer Than Jeff Bezos and Bill Gates ...
https://fortune.com › 2017/07/29 › vladimir-putin-russi...



— The Trump-Russia controversy might hinge on Putin's staggering ... as the wealthiest person in the world, according to Bloomberg's tracker.

Navalny Broke YouTube record "investigation into decadent billion-dollar 'czar Putin Babylon palace"

Navalny Broke YouTube record "investigation into decadent billion-dollar 'czar Putin Babylon palace" https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/20/europe/putin-palace-navalny-russia-intl/index.html you can use subtitles function , one for sure Pootin became a typicality oriental khan without any...

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[Fledermaus]

you are wrong as usual, poogabe´s main goal to make himself and his buddies the super - rich
Vladimir Putin Is Richer Than Jeff Bezos and Bill Gates ...
https://fortune.com › 2017/07/29 › vladimir-putin-russi...



— The Trump-Russia controversy might hinge on Putin's staggering ... as the wealthiest person in the world, according to Bloomberg's tracker.

Navalny Broke YouTube record "investigation into decadent billion-dollar 'czar Putin Babylon palace"

Navalny Broke YouTube record "investigation into decadent billion-dollar 'czar Putin Babylon palace" https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/20/europe/putin-palace-navalny-russia-intl/index.html you can use subtitles function , one for sure Pootin became a typicality oriental khan without any...

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There is no "Pugabe".