Thrilla
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The last two Republican presidential debates have both featured the audience cheering about death. I personally think the reaction last week, when they cheered the number of executions in Texas under Perry, is far scarier.
One of the Tea Party biggies, a former Flight Attendant, was on CNN with Don Lemon before the debate.Ive been saying this and I will say it again...The more the teaparty and their supporters talk...the worse they look
The last two Republican presidential debates have both featured the audience cheering about death. I personally think the reaction last week, when they cheered the number of executions in Texas under Perry, is far scarier.
What exactly is wrong with cheering on executions? The death penalty is a policy we on the right proudly support..
That completely nullifies the idea that alternatives exist. There are alternatives to creating a single payer system or overstepping legal bounds and mandating the purchase of a product.
Like I said, I see nothing wrong with what was yelled out in Tampa. It was politically incorrect at worst.
You should never enjoy it, even if you agree with it. You do it relcutantly, just as you go to war with a heavy heart. Someone will be hurt by this, someone innocent. Killing anyone, for any reason, just or not, effects someone else.
At least Perry didn't say that. Good for him.
im not cheering for the death of any particular person. Im cheering for the presence of the institution of the death penalty
Not many in which someone won't be irresponsible (the legal bounds is still debatable BTW). We will have someone, a number of someones, who will be hurt, run up costs that they will never be able to pay for. That cost will be passed on one way or another.
I understand you being more concerned with your own personal situation. But that doesn't change much.
Nor does a single payer system have to have only one MRI for x number of people. Here the system would be two tiered. But, without some system to handle those who are irresponsible, we will be left with a choice of either paying for them one way or another, or allowing some to die.
Do you not think that "we must take care of the irresponsible because their irresponsible" is a pretty bad method of handling such an issue?
And it isn't just my individual situation. Limited access affects everybody, and it is a persistent problem in single payer systems, even those with a two-tier design. Once they start sucking up more of my money for healthcare how am I supposed to afford private insurance on top of it?? Most countries with single payer have effective tax rates close to 50%. I'd have about 16k in accessible money to get me through a year and I've got to pay rent, buy food, pay car payments, pay for my cell phone, pay for school, pay for insurance, try to save, etc.
So I have to think it would be better for the people as a whole to try other options before we start taxing people at a higher rate to cover a program that seems to me to be the most drastic option available, given the possibilities.
Doesn't matter. That institution kills real people, with real families, who suffer real pain. Cheering it has the same effect. You may honestly agree with, but it is a somber institution that warrents a sober reaction. Cheering doesn't fit.
Save your breath. The rightwingers, as a whole, can not understand compassion, as they regularly demonstrate.
Ive been saying this and I will say it again...The more the teaparty and their supporters talk...the worse they look
I'm disheartened (but not surprised) by this. I've looked at both sides of this argument, but it comes down to doing the right thing for me. There have always been poor and irresponsible people, always. There always will be poor and irresponsible people. There are also people who have made some bad decisions and reaped horrible consequences - hopefully said person learns something. IMO you don't throw away people because of circumstances and bad decisions, you give them another chance. That doesn't mean they don't have to also help themselves.
I cannot advocate letting people die, or go without healthcare or food or shelter (unless they choose to do so). I also don't advocate hand-outs for the rest of your life because you're lazy, ignorant, etc. There has to be a compromise that is workable. My city offers a Hand-Up for single women on welfare. They help them get into college, help them get a part-time job (until their degree is complete - then it's on to full-time), help them find adequate and affordable day-care, help them get transportation (we have no public transportation that actually works), help them choose affordable insurance, etc., etc. Of course this is not cheap. However, our tax dollars (as far as I know, other than the groups tax-free status) aren't supporting this - companies, individuals, churches, groups, etc., - are.
I realize this is small-scale compared to the entire country, but... it's an idea!
Ok, rant over.
buncha bs.......the bigger problem here is that TEA PARTIERS shouted "let him die"...and TEA PARTIERS cheered executions. makes me wonder why anyone would be a part of that movement. has michelle bachmann produced the name of the woman who ALLEGEDLY said her daughter "got" mental retardation after the gardisil vaccine? gotta love those tea partiers, though, they are probably trying to outlaw that vaccine as i write.
paul is the most honest person running for the nomination. unfortunately, he's also bat**** crazy.
So let us get this straight....a bunch of teabaggers say they think we should just let them die, so it's wrong to point out that the teabaggers think we should just let them die?
Is that why you dishonestly made up that BS about a "diatribe" against "almost half the country"?
Doesn't matter. That institution kills real people, with real families, who suffer real pain. Cheering it has the same effect. You may honestly agree with, but it is a somber institution that warrents a sober reaction. Cheering doesn't fit.
So let me get this straight....Perry comes out against the reaction of the crowd in that particular situation and instead of saying, "yeah, he's right..that was bad on them" you turn it into some sort of diatribe against almost half of the country?
Well, hell...
Sure it fits. I see nothing fundamentally wrong with cheering on an institution that not only deters crime but administers proportional justice.
Sure it fits. I see nothing fundamentally wrong with cheering on an institution that not only deters crime but administers proportional justice.
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