Drake McHugh
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The "experts" and their "scientific models" have failed to predict anything correctly yet. I think as far as sciences go, the whole "climatology" science is about as far from being actually scientific as anything we've ever called science. .
Ai contraire. The models back in the 80s called it pretty well. The temperatures have risen in step with what would be expected from our CO2 emissions.
And you might not consider it science, but, and dozens of other scientific organizations over your BS interpretive dance thoughts.I'll take the word of the National Science Foundation, the Royal Society, the AAAS
Ai contraire. The models back in the 80s called it pretty well. The temperatures have risen in step with what would be expected from our CO2 emissions.
And you might not consider it science, but I'll take the word of the National Science Foundation, the Royal Society, the AAAS, and dozens of other scientific organizations over your BS interpretive dance thoughts.
Earlier this week, House Republicans quietly blocked a proposal that would institute the position of science laureate of the United States. It was expected to sail by--after all, who could possibly have a problem with an honorary position that costs the taxpayers absolutely nothing, the goal of which is to promote science education? House Republicans, apparently.
In the United States, the position of laureate--the only national one of which is the poet laureate--is a largely ceremonial position. The poet laureate receives a small stipend of $35,000 a year and is given a platform to promote poetry and literature through readings, appearances, and new projects (some have promoted African diaspora poetry, some have attempted to get poetry and fiction into places like airports and waiting rooms, some have encouraged early education). The proposed science laureate would have a similar duty: Mazie Hirono, the Hawaii Democrat who co-sponsored the bill, described it as "a national role model who can encourage students to learn more about the sciences. By elevating great American scientific communicators, we can empower students--especially girls and minorities--to get excited about science." It would be an unpaid position, to be held by up to three notable American scientists.
The proposal should have passed easily. But last week, Larry Hart, a former Republican congressional aide and current representative of the American Conservative Union (the country's oldest politically conservative lobbying group), sent a letter to House Republicans claiming that this position is far from benign. Hart writes that the laureate, appointed by President Obama, "will share his view that science should serve political ends, on such issues as climate change and regulation of greenhouse gases.”
Republicans promptly pulled support for the bill, taking it off the floor schedule, meaning it may or may not ever actually see the floor again. At best, if there's pressure, it may be re-introduced in a few months. If it does, it'll face opposition from various anti-climate-change groups. Or the bill may just die.
Republicans Block Proposal For National Science Laureate, Fearing Science | Popular Science
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On surface this appear to motivated by curtailing government spending, however by looking at past behaviors, it is clear that Republicans most scary enemy is science specially fact and figures. So of course in order to prevent themselves from spiraling down the chute of irrelevancy and obscurity they have decided to attack Science from all Fronts After all less knowledge and more ignorance does seem to promote their cause and helps them keep their jobs.
It is funny how far we gone back. There use to be a time where Engineers and Scientist were revered and worshiped in this country, but now in the eyes of republicans that is called being elitist, combating ignorance with science data and fact is actually a handicapped. Phrases like "I don't have facts and figures but I believe..." is unmet with challenge or questions. Counterpoint of personal facts to contrary with fact and figures is called ambush journalism..
Country that was at the forefront of science is now lingering on periphery thanks to 30 years of republican policies and their never ending war on Science.
Diving Mullah
ROFLMOF
Please tell me you are not confusing NIPCC "Report" with IPCC..???
Diving Mullah
Okay.
Now how about listing the opposing positions and why they're wrong.
absolutely false,only young earth creationists believe the earth is 6000 years old base off mumbo jumbo math from the bible,and blatently ignore the fact the bible never says how old the earth is.
saying republicans believe that is like saying all democrats believe in spitting on soldiers because 1 out of 1,000,000 actually did it,therefore all did it.
Unfortunately though, the Republicans in the House and Senate seem to love to put overt YECs on science committees. That doesn't suggest the GOP at the Federal level at least isn't scientifically backward.
The government should have no "science committee."
It's not their job to legitimize theories or ideas through a government panel or promote certain ideas while ignoring ideas that contradict those ideas
Besides the whole idea of this panel is to demonize industry in an attempt to pick and choose winners and losers in an attempt to control the economy and the general public
This is 1984 Orwellian territory
The federal government is attempting a totalitarian power grab with Obmacare and now an official science panel....
They're going to brainwash you with whats bad (science panel) then tax the hell out of whatever they say is bad via scare tactics and cite "health care costs" (Obamacare) for that and the ****ing idiotic American public will buy it hook line and sinker........
The state has an interest in teaching people proper science for the growth of the economy.
Second, the state should be promoting what is known to be true rather than what people wish to be true.
Third, the state has a vested interest in funding R&D for economic growth, especially as every other country does so and refusal to do so would hamper American companies and cost America growth.
Demonize industry? Do you have any idea what the science committees in the House and Senate do? And government picks winners and losers every time they spend a dollar. The entire defense budget is picking winners and losers.
Only if you've never read anything Orwell wrote.
Wow. Tinfoil hat there.
You're pretty misinformed and shortsighted.
Maybe you should take your tinfoil hat off and understand that the government only cares about themselves and many of our representatives, whom are mostly democrats only care about their cushy jobs and salary and will do anything and everything to remain in their positions - not only that but are blatant communists themselves
Why you think they want gun regulations or gun bans???
Oh so the citizen cannot stand up against them and overthrow them...
35,000 people die everyday 100 of them due to gun violence and 90 of those people die at the hands of people who legally shouldn't have a gun (gang bangers).... Why guns?? what makes guns so ****ing special?
Oh yeah because the government has guns and you can't bring a knife to a gunfight....
I was born and raised an ultra conservative
Republican. I think to be a Republican today you have to lay aside reality and your patriotism. Education sucks because the Republicans found out teachers are sometimes in unions. Science is Junk because evidence abounds man contributes to global warming and the Repubs and big oil...well you get the picture. They are no longer American, they are simply antiObama.
With no other problems facing America, I think it is very important that this be resolved.
How about a Science Czar who can regulate the age of the Earth? Now, that would be useful:roll:
This outta to be good.
You couldn't even figure out that the Science commitees I was talking about were preexisting in the House and Senate and have nothing to do with the small denied position as well as Obamacare.
I'm misinformed and shortsighted but you couldn't even figure out what committees I was discussing?
That's rich.
Do you have anything other than partisan vomit to say?
And how is that relevant to anything I said?
You insult me and then utterly and completely fail to point out how ANYTHING I said was wrong.
I understand what I have said may seem outrageous but if I told you the government is reading your emails 3 years ago you would have said "put your tin foil hat on."
I understand everything you have to say but your ideas are not unique - they're typical - you're labeling me as a "tin foil hat" lunatic for explaining to you the intent of Obamacare.
I understand what I have said may seem outrageous but if I told you the government is reading your emails 3 years ago you would have said "put your tin foil hat on."
Agreed.
Seriously, aren't there any more pressing issues they can waste their time with?
Isn't there a post office in Sheep Springs, New Mexico they can re-name?
Maybe pass an integral resolution to name a park in West Salmon Falls, Idaho after some liberal cheeseweenie?
I know!.. Pass an EXTREMELY IMPORTANT bill to name March 17th as "National Crown Roast of Pork Day!" ...oh wait...they already did that.
Unfortunately though, the Republicans in the House and Senate seem to love to put overt YECs on science committees. That doesn't suggest the GOP at the Federal level at least isn't scientifically backward.
(Citation needed)
Actually, it appears you don't understand as you were unable to figure out what committees I was talking about.
Electronic surveillance is hardly new. Also, 3 years is off. More like 2008, so 5 years. Stellar Wind was doing this under Bush.
You're lost... "electronic surveillance is hardly new" - yea that proves you're down with the ideas..
Earlier this week, House Republicans quietly blocked a proposal that would institute the position of science laureate of the United States. It was expected to sail by--after all, who could possibly have a problem with an honorary position that costs the taxpayers absolutely nothing, the goal of which is to promote science education? House Republicans, apparently.
In the United States, the position of laureate--the only national one of which is the poet laureate--is a largely ceremonial position. The poet laureate receives a small stipend of $35,000 a year and is given a platform to promote poetry and literature through readings, appearances, and new projects (some have promoted African diaspora poetry, some have attempted to get poetry and fiction into places like airports and waiting rooms, some have encouraged early education). The proposed science laureate would have a similar duty: Mazie Hirono, the Hawaii Democrat who co-sponsored the bill, described it as "a national role model who can encourage students to learn more about the sciences. By elevating great American scientific communicators, we can empower students--especially girls and minorities--to get excited about science." It would be an unpaid position, to be held by up to three notable American scientists.
The proposal should have passed easily. But last week, Larry Hart, a former Republican congressional aide and current representative of the American Conservative Union (the country's oldest politically conservative lobbying group), sent a letter to House Republicans claiming that this position is far from benign. Hart writes that the laureate, appointed by President Obama, "will share his view that science should serve political ends, on such issues as climate change and regulation of greenhouse gases.”
Republicans promptly pulled support for the bill, taking it off the floor schedule, meaning it may or may not ever actually see the floor again. At best, if there's pressure, it may be re-introduced in a few months. If it does, it'll face opposition from various anti-climate-change groups. Or the bill may just die.
Republicans Block Proposal For National Science Laureate, Fearing Science | Popular Science
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
On surface this appear to motivated by curtailing government spending, however by looking at past behaviors, it is clear that Republicans most scary enemy is science specially fact and figures. So of course in order to prevent themselves from spiraling down the chute of irrelevancy and obscurity they have decided to attack Science from all Fronts After all less knowledge and more ignorance does seem to promote their cause and helps them keep their jobs.
It is funny how far we gone back. There use to be a time where Engineers and Scientist were revered and worshiped in this country, but now in the eyes of republicans that is called being elitist, combating ignorance with science data and fact is actually a handicapped. Phrases like "I don't have facts and figures but I believe..." is unmet with challenge or questions. Counterpoint of personal facts to contrary with fact and figures is called ambush journalism..
Country that was at the forefront of science is now lingering on periphery thanks to 30 years of republican policies and their never ending war on Science.
Diving Mullah
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