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Report On The Puerto Rico Democratic Primary Crisis

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You would think that after 250 years of elections, there would not be such huge problems around the country just attempting to cast your ballot.

People are passing out or fainting standing in line. And it is being held on a Sunday when only half the buses are running.

Report On The Puerto Rico Democratic Primary Crisis
A summary of the crisis in the upcoming Democratic Primary in Puerto Rico, including the abrupt closing of 2/3 of polling places, the Puerto Rico Democratic Party's refusal to certify poll workers, constantly shifting lists of polling places, and denial of observers at early voting in the prisons, among other issues.
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June 03, 2016
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You would think that after 250 years of elections, there would not be such huge problems around the country just attempting to cast your ballot.

People are passing out or fainting standing in line. And it is being held on a Sunday when only half the buses are running.

Report On The Puerto Rico Democratic Primary Crisis
A summary of the crisis in the upcoming Democratic Primary in Puerto Rico, including the abrupt closing of 2/3 of polling places, the Puerto Rico Democratic Party's refusal to certify poll workers, constantly shifting lists of polling places, and denial of observers at early voting in the prisons, among other issues.
By Kurt William Hackbarth
June 03, 2016
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9Df-Poz3Eo

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Ya think maybe it has something to do with that debt crisis that has caused them to have to dramatically reduce government services?
 

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Ya think maybe it has something to do with that debt crisis that has caused them to have to dramatically reduce government services?

I am not sure, but don't the political parties pay for the cost of primaries?

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Ya think maybe it has something to do with that debt crisis that has caused them to have to dramatically reduce government services?
Nah homie.

It can't possibly be that. [emoji57]
 

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'Total Bunk': Sanders Campaign Denies Responsibility for Long Lines in Puerto Rico Primary
Media Report Stated Sanders Campaign Had Requested Fewer Polling Sites
By David Badash
June 06, 2016
'Total Bunk': Sanders Campaign Denies Responsibility for Long Lines in Puerto Rico Primary - The New Civil Rights Movement

NBC News National Reporter Tony Dokoupil announced on-air Sunday Liza Ortiz said the reason the polling stations had been cut so dramatically, by two-thirds, from 1510 to 432, was the Sanders campaign did not have enough volunteers.

As NCRM reported Sunday, Puerto Rico is in debt by about $70 billion, forcing austerity measures that include slashing the amount of money for primaries. The GOP primary in March was worse. Polling stations were cut from 1500 to 110.

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Democratic Primary Riddled In Election Fraud; Do NOT Speak of Theft as Hillary Clinton Win
It is imperative that we do not allow ourselves to be drawn into discussing the Democratic Primary in the false media narratives of lies and deceit woven to install Clinton into the Democratic Presidential nomination. The level of dishonest and corruption is vast. Clinton isn't winning, she is cheating and it is time to stop discussing theft as victory.
The 'front runner' who speaks to empty rooms'
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Democratic Primary Riddled In Election Fraud; Do NOT Speak of Theft as Hillary Clinton Win
It is imperative that we do not allow ourselves to be drawn into discussing the Democratic Primary in the false media narratives of lies and deceit woven to install Clinton into the Democratic Presidential nomination. The level of dishonest and corruption is vast. Clinton isn't winning, she is cheating and it is time to stop discussing theft as victory.
The 'front runner' who speaks to empty rooms'
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Yes, she forced 3 million more people to come out and vote for her, probably at gun point...
 

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Yes, she forced 3 million more people to come out and vote for her, probably at gun point...

Why Clinton’s Claim Of Having 3 Million More Votes Than Sanders Is A Total Lie
By Sydney Robinson
May 19, 2016

".... the 3 million vote advantage Clinton holds is a lie.

This is due to the fact that primary races don’t just feature voters going out and casting a ballot. Instead, several states opt to hold caucuses where a group of representatives vouch for their candidate. The candidate with the most representatives in the room wins in that district, and the candidate which wins the most districts is the winner of the state.

One interesting feature of this alternate method of primary choosing is that actual individual votes are not gathered, thus, no votes go to the winning candidate. Bernie Sanders has tended to win most caucusing states. Though Sanders may sweep a state, sometimes taking more than 70 percent of the caucus vote, these numbers do not translate to individual popular votes, thus adding nothing to the overall tally. These are states with millions of Sanders supporters, who, due to the system in their state, are not counted among the millions in competition with Clinton’s big number advantage."....
 

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Why Clinton’s Claim Of Having 3 Million More Votes Than Sanders Is A Total Lie
By Sydney Robinson
May 19, 2016

".... the 3 million vote advantage Clinton holds is a lie.

This is due to the fact that primary races don’t just feature voters going out and casting a ballot. Instead, several states opt to hold caucuses where a group of representatives vouch for their candidate. The candidate with the most representatives in the room wins in that district, and the candidate which wins the most districts is the winner of the state.

One interesting feature of this alternate method of primary choosing is that actual individual votes are not gathered, thus, no votes go to the winning candidate. Bernie Sanders has tended to win most caucusing states. Though Sanders may sweep a state, sometimes taking more than 70 percent of the caucus vote, these numbers do not translate to individual popular votes, thus adding nothing to the overall tally. These are states with millions of Sanders supporters, who, due to the system in their state, are not counted among the millions in competition with Clinton’s big number advantage."....

Sanders has won caucuses in part because they are small and motivated, loud supporters help. If they had been primaries in that state, Sanders may not have won. And that does exactly nothing to change the 3 million vote lead Clinton has, and the pledge delegate lead, and the lead in every single other category. Sanders lost, and he lost because he was not good enough at convincing democrats to vote for him.
 

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Sanders has won caucuses in part because they are small and motivated, loud supporters help. If they had been primaries in that state, Sanders may not have won. And that does exactly nothing to change the 3 million vote lead Clinton has, and the pledge delegate lead, and the lead in every single other category. Sanders lost, and he lost because he was not good enough at convincing democrats to vote for him.

And Hillary might lose because she might not be good enough at convincing independents to vote for her. Which is why the Dems should allow indy's to vote in their primaries.
 

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And Hillary might lose because she might not be good enough at convincing independents to vote for her. Which is why the Dems should allow indy's to vote in their primaries.

So you are saying democrats should let some one other than democrats pick their nominee. Thanks, but no thanks. We don't want independents picking Trump 2.0 on us...err, I mean Sanders.
 

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So you are saying democrats should let some one other than democrats pick their nominee. Thanks, but no thanks. We don't want independents picking Trump 2.0 on us...err, I mean Sanders.

They should give the nod to the person in the democratic primary who gives the dems the best chance to win in the general. That means the one whose best at drawing indy's.
 

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They should give the nod to the person in the democratic primary who gives the dems the best chance to win in the general. That means the one whose best at drawing indy's.

So now that Sanders has lost, you want to change all the rules so that votes, the will of the people, and all the stuff Sanders was crying about earlier, all of that is ignored and Sanders is handed the nomination so he can lose, and embarrass the party in doing so? Thank you for the offer, but I think we will pass.
 

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So now that Sanders has lost, you want to change all the rules so that votes, the will of the people, and all the stuff Sanders was crying about earlier, all of that is ignored and Sanders is handed the nomination so he can lose, and embarrass the party in doing so? Thank you for the offer, but I think we will pass.

Amazing straw man you built there. I don't want to retroactively change any rules. So that is just you making crap up. And he's dominating Trump in polls while Hillary is either winning or losing withing the margin of error of the polls. Oh... and I like how you believe you speak for all democrats.

"we will pass"

Nice self appointed title you have there.
 

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Amazing straw man you built there. I don't want to retroactively change any rules. So that is just you making crap up. And he's dominating Trump in polls while Hillary is either winning or losing withing the margin of error of the polls. Oh... and I like how you believe you speak for all democrats.

"we will pass"

Nice self appointed title you have there.

No one is running against Sanders, of course he is ahead in the polls. He is such an easy target though, he would get destroyed. How many Stalin, Mao and Hitler morphing into Sanders adds would we see nightly if he got the nomination...
 

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And Hillary's FBI and DOJ investigation is totally not.

And she is being attacked for them. Nobody bothers attacking Sanders, because he lost.
 

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And Trump will win.

Don't know if Trump will win but he has a much better shot at it running against Hillary. She's about the only person in America with negatives anywhere close to Trumps negatives.
 

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Sanders has lost. He needs to get out and support Hillary. If he doesn't it shows that he is nothing but a selfish old fool.
 

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Yuh know, I did not watch the speech this morning, and relied on mainstream media to give it to me in a nutshell.

And all I heard from CNN and MSNBC between 6 and 9 am was that Sanders response was as expected of a loser.

But, I have now viewed his speech and it is pretty angry-like ..... pretty much in your face about the System itself.

Bernie Sanders Primary Night Speech Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders delivered remarks to supporters in Santa Monica, California.
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Bernie Sanders Addresses Supporters Santa Monica | Video | C-SPAN.org

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Yuh know, I did not watch the speech this morning, and relied on mainstream media to give it to me in a nutshell.

And all I heard from CNN and MSNBC between 6 and 9 am was that Sanders response was as expected of a loser.

But, I have now viewed his speech and it is pretty angry-like ..... pretty much in your face about the System itself.

Bernie Sanders Primary Night Speech Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders delivered remarks to supporters in Santa Monica, California.
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Bernie Sanders Addresses Supporters Santa Monica | Video | C-SPAN.org

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Not having a dog in the fight, Id say Sanders has a right to be angry. it has been obvious since the get-go that Debbie Wasserman Schultz and the party machine wanted Hillary. Everything was built around the support of a Hillary for president campaign before candidates even declared. She went into the campaign with a 500+ delegate lead before the first vote was ever cast.

Their party, their rules, but you cant avoid the facts. Hillary was not 'nominated' or elected as the dem challenger for President...she was selected for coronation.
 
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