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Maybe you can explain to us mortals?You seem to not understand what wars are about....
Maybe you can explain to us mortals?You seem to not understand what wars are about....
The right has finally started admitting this is what they want.It is a good conditional surrender. It will stop the loss of life.
Spoils of war.Interesting choice of words, though I would bet you don't even recognize why.
They do "occupy" that territory. It wasn't theirs to "occupy". It was sovereign territory of another nation, and it seems that you are perfectly fine with rewarding the behavior that got us to this point. I just can't for the life of me figure out why.
They should walk away because they took it by force.
Funny how quick peace came when Trump withdrew military funding and aid from Ukraine.
Democrats are about to blow up, this will not make them happy.
The left are so pathetic
Thats nice. Considering that it's a giveaway to the Russians, there is zero chance Ukraine will sign it.
- U.S. President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin agreed on steps toward a total ceasefire and peace deal to end the war in Ukraine, the White House said.
- Trump and Putin agreed to begin "with an energy and infrastructure ceasefire," according to a White House readout of a call between the two leaders.
- The call came weeks after a heated televised clash between Trump, Vice President JD Vance and the Ukrainian leader Zelenskyy.
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Have you seen that joke of an agreement?Is it day one again?
Sort like the man with the funny mustache, right?Spoils of war.
Russia: stops hitting energy infrastructure, but can cheerfully keep hitting hospitals and apartment buildings, as well as attacking on the ground.
Ukraine: Can't hit oil refineries, can't train any more troops or accept weapons or intel.
Trump has to be the worst negotiator in history.
It would leave a million more Ukrainian's vulnerable to Putin's murderers and put Ukraine in a very bad position when Putin attacks again. Ukraine will never surrender land that the Russians have failed to capture.It is a good conditional surrender. It will stop the loss of life.
Trump is playing to his base.It's total bullshit.
Putin threw him a bone, he wants that territory, that land, and this preserves infrastructure and resources in it, etc. Basic self-interest.
What about killing civilians? What about returning 20,000 children? POTUS just sucking Putin **** again.
And Zelensky still has to agree. I hope he doesnt.
Trump is playing to his base.
"I GOT A WONDERFUL BEAUTIFUL YUGE CEASEFIRE TREAY AND ZELNSKY WOULDN'T SIGN IT! RUDE!"
In a real negotiation both sides make concessions. These are not real negotiations at all and that is obvious. Winter is nearly over and Putin has already destroyed much of their energy infrastructure. Putin has plenty more oil refineries for Ukraine to hit. Zelensky agreed to a total ceasefire for 30 days and Putin has rejected it. That is the news of the day. Putin does not want peace and will only agree to things that help him destroy Ukraine.There were previous agreements before on the most Ukraine could have. Now I do not know how this one is different, but if you are going to bring that up, you should compare the new and old numbers.
This is why I don't value their opinion.Well of course, the subjects dont look any further than the king tells them.
This is why I don't value their opinion.
Luce,
Has no king but Elvis.
Beats sniffing Putin's arsehole, doesn't it? I mean like Trump does, as Putin's Official Dirty Little Whore™.The left are such peaceniks aren't they? They are and always were liars and hypocrites. If they weren't, they wouldn't be leftists at all.
Cry for us. Let's see those big salty tears.They would literally rather WW3 rather than admit their party they support are nothing but grifters who've bamboozled them their entire brainwashed lives.
I'm just enjoying @Theowl32 telling us we're warmongers because we want a nation to defend itself from an invading neighbor.Someone should tell them it's not really "their" opinion.![]()
TRUMP DID IT