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Re-read the OP.
The current ones are all "defund the police" and "pronouns"....let me know when they revive their interest in simple working class issues, thanks.
RWNJs spend the rest of their lives sitting in their basements, hammering on their keyboards while muttering about "situational awareness" and stroking their AR15s.
Hitler, Stalin, and progressives share one thing that conservatives don't... They embrace socialism.
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Who is paying for this if not taxpayers?
Yes he did, but only the socialists that weren't loyal to the NAZI party... Unlike it is here in America where there are essentially 2 political parties where one supports socialism (democrats, progressives) and one very much opposes it (republicans, conservatives), Germany had several political parties/movements that embraced socialism that were on the left, the right and the center politically. Not long after gained power he outlawed all other political parties and political organizations.Hitler murdered every socialist he could get his hands on.......while American conservatives cheered him on.
Hitler represented a right wing ideology, so you are factually incorrect there.Hitler, Stalin, and progressives share one thing that conservatives don't... They embrace socialism.
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I said the 3 of them had socialism in common, not right or left ideologies.Hitler represented a right wing ideology, so you are factually incorrect there.
Republican's don't embrace those government programs, but they sure as hell can't defund them... Once you give people an entitlement, you can't take it away.Also, conservatives embrace plenty of socialism just selectively and as it benefits them personally. People who don't embrace socialism are known as libertarians. Proof: when was the last time the conservatives voted against social security, the post office, medicare (in fact they expanded it with part d), or things like infrastructure spending? All of those things tend to pass with bi-partisan support.
Your statement here is self contradictory.I said the 3 of them had socialism in common, not right or left ideologies.
See post #55.
Republicans have gone on record for all of these programs, they embrace socialism.Republican's don't embrace those government programs, but they sure as hell can't defund them... Once you give people an entitlement, you can't take it away.
As much as I agree with this, there's probably a better chance that there will be a complete cure for cancer before that happens, and we know what a big business cancer is. Power is benefitting too much from the current situation. There can be responsible capitalism, but they wouldn't have it all in that scenario and we know they absolutely must have it all. I have to say I do like the big eff you from those workers refusing to jobs for garbage pay.I would personally implement a universal basic income to replace all welfare and raise millions out of poverty, but that's not mainstream progressive agenda point, so I didn't include it. Even though it is becoming more widely supported by mainstream economics. However, crime is largely solved through raising the quality of living for the average citizen, which was addressed in the scenario.
Yes he did, but only the socialists that weren't loyal to the NAZI party... Unlike it is here in America where there are essentially 2 political parties where one supports socialism (democrats, progressives) and one very much opposes it (republicans, conservatives), Germany had several political parties/movements that embraced socialism that were on the left, the right and the center politically. Not long after gained power he outlawed all other political parties and political organizations.
Hitler's NAZI party believed the world needed to be saved from communism, capitalism/democracy, and the Jewish race.
"Herr Hitler has built up a force estimated at about 30,000 armed men, but he is keeping them in the background and is for the moment concentrating on trying to convert some of the less stable elements of the working classes in the Bavarian towns to his National Socialist programmes."--August 1923, Morgan Philips Price, the Daily Herald
Hitler despised communists, democratic socialists and any socialists who weren't national socialists (aka NAZIs).
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I never once said that Hitler was on the political left.Hitler wasn't anything remotely resembling LEFT at all, ever.
If you're saying (which you ARE) that Nazis are socialist, that IS what you're saying.I never once said that Hitler was on the political left.
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No, that's not what I'm saying.If you're saying (which you ARE) that Nazis are socialist, that IS what you're saying.
And you're digging yourself deeper and deeper into hidebound ignorance with every word you blurt out.No, that's not what I'm saying.
Socialism may be exclusive to the political left today, but back then socialism was accepted and supported in varying degrees by political parties and organizations in Germany and Europe that were on the left, the right and the center.
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I HAVE read the OP word for word.Re-read the OP.
I HAVE read the OP word for word.
I'm not against most progressive POLICIES.
I'm irritated to the last nerve by the BEHAVIOR OF the current crop of "shitty white progressives" who appear to be at war with Democrats.
Matt Taibbi, Glenn Greenwald, Jimmy Dore, it's like watching a real time demonstration of the Horseshoe Effect, where they go so far Left that they wind up coming around to the Extreme Right.
I love AOC, I think there's a lot that mainstream Dems need to listen to as regards progressive ideas.
But I am sick and tired of watching "perfect be the enemy of good" as the accelerationists hasten to cut loose a chunk of Dem support
Hey @Checkerboard Strangler:
Nancy Pelosi affirms support for U.S. Rep. Henry Cuellar after FBI raid, primary runoff berth
The U.S. House speaker said during a stop Wednesday in Austin that she always supports her incumbents — “from right to left.”www.texastribune.org
LOLOLOL. ****ing explain this.
You're mad at PROGRESSIVES for fighting for BETTER POLICIES, against a DEMOCRATIC MACHINE that HATES THEM more than REPUBLICANS.
They're not left, they're Alt Left at best. Largely grifters. The progressive movement doesn't embrace them.
Capitalism doesn’t need deconstructing. Just a 400 year service.That's a pretty good start, but how about deconstructing capitalism next?
I’m looking at an electric car with the plan of some panels and a knockoff Tesla wall to feed it (when I’m in town, anyway).Re: “green renewable energy”— even Kerrey admits that electric cars will be dependent on natural gas.
Climate activists are all about selling pipe dreams, and that’s what all of this is.
What drugs do you think should be legal? All of them? How would that not lead to far more massive concentrations of homeless people in the big cities?
It’s so easy to claim that Lib government can take care of everything if you could just get the conservatives out of the way. The fallacy of that notion is shown by the inflation Sleepy Joe unleashed, long before Ukraine, from trying to please Progressives.
I have no explanation.
Why try to make it look like I think people are perfect instead of arguing the points in the thread?
I think Pelosi is making a really stupid mistake here.
I am arguing against your premise, that the Democrats are 'good' and that progressives are acting against Democrats to the detriment of the GOOD POLICIES. That's precisely your argument.
What we have here is a clear example Pelosi acting in her own interest, and that of her corporate donors. Henry Cuellar is an anti-abortion corporate tool (nicknamed Trump's favorite Democrat) who actively sabotaged Biden's agenda, and JUST GOT RAIDED BY THE FBI. Pelosi endorsed him to prevent one more progressive from challenging her power. She hates progressives far, far more than any Republican. That's a fact. Republicans don't challenge her power, they help fuel her power.
Pelosi is corrupt, and as a general rule the Democrats are corrupt. The only ones who aren't corrupt are the Justice Democrats you complain about.
Trying to pin Jimmy Dore and (similar right-wing tools) on the progressives is also total garbage and brazenly dishonest.
Hey, vote for Trump then...what is it you want from me?
The Dems are corrupt and not worth anything to you, right?
PS: Jimmy Dore started out as LEFT
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