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Prioritizing the issues

coolrunner

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Out of these issues facing our nation today, how would you rank them in order of importance?

-Job Creation
-Gun Control
-Immigration Reform
-Reducing the national deficit
-Health Care
-National Security

I would say: 1. Job Creation 2. National Security 3. Reducing the deficit 4. Gun Control 5. Health Care 6. Immigration Reform. I'm interested to see what others have to say.
 
-Job Creation
-Health Care
-Reducing the national deficit
-National Security
-Immigration Reform
-Gun Control

National Security, Immigration Reform, and Gun Control are all a toss up for last place for me in that if we leave them as is we'll be just fine.
 
1) Health Care
2) Reducing the national deficit (by addressing health care)
3) Immigration Reform
4) National Security

Not to be included:
-Job Creation
-Gun Control
 
Are you talking about what the federal government should be taking care of? If so:
1. National Security
2. National debt
3. Immigration

The others would be no, no and no.
 
My most important issue isn't on the list so I'll just slide in systemic change.

Electoral reform...

Rewrite the constitution. Our government is completely broken.
 
Out of these issues facing our nation today, how would you rank them in order of importance?

-Job Creation
-Gun Control
-Immigration Reform
-Reducing the national deficit
-Health Care
-National Security

I would say: 1. Job Creation 2. National Security 3. Reducing the deficit 4. Gun Control 5. Health Care 6. Immigration Reform. I'm interested to see what others have to say.

1. Reducing the national deficit
2. Health Care reform
3. National Security
4. Job creation (As a byproduct of a working/certain economy)
5. immigration Reform
6. Gun control or lack there-of
 
eliminate campaign donations from anyone other than a registered voter; those publicly posted donations available only to candidates who could appear on the donor's ballot
do that and the other problems will soon be solved in the public's favor
until then, we will continue to have the best government money can buy
 
Out of these issues facing our nation today, how would you rank them in order of importance?

-Job Creation
-Gun Control
-Immigration Reform
-Reducing the national deficit
-Health Care
-National Security

I would say: 1. Job Creation 2. National Security 3. Reducing the deficit 4. Gun Control 5. Health Care 6. Immigration Reform. I'm interested to see what others have to say.
Agree with your 1-3 other 3 not the Feds buisness.
 
-Reducing the national deficit
-Job Creation (not through gvmt spending)
-Immigration Reform
-Health Care (re-writing obamacare)
-National Security
-Gun Control
 
Rewrite the constitution. Our government is completely broken.

Our government is not broken because there is anything wrong with our Constitution.

Our government is broken because it does not obey the Constitution. FDR broke the federal government out of its Constitutionally-limited place, and set the stage for it to grow into the bloated, uncontrollable, broken mess that it now is.

The federal government, especially, needs a serious, drastic pruning.
 
-Job Creation
-Gun Control
-Immigration Reform
-Reducing the national deficit
-Health Care
-National Security

Job creation, gun control and health care are not the government's business (at least, not fed's). 1. National security, cut spending then current immigration enforcement (depending on individual).
 
Out of these issues facing our nation today, how would you rank them in order of importance?

-Job Creation
-Gun Control
-Immigration Reform
-Reducing the national deficit
-Health Care
-National Security

I would say: 1. Job Creation 2. National Security 3. Reducing the deficit 4. Gun Control 5. Health Care 6. Immigration Reform. I'm interested to see what others have to say.

Health Care is number one...you take of raising cost of HealthCare (which has nothing to do with Tort Reform) but with the industry which they can charge whatever the hell they want (they charged me 150 dollars for bag if ice without insurance and 8 dollars with insurance, who the hell set prices like that)...This will take care of Jobs (highest overhead cost for any employer in US and compared to other countries where is covered by a universal system), which will lead to Lower deficit and in turn take care of immigration followed by national security and Gun Control will be a non-issue.

You deal with Health Care and all problems will fall into place and become much easier to deal with

Diving Mullah
 
Health Care is number one...you take of raising cost of HealthCare (which has nothing to do with Tort Reform) but with the industry which they can charge whatever the hell they want (they charged me 150 dollars for bag if ice without insurance and 8 dollars with insurance, who the hell set prices like that)...This will take care of Jobs (highest overhead cost for any employer in US and compared to other countries where is covered by a universal system), which will lead to Lower deficit and in turn take care of immigration followed by national security and Gun Control will be a non-issue.

You deal with Health Care and all problems will fall into place and become much easier to deal with

Diving Mullah

"Obamacare will lower the deficit, create jobs, and save lives"

It's easy to say these things...
 
Are you talking about what the federal government should be taking care of? If so:
1. National Security
2. National debt
3. Immigration

The others would be no, no and no.

I would reverse 1 and 2, but you are very correct in what are national issues and controlled largely by federal powers.
 
"Obamacare will lower the deficit, create jobs, and save lives"

It's easy to say these things...

Obamacare dealt with insure and uninsured, I'm talking about the actual price of things in the hospitals...Like an aspirin pill that costw $25 dollars uninsured and $15 insured but you pay 20% (what a great deal!!). I'm talking about diapers that cost $100. If you go to a shoe store and they try to sell you a $700 shoe, you have a choice to walk out, but with hospitals you seldom have that choice and no one is asking why they have two tier prices (with insurance and without insurance). And the price gauging is enormous. Now nursed don't make that money neither are the doctors, yet hospitals are one of the most profitable business in this country.

Hospitals should be able to get better bargain prices that consumer yet what they sell has a markup of 400X and for what. You regulate the prices to even their street values, but first you open up major hospitals "CHARGE MASTER BOOKS) (I'm arguing they can be lower) you will fix 70 to 80% of the issues that was listed.

Diving Mullah
 
My most important issue isn't on the list so I'll just slide in systemic change.

Electoral reform...

Rewrite the constitution. Our government is completely broken.

I've heard this argument before, that the government needs a complete facelift. Though I disagree, what sort of specific changes would you make to our system of government and constitution?
 
I've heard this argument before, that the government needs a complete facelift. Though I disagree, what sort of specific changes would you make to our system of government and constitution?

1) Abolish the house and replace it with a HoR parliament so there can no longer be districts to redistrict as well as better representing people in that third parties are no longer ostricized and will be a part of the government in proportion with the people that vote for them instead of the all or nothing garbage we have now that entrenches this two party system.

2) Federalize the electoral process for all federal offices so that senate, the HoR and the presidential elections will be uniform from state to state and meeting the requirements to run for those offices aren't random and ever moving goals.

3) Make any voter interference or manipulative altercations a federal crime with very stiff penalties.​

These are just off the top of my head at the moment. There are so many other things that can be done I'm sure. Just spitballing right now.
 
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1) Abolish the house and replace it with a HoR parliament so there can no longer be districts to redistrict as well as better representing people in that third parties are no longer ostricized and will be a part of the government in proportion with the people that vote for them instead of the all or nothing garbage we have now that entrenches this two party system.​


Wouldn't you say though that the two party system just comes naturally? Sure, I agree the influence of third parties is important and has been historically significant in our nation, but political elections/competition naturally end up pitting one strong candidate against another. The nation is so entrenched in the two-party system that any radical change just seems unreasonable. And is there really a large of a proportion of Americans who fall into a third party? I don't think so.​
 
Wouldn't you say though that the two party system just comes naturally?

If that were the case we wouldn't be the only one like this. Countries with parliamentary systems don't have this issue. We are just one party more than the old soviet union.

coolrunner said:
Sure, I agree the influence of third parties is important and has been historically significant in our nation, but political elections/competition naturally end up pitting one strong candidate against another. The nation is so entrenched in the two-party system that any radical change just seems unreasonable.

Kind of a weak argument don't you think? Don't make change because we're so entrenched that change just sounds too scary to do? All progress generally requires change of some kind. If we as American's always thought that way, removing ourselves from living under a king would never have happened.

coolrunner said:
And is there really a large of a proportion of Americans who fall into a third party? I don't think so.

- As of 2010, Gallup polling found that 31% of Americans identified as Democrats (tying a 22-year low), 29% as Republicans, and 38% as independents.

- Poll: 46 percent of Americans want a third party
 
Kind of a weak argument don't you think? Don't make change because we're so entrenched that change just sounds too scary to do? All progress generally requires change of some kind. If we as American's always thought that way, removing ourselves from living under a king would never have happened.

- As of 2010, Gallup polling found that 31% of Americans identified as Democrats (tying a 22-year low), 29% as Republicans, and 38% as independents.

You make some good points, placing more importance on a third party may be a good thing for our nation to strive for. Although I would be careful with equating the current two-party political system with British tyranny. You point out the stat of 38% of Americans identifying as independents, would you say that many of these independents are truly seeking to identify with a third party, or simply bounce between voting Republican and Democrat based on the candidates they approve of during a specific election?
 
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