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when the leaders of the organization helped these child molesters, they became just as responsible.
Great, it is not the whole church. Go get a list of names and be mad at them, but don't hate the entire group.
Let people be who they want to be. They want to pray to a god and not have contriception, it is their choice. Doesn't bother me.
It is so easy to bash Catholics in this country. Probably because they look like everyone else. Go bash another religion. See how far that goes.
Turns out people of every religion, race, sex, political orientation ect have molested children. Hating a group of people because of their religious affiliations makes you people ignorant. You are no better than KKK members or people who harass homosexuals. Take your hate speeches elsewhere. You are disgusting.
I did read it. And it is a bunch of nonsense and people justifying their hate for a group of people.
Millions of catholics in the world. Thousands have possibly molested children. You find it acceptable to run around acting like the entire church is doing it. Bet you think all black guys are criminals, all gay people have aids, jews are cheap, and every other stereo type you have ever heard too. Learn some tolerance and stop being so ignorant.
:lamo Nonsense. No one has said any of that.
Really? Where do you draw the line at when your hate and discrimination is ok evan?
Catholicism is what's left of the Dark Ages. It should be packed away, and put in a museum where it belongs.
If you don't know where the line is drawn, don't attempt to draw it yourself. Everyone here who is condemning this is complaining about the fact that this is not a problem of a few hundred people here and there being molested but thousands worldwide being molested and the hierarchy of the church doing absolutely nothing of value to stop it. As a matter of fact the church leaders have done the opposite by relocating and hiding criminals from the police. Your strawman is just that, a strawman.
What are they supposed to be doing?
How are christians stopping molestations? Or muslims? Jews? Athiests? Whites? Blacks? Gays? Lesbians? Rich? Poor? Any of them doing anything? No? Why single out catholics? Discrimination? Thats the only reason i can think of.
Calling the local police to inform them of child molestation. A simple phone call is all it takes.
Save the dodging for somebody who isn't smarter than you.
Show me any proof what so ever that the entirely of catholics knew what any priest was doing?
What is it that makes you think you are smarter than me?
Why does the "entirety" of catholics need to know what was going on when the catholic authorities knew? Your arguments are getting desperate.
1) I know how to construct an argument without resorting to desperate dodging.
2) I know how to construct an argument without resorting to logical fallacies.
3) I know how to argue without falling into straw man.
4) I know how to spell (but that one isn't so important if the other 3 aren't present, which isn't your case)
First off, largely those on this thread and many other threads on these boards have been attacking Catholics. Or all catholic priests. That is not reaching.
It is what you people are doing. There are no logical fallacies on my end or desperate dodging. You people are making child molestation a problem of the Catholics in this country rather than a problem with our country or the people who doing it.
I am capable of realizing the problem as a whole, while you and your type can't see that.
You seem content looking for someone to put all the problems of society on so that you don't have to face reality.
Sorry but your going to have to try a little harder than that.
Just because you say so or because you don't want to beleive something doesnt make it a logical fallacy or desperate dodging or anything else you want to call it.
Catholics, and the catholic church are good people. At least the majority of them are. No different than any other religion.
Didn't see it. Don't care.
Straw man 1.
Boring ad hom # - don't care to count cause it's all you do.
Relativist straw man 1.
I'm not trying. Your arguments are too weak for me to pretend they deserve an actual response.
And yet, that's exactly what your presence on this forum has actually been. I don't say so: logical arguments do.
Straw man argument 2.
Are you done with the weak arguments now?
For the record, there isn't any substantial proof that there are any more pedophiles in the Catholic Church than there are in the general population. Moreover, a Catholic priest pedophile acts exactly like any other pedophile. He manipulates his victims with phrases like, "it's what God wants", so things like that are less a reflection on the Church than on the nature of pedophiles.Article can be found here (Priest allegedly told rape victim: ‘This is what God)
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To sum up my views on this, I would like to say that I would have no problem if something were to "accidentally" happen to these imbeciles. Like, if they were "accidentally" beaten till they were black and blue or "accidentally" sent to Gitmo and subject to psychological torture. If either of those things happened, I'd be hard-pressed to find a problem with it.
Nothing more than a failed attempt at a response by someone who is not capable of actually formulating one.
Article can be found here (Priest allegedly told rape victim: ‘This is what God)
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To sum up my views on this, I would like to say that I would have no problem if something were to "accidentally" happen to these imbeciles. Like, if they were "accidentally" beaten till they were black and blue or "accidentally" sent to Gitmo and subject to psychological torture. If either of those things happened, I'd be hard-pressed to find a problem with it.
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And you call yourself a libertarian. LOL
Well kiddo, thanks for cutting off the rest of my point. It isn't the only religion that makes mistakes or have idiots in the ranks.
If I find a super liberal who rapes children should I post them up and say those damn liberals, this is just what they wanted. Do you think I am supporting the priest in any way? Do you think I support child molestation? No. Clearly not. I am saying everyone in this country finds it so easy to bash catholics, but they are to afraid to go after anyone else. It is weak.
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