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The issue with "oriental" is that it's Eurocentric-- "orient" is Latin for "east". Hell, they're west of America.
The issue with "oriental" is that it's Eurocentric-- "orient" is Latin for "east". Hell, they're west of America.
Yeah, that's pretty much the definition of PC. Modifying behaviour so as not to give unnecessary and unintended offence.
We have had a few discussions on the topic of politically correct topics lately, and it reminded me of a conversation on these boards from quite some time ago. I cannot remember what the discussion was about so the other person will remain nameless and hopefully unidentifiable. Who it is is not important. What I am going to ask is if I was being politically correct in this discussion.
Conversation: something about Asians, some one calls Asians "oriental", another person points out that properly, the correct term is Asian.
Me: I learned some time ago that Asian refers to people, Oriental to objects, so I always use Asian
Other person: You are just being Politically Correct.
Me: I don't think I am, it is effortless on my part to say Asian and I then don't have to worry about offending any one accidentally.
Other Person: Exactly, you are trying not to offend, so you are being PC.
Now, obviously this is somewhat paraphrased and condensed from a longer conversation. What I want to know though, is in the example I gave as I gave it, am I being Politically Correct to use the term Asian instead of Oriental?
We have had a few discussions on the topic of politically correct topics lately, and it reminded me of a conversation on these boards from quite some time ago. I cannot remember what the discussion was about so the other person will remain nameless and hopefully unidentifiable. Who it is is not important. What I am going to ask is if I was being politically correct in this discussion.
Conversation: something about Asians, some one calls Asians "oriental", another person points out that properly, the correct term is Asian.
Me: I learned some time ago that Asian refers to people, Oriental to objects, so I always use Asian
Other person: You are just being Politically Correct.
Me: I don't think I am, it is effortless on my part to say Asian and I then don't have to worry about offending any one accidentally.
Other Person: Exactly, you are trying not to offend, so you are being PC.
Now, obviously this is somewhat paraphrased and condensed from a longer conversation. What I want to know though, is in the example I gave as I gave it, am I being Politically Correct to use the term Asian instead of Oriental?
We have had a few discussions on the topic of politically correct topics lately, and it reminded me of a conversation on these boards from quite some time ago. I cannot remember what the discussion was about so the other person will remain nameless and hopefully unidentifiable. Who it is is not important. What I am going to ask is if I was being politically correct in this discussion.
Conversation: something about Asians, some one calls Asians "oriental", another person points out that properly, the correct term is Asian.
Me: I learned some time ago that Asian refers to people, Oriental to objects, so I always use Asian
Other person: You are just being Politically Correct.
Me: I don't think I am, it is effortless on my part to say Asian and I then don't have to worry about offending any one accidentally.
Other Person: Exactly, you are trying not to offend, so you are being PC.
Now, obviously this is somewhat paraphrased and condensed from a longer conversation. What I want to know though, is in the example I gave as I gave it, am I being Politically Correct to use the term Asian instead of Oriental?
personally, i don't see why anyone thinks being "PC" is wrong. if there's a chance that a person would think you were being rude, why not avoid that? for me, it's common courtesy, good manners. which some people seem to think can be overlooked.
personally, i don't see why anyone thinks being "PC" is wrong. if there's a chance that a person would think you were being rude, why not avoid that? for me, it's common courtesy, good manners. which some people seem to think can be overlooked.
Because it's idiotic to tippy-toe around people's silly sensibilities. People should have more important things to get excited about and if they don't, there's something wrong with them.
Besides that political correctness is nothing but thought engineering, that sometimes results in trampling on our liberties.
You're being very PC, because I bet you wouldn't normally make a reference to, "oriental", food vice, "Asian", food.
Because it's idiotic to tippy-toe around people's silly sensibilities. People should have more important things to get excited about and if they don't, there's something wrong with them.
Besides that political correctness is nothing but thought engineering, that sometimes results in trampling on our liberties.
I agree with apdst partially. Say what you mean and mean what you say. Of course, this also means that religious conservatives who are against gay marriage have to stop whining about their little notion of marriage being destroyed by gay folks because that's pure BS.
polite people respect others and their sensibilities.
Usually people more specifically say Thai food or Chinese food, so it's not a huge deal.
not really. i think as you age you will find more value in good manners. because really, what's the POINT of offending someone purposely?
I agree with apdst partially. Say what you mean and mean what you say. Of course, this also means that religious conservatives who are against gay marriage have to stop whining about their little notion of marriage being destroyed by gay folks because that's pure BS.
personally, i don't see why anyone thinks being "PC" is wrong. if there's a chance that a person would think you were being rude, why not avoid that? for me, it's common courtesy, good manners. which some people seem to think can be overlooked.
No, it's not being politically correct because Asians aren't objects. It's just "correct".We have had a few discussions on the topic of politically correct topics lately, and it reminded me of a conversation on these boards from quite some time ago. I cannot remember what the discussion was about so the other person will remain nameless and hopefully unidentifiable. Who it is is not important. What I am going to ask is if I was being politically correct in this discussion.
Conversation: something about Asians, some one calls Asians "oriental", another person points out that properly, the correct term is Asian.
Me: I learned some time ago that Asian refers to people, Oriental to objects, so I always use Asian
Other person: You are just being Politically Correct.
Me: I don't think I am, it is effortless on my part to say Asian and I then don't have to worry about offending any one accidentally.
Other Person: Exactly, you are trying not to offend, so you are being PC.
Now, obviously this is somewhat paraphrased and condensed from a longer conversation. What I want to know though, is in the example I gave as I gave it, am I being Politically Correct to use the term Asian instead of Oriental?
An individual can choose what words to use for themselves and there's nothing wrong with that. It's when they start expecting everyone else to use the same terminology because they're convinced that nobody ought to be offended, ever, for any reason, that it becomes PC and extremely wrong. Make your own decisions, allow everyone else to do the same. Enforced group-think is wrong.
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