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Luce:You forgot to mention what's-his-name.
Almost every thread he makes is about some rapper nobody's ever heard of.Luce:
??? Too cryptic for me I'm afraid.
Cheers and be well.
Evilroddy.
Police unions are a primary obstacle to police reform BY the police.I think if this country is to survive America's 250th anniversary of it's Independence in 2026, there needs to be police reform.
Black people aren't the only ones calling for it anymore. Young white people, the rising youth are. The people I have shown you that has caused me to be controversial around here have made it perfectly clear.
Police officers are not seen as peace officers anymore. They are seen as sworn enemies of the people. Black people don't have to tell you this.
There needs to be police reform or else I think America's finished.
First step in my opinion would be to abolish police unions. They're too corrupt.
Any thoughts?
If the police were capable of self-reform we would not be in the place that we are today. Meaningful reform must come from the outside because they cannot and refuse to clean up themselves.I think if this country is to survive America's 250th anniversary of it's Independence in 2026, there needs to be police reform.
Black people aren't the only ones calling for it anymore. Young white people, the rising youth are. The people I have shown you that has caused me to be controversial around here have made it perfectly clear.
Police officers are not seen as peace officers anymore. They are seen as sworn enemies of the people. Black people don't have to tell you this.
There needs to be police reform or else I think America's finished.
First step in my opinion would be to abolish police unions. They're too corrupt.
Any thoughts?
When will they retire and go away? It's not the 1950s and 1960s anymore.Police unions are a primary obstacle to police reform BY the police.
No doubt about it.
And that's primarily because they are controlled by old, retired, white cops who come from a different era.
I disagree with part of your premise, though. Police reform is definitely needed, but it will take both activism and union reform to achieve it. And I think that process will require federal legislation.
I think if this country is to survive America's 250th anniversary of it's Independence in 2026, there needs to be police reform.
Black people aren't the only ones calling for it anymore. Young white people, the rising youth are. The people I have shown you that has caused me to be controversial around here have made it perfectly clear.
Police officers are not seen as peace officers anymore. They are seen as sworn enemies of the people. Black people don't have to tell you this.
There needs to be police reform or else I think America's finished.
First step in my opinion would be to abolish police unions. They're too corrupt.
Any thoughts?
Lord Voldemort?You forgot to mention what's-his-name.
Biden is POTUS.When will they retire and go away? It's not the 1950s and 1960s anymore.
This country cannot take more riots. It's tiring.
I think it needs to be done at the local level. What can Biden really do?
Too broad a statement on the Unions. What is the unions job? To protect their members. Using the full extent of laws supporting LEO's is not corruption.I think if this country is to survive America's 250th anniversary of it's Independence in 2026, there needs to be police reform.
Black people aren't the only ones calling for it anymore. Young white people, the rising youth are. The people I have shown you that has caused me to be controversial around here have made it perfectly clear.
Police officers are not seen as peace officers anymore. They are seen as sworn enemies of the people. Black people don't have to tell you this.
There needs to be police reform or else I think America's finished.
First step in my opinion would be to abolish police unions. They're too corrupt.
Any thoughts?
Too broad a statement on the Unions. What is the unions job? To protect their members. Using the full extent of laws supporting LEO's is not corruption.
My first move would be to create a national database of LEO's to stop the crappy ones from just moving to a new department.
Only because the collective bargaining process resulted in those powers being given to the unions. It takes two sides to make a deal. Local governments have been bending over for police departments for far too long imo.That (bolded above) is a huge problem, resulting in anything short of a criminal charge being treated as a union personnel matter to be settled internally with possible arbitration.
Only because the collective bargaining process resulted in those powers being given to the unions. It takes two sides to make a deal. Local governments have been bending over for police departments for far too long imo.
Agree in principle.Too broad a statement on the Unions. What is the unions job? To protect their members. Using the full extent of laws supporting LEO's is not corruption.
My first move would be to create a national database of LEO's to stop the crappy ones from just moving to a new department.
Truth. But I'm not willing to throw out collective bargaining for a one time effort (no matter how worthwhile that effort is).Agree in principle.
But IMO, I think the only way to accomplish your/my goals is to decertify many/most police unions and create new ones that are not run (top to bottom) by the old bosses who are the reason why bad caps go unpunished (literally close to 100% of the time), and why racist policies and practices remain in place today.
Can't fix the issue of police misconduct without new police leadership, imo.
The reality is racism is ingrained in most police departments. And racist cops are not as rare as people might prefer to believe. Majority? No. But not a small minority, either.
I've lived it.
I get that.Truth. But I'm not willing to throw out collective bargaining for a one time effort (no matter how worthwhile that effort is).
I disagree, here.LEOs don't get paid enough now. Without the union, that would only get worse.
I must disagree. If this was true, it would happened by now.Reform can only come from within.
Again, I'm not against higher salaries, per se. But I think higher EDUCATIONAL standards are the only way to attract the "higher class of officers" you're talking about.Higher salaries would hopefully bring in a higher class of officers.
Full disclosure: In the many years that I have been a cop, I have never once met anyone who did it for the salary alone.LEOs don't get paid enough now. Without the union, that would only get worse.
Reform can only come from within. Higher salaries would hopefully bring in a higher class of officers.
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99% of the police officer's are good decent people trying to do an impossible job today.I think if this country is to survive America's 250th anniversary of it's Independence in 2026, there needs to be police reform.
Black people aren't the only ones calling for it anymore. Young white people, the rising youth are. The people I have shown you that has caused me to be controversial around here have made it perfectly clear.
Police officers are not seen as peace officers anymore. They are seen as sworn enemies of the people. Black people don't have to tell you this.
There needs to be police reform or else I think America's finished.
First step in my opinion would be to abolish police unions. They're too corrupt.
Any thoughts?
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