DeeJayH
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DeeJayH said:i have heard conflicting reports
is there really a type of person known as Palestinian?
so it is a fictional identitybandaidwoman said:There is no doubt the Palestinian "identity" is real, which at this point is the shared experience and horror of displacement by a mixed group of Arabs (and at one time included Jews before the establishment of Israel). Granted, it is not an " Arabic ethnic nation state "with hundreds of years of identity but it does not discount the fact that the idendity is real. This is very unlike the Kurds or the Jews. (I believe many of them were Jordanians when Jordan seded some of their land?) I may be wrong.
DeeJayH said:so it is a fictional identity
thnx
Ethnic groups:
Palestinian Arab and other 99.4%, Jewish 0.6%
DeeJayH said:i have heard conflicting reports
is there really a type of person known as Palestinian?
Tashah said:I am neither an historian nor anthropologist, but it is my understanding that the term 'Palestine' is the Anglicized version of the Roman possession of Palestinia... which included all of the Holy Land and good portions of the Levant. In reality, modern Palestinians are Arabs who hail from portions of the former country of Transjordan. Also included are Bedouin nomads who inhabit both the Sinai and Negev deserts. Historically, this area has been controled by numerous empires... and there has never existed a recognized soverign nation known as Palestine.
Australianlibertarian said:No more fictional, than Israeli citizens.
Before the creation of Israel, what region existed under British rule and before that Trukish rule?
Palestine. The Arabs, Jews and Christians that lived in that regions would have been known as Palestinians!
In the long term it probably makes sense that the refugees in from Palestine living in Jordan and Egypt apply for citizenship in those respective countries. But that does nto mean that these people are making up an identity.
The notion that all it is about is statehood for the Palestinians is FALSE, because they could have had THEIR OWN state decades ago....IF that is all it was about, & Israel WAS willing to accept that.
The systematic propaganda that has accompanied this shift in perception has involved such a complete role reversal that Israel is commonly compared to Nazis, while those who have actually inhereted the Nazi mantle (through the Muslim brotherhood) are absolved of their hatred because they have convinced the world that black is white and up is down.
Mr. D said:Before you pull out the cheapo anti Semite charge, I am pro Jew and anti Zionist!
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