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Point made. 20% of the federal budget spent on military...43% on SS, Medicaid, and Medicare.
Obama didn't invade Iraq or Afghanistan. And what we spend on our military pales in comparison to what we spend on entitlements and pork. The more you know!
By a few accounts I've read, this action was based on intelligent that has been shaping up since 2006. I think both Bush and Obama deserve an "atta boy" on this one. It would not have been wise for either of them to provide a weekly update of intelligence, or of the progress on tracking Osama. That's like telling the your mom you're throwing her a surprise party next Tuesday. We knew nothing of Obama's actions since 2009 when he took office in regarding to Osama. We knew nothing or little of Bush's actions, either.
To say "Bush failed, hahahahahahaha, Obama's a strategist GOD" is a bit....unrealistic. Osama has a very small circle. He uses that circle to do all of his communicating. He keeps few people "in the know" about himself. He disavows modern technology. It isn't like tracing my IP address and knowing I'm in Carrollton, TX right now. You have to rely on word of mouth from people we can't really trust. I get why it took so long to get him...I wish it hadn't..but I get it.
Rev, it is common for those affected by a crime to want closure. Family of the dead do not go to the killer's death sentence for kicks... they want to see justice done. It is what it is. I can bet you that those affected by 9/11 are rejoicing today.
Can we verify the claims of those who have been here longer any better? People make all sorts of claims about themselves here, and pulling this "Noob" business in order to invalidate one claim vs. any other has no merit.
So... what dos the ****ers death do to the situation in Afghanistan?
Do things become more stable over time now? Less?
Does someone else take the ****ers place and ramp up the violence?
Does Al Queda wither and die?
The photo with that story has been debunked as a hoax and has been on the interwebz for a couple of years now, iirc.Picture of bin Laden after being shot (WARNING - GRAPHIC IMAGE) - Bin Laden Has Been Dead for Two Weeks Why Are we learning about it Now? | Gold Coast Chronicle
The story says he was killed 2 weeks ago and Obama said it happened today. Seems as though there are conflicting stories out there. I guess we'll get to the truth of the matter sooner or later.
For the record, having finally made it through all 30 pages...I'd like to see some proof myself. With the news pouring in last night there were a lot of conflicting accounts of what happened and I'm still seeing them this morning. If it happened Saturday I'm wondering how we were able to get DNA results processed so quickly. Is it normal for it to take 24 hours or less? Also, unceremoniously dumping this guy at sea...not sure on that one. Is that SOP for a situation like this? Are they going to release pictures?? I haven't seen much of a reaction from AQ or the Taliban yet, either. Were there any survivors at the compound/mansion that we're holding? I didn't see anything mentioning captives.
(Please note: I've only read a couple of articles..if these questions have been answered I apologize, I haven't had the opportunity to pour over all the reports yet.)
What this does show are a few things from the United States:
1. Tenacity - once the American's get on your trail, they don't let off, even after 10 years
2. Consistancy - Whether it's a Democrat or Republican, or Independent - they'll still sign orders to kill terrorists when we find them.
3. Ability - We can enter a country of 180 Million covertly, strike a terrorist target successfully within 35 miles of their capital and get out with utter secrecy.
All the little Osama fans are having a bad day. It's natural they'll strike out and be mad.
I may be mistaken, but iirc, ObL wasn't the leader of the Taliban. I think that Taleban is a separate group from aQ that made an alliance with it.The Taliban's Commander in Chief is now dead.
No results found for "Soviet Ambassador protests appointment of Osama bin Laden to Taliban Commander in Chief, August, 2001".Uh-oh. The Mayor detects either falsehood or ignorance from this poster.
Bing "Soviet Ambassador protests appointment of Osama bin Laden to Taliban Commander in Chief, August, 2001"
I may be mistaken, but iirc, ObL wasn't the leader of the Taliban. I think that Taleban is a separate group from aQ that made an alliance with it.
It happened a few weeks ago. Obama only made the announcement just yesterday.
Dude, quite holding out, Give us your source already.They said this earlier that interrogations of KSM led to knowledge about a personal courier of bin Laden.
But during his speech last night he said, "yesterday, I authorized a task force...." ...he contradicted himself, too..because a few sentences earlier he said, "last week"...I thought maybe it was just a stumble (he had a few...i don't fault him on the teleprompter use, but you can tell he's using one...) and ignored it..but then I read articles this morning..some saying "last week" and some saying "Saturday". Also, the whole "burial at sea" thing was supposed to be about burying him w/i 24 hours of death, which is the Islamic protocol.
It's all a little fuzzy, I guess.
Actually, yes, we can. The longer someone stays and makes posts, the more likely they will slip up or say things that confirm their claims. Getting to know someone does allow us to verify it better. That's not to say that it's iron clad, but it is "better."Can we verify the claims of those who have been here longer any better?
Also, asking us to take something on faith because some anonymous internet poster says he has credentials has no merit.People make all sorts of claims about themselves here, and pulling this "Noob" business in order to invalidate one claim vs. any other has no merit.
Cite please.It happened a few weeks ago. Obama only made the announcement just yesterday.
The raid was authorized on April 29. Is there anyway DNA confirmation works that fast?
Tess - I think you may be on to something. The raid was authorized on April 29. Is there anyway DNA confirmation works that fast?
But during his speech last night he said, "yesterday, I authorized a task force...." ...he contradicted himself, too..because a few sentences earlier he said, "last week"...I thought maybe it was just a stumble (he had a few...i don't fault him on the teleprompter use, but you can tell he's using one...) and ignored it..but then I read articles this morning..some saying "last week" and some saying "Saturday". Also, the whole "burial at sea" thing was supposed to be about burying him w/i 24 hours of death, which is the Islamic protocol.
It's all a little fuzzy, I guess.
And finally, last week, I determined that we had enough intelligence to take action, and authorized an operation to get Osama bin Laden and bring him to justice.
Today, at my direction, the United States launched a targeted operation against that compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan. A small team of Americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage and capability. No Americans were harmed. They took care to avoid civilian casualties. After a firefight, they killed Osama bin Laden and took custody of his body.
Two quick things:
The date a raid is authorized does not necessarily mean that the raid took place on that date. The raid took place on the date it was ordered (5/1).
Second, with respect to the DNA evidence, CNN reported, "DNA matching is under way on samples from his body, the official said."
Details of America's plan to find and kill Osama bin Laden are still emerging. Here's what reports have told us so far:
May Day, 2011:
1pm EST – Top advisers began to gather at the White House in preparation for the strike.
2pm EST – Obama joins his advisers to review the final preparations.
Meanwhile, in an affluent suburb near the Pakistani city of Abbottabad, 62 miles outside Islamabad, helicopters flew towards a heavily guarded mansion. Clues gathered since 9/11 led a small team of U.S. Special Forces to this place, and not the remote tribal areas of Pakistan and Afghanistan where Osama bin Laden was said to be hiding. Given the go-ahead, the troops stormed the compound.
Forty minutes and a gunfight later, one of the world's most notorious terrorists lay dead, along with his son and two couriers. The BBC reports two women who were also inside at the time were injured and another died during the firefight. No American forces were injured in the raid, but CNN reports a U.S. helicopter crashed, and had to be destroyed with explosives set by U.S. troops for “security reasons.”
A senior administration official told CNN that any intelligence about bin Laden was not shared with foreign governments and the details of the raid were only known to a small group of individuals in the U.S. government. However, a high-level Pakistani intelligence official said to CNN their intelligence officers were also on standby in Abbottabad.
Read more: Timeline: How the U.S. Found and Killed Osama bin Laden - TIME NewsFeed
Osama Bin Laden Dead: Obama Speech Video And Transcript (VIDEO)
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Does sound a little odd I guess. It will all come out soon enough....a timeline I mean.
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