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One thing I have never understood....

Navy Pride said:
Kerry is a hero to the VC and the NVN..........He helped them win the war.....Do you feel like he does that the military that fought in Nam were all murderers, rapists and baby killers?

How you can defend what the left did to our returning troops from Nam is unbelieveable........You should join Cindy Sheehan........You fit right in.......
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What the LEFT did???
See, there ya go again lumping everyone together! So, there was NOT ONE CON protesting the war too!:roll: If you believe that I have a BRIDGE to sell ya!

Was that YOU I saw protesting in Crawford with Cindy?

See how foolish that sounds! Thats how foolish YOU sound!
 
[/QUOTE]I have NEVER heard of one Vet ever saying:
I am NOT glad to be on American soil again, I wish I were still fighting in Nam![/QUOTE]


Nor have you heard every Vet thanking the protester that "saved his life" or hoisting the likes of John Kerry up on their shoulders, who made them look bad.

Fool your intelligence and try to follow along.......I made no such statement that declared that vets weren't happy to be on American soil or that they wished they were back in Nam.
 
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SouthernDemocrat said:
It’s not character assassination, its tongue in cheek - you know dry humor or sarcasm.

Everyone generalizes. I have been referred to as a liberal on here dozens of times, yet anyone could read my posts on economics and see that I am not.

About half of Christians are not right wing. I am perfect example of one that isn’t.

The majority of Christians are pro-choice to one degree or another. I am a perfect example of one that is.

There are lots of liberals who don’t like Michael Moore.

There are conservatives that don’t like Limbaugh.

I will go out on a limb though and say that there are probably few if any socialists and liberals who think that Bush has done a great job.

You’re generalizing in your response because you are implying that most Christians are conservative and pro-life.


Yep, I've done it....liberal.
 
taxpayer said:
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What the LEFT did???
See, there ya go again lumping everyone together! So, there was NOT ONE CON protesting the war too!:roll: If you believe that I have a BRIDGE to sell ya!

Was that YOU I saw protesting in Crawford with Cindy?

See how foolish that sounds! Thats how foolish YOU sound!


I want to hear more on this bridge. What are you asking?
 
I have NEVER heard of one Vet ever saying:
I am NOT glad to be on American soil again, I wish I were still fighting in Nam![/QUOTE]


Nor have you heard every Vet thanking the protester that "saved his life" or hoisting the likes of John Kerry up on their shoulders, who made them look bad.

Fool your intelligence and try to follow along.......I made no such statement that declared that vets weren't happy to be on American soil or that they wished they were back in Nam.[/QUOTE]
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Well you did say that I have my facts wrong about what the protesters did for me and other Vets!
 
GySgt said:
I want to hear more on this bridge. What are you asking?
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So please answer me this:

Are you saying that there was NOT ONE CON protesting Nam?

Simple yes OR no!
 
taxpayer said:
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What the LEFT did???
See, there ya go again lumping everyone together! So, there was NOT ONE CON protesting the war too!:roll: If you believe that I have a BRIDGE to sell ya!

Was that YOU I saw protesting in Crawford with Cindy?

See how foolish that sounds! Thats how foolish YOU sound!

Conservatives back this country and our military.....

I sent $50. to Melanie Morgan in support of the people who said "Cindy you don't speak for me." I would have love to be there waving "Old Glory."


I have one pertinent question for you..........Have you ever seen and American Flag being burned at a support the president and the troops rally?

Nuff said............
 
taxpayer said:
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So please answer me this:

Are you saying that there was NOT ONE CON protesting Nam?

Simple yes OR no!

Have you ever looked at the protestors from the Viet Nam era? Nuff said........
 
Navy Pride said:
Conservatives back this country and our military.....

I sent $50. to Melanie Morgan in support of the people who said "Cindy you don't speak for me." I would have love to be there waving "Old Glory."


I have one pertinent question for you..........Have you ever seen and American Flag being burned at a support the president and the troops rally?

Nuff said............

Wasn't that whole "You don’t speak for me" nothing but a Republican PR company? If I am not mistaken that is exactly what it turned out to be.

Moreover, conservatives back this country when a conservative is in office, and I would argue that some conservatives are a lot more for the defense contractor, than for the military. Liberals and progressives love this country every bit as much as conservatives do.

I don’t just look at tanks and Republican Presidents and say or think “God Bless America”.

I go on backpacking or canoe trips and look and experience this beautiful country that liberals and progressives have fought so hard for laws to protect, and think God Bless America.

I go to work every day and think to myself how lucky I am to have been born in a nation where I can do a job I like doing and make a decent living at it, and think God Bless America.

I go fishing and I think God Bless America.

I go hunting and I think God Bless America.

I go out and get some great BBQ here in the BBQ capital of the world (ok us and Memphis), and I think God Bless America.

I buy a cold beer on a Sunday and read a playboy and think God Bless America.

I love just about everything about this country. I think I live in the greatest place on earth. I am very thankful for the freedoms I have and the land I am so fortunate to live in and I try to never forget that so many before me had to fight and die for people like me to get to live the life we get to live. I thought this war was a bad idea before we went into Iraq and I still think it is a bad idea today and because I do love my country, I have no problem with saying what I think about it.
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
Wasn't that whole "You don’t speak for me" nothing but a Republican PR company? If I am not mistaken that is exactly what it turned out to be.

Moreover, conservatives back this country when a conservative is in office, and I would argue that some conservatives are a lot more for the defense contractor, than for the military. Liberals and progressives love this country every bit as much as conservatives do.

I don’t just look at tanks and Republican Presidents and say or think “God Bless America”.

I go on backpacking or canoe trips and look and experience this beautiful country that liberals and progressives have fought so hard for laws to protect, and think God Bless America.

I go to work every day and think to myself how lucky I am to have been born in a nation where I can do a job I like doing and make a decent living at it, and think God Bless America.

I go fishing and I think God Bless America.

I go hunting and I think God Bless America.

I go out and get some great BBQ here in the BBQ capital of the world (ok us and Memphis), and I think God Bless America.

I buy a cold beer on a Sunday and read a playboy and think God Bless America.

I love just about everything about this country. I think I live in the greatest place on earth. I am very thankful for the freedoms I have and the land I am so fortunate to live in and I try to never forget that so many before me had to fight and die for people like me to get to live the life we get to live. I thought this war was a bad idea before we went into Iraq and I still think it is a bad idea today and because I do love my country, I have no problem with saying what I think about it.

Yeah those Republicans are just as bad as the Democrats......Problem with your scenario is I am not a Republican.......

Your so happy and such a patriot, I bet you even sent your tax rebate back....:roll:
 
Navy Pride said:
One thing I have never understood about the hate for our military during the Vietnam Conflict.........I know the left wing liberal media and people like Kerry piutting us down by calling us murderers, rapists and baby killers did not help the situation and all the publicity "Hanoi" Jane Fonda got when she was on that gun mount in North Vietnam did not help...............

We in the military were just trying to do our job to the best of our ability and to be spit on and insulted upon our return to the U.S. was totally out of line.........

Now you start seeing the same thing starting to happen in Iraq with the Cindy Sheehan, Senators Durbin and Kennedy.........

It is really sad that the left in this country could stoop so low........

I respect anyone who is/was in our military. It's an important job, and I'm glad that we have people willing to put their lives on the line for our freedoms.

However, this was is not about our freedoms or about our security. IT is sheerly out of the averice of one man who wanted to settle a score for his dad and re-pay the people who helped him get in office.

This is not liberal hippie crap, I'm not a Liberal-- this is factual evidence. No-bid contracts were handed out to the oil company that gave Bush money.

It started out as WoMD, but the army ruled out that possibility, so Bush went onto anotehr motive for the war, one that can sit with our consiences much easier: we came to liberate people. America's love is liberty, it's what we do.

Now, wouldn't that sit well with all the other excuses we're been given: Horboring Terrorists, WOMD, Liberating Iraq, but you know what? It's like double-think, having to forget what's happened in the past to exept what's in the present. Well, I'm against all forms of Statism, and I think it's the only true "anti-Family Morals" that Republicans speak of, so you must forgive me if I humbly disagree with you on this.


PS: I, in no way, hold any contempt for the soldiers of this war (Other than the ones who are not doing what they are mandated to do).
 
Navy Pride said:
Yeah those Republicans are just as bad as the Democrats......Problem with your scenario is I am not a Republican.......

Your so happy and such a patriot, I bet you even sent your tax rebate back....:roll:

If you will notice, I did not refer to Republicans, I refered to some conservatives.

That is the lamest right wing line ever. No, I did not send it back, but I do realize that someone has to pay for this war and all this crazy spending. Call me crazy, but I figure that living in this great nation actually requires some fees and if you try to weazel your way out of investing your fair share in this country and paying for what you spend as a country, then you are just a freeloader.
 
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GoldPheonix said:
I respect anyone who is/was in our military. It's an important job, and I'm glad that we have people willing to put their lives on the line for our freedoms.

However, this was is not about our freedoms or about our security. IT is sheerly out of the averice of one man who wanted to settle a score for his dad and re-pay the people who helped him get in office.

This is not liberal hippie crap, I'm not a Liberal-- this is factual evidence. No-bid contracts were handed out to the oil company that gave Bush money.

It started out as WoMD, but the army ruled out that possibility, so Bush went onto anotehr motive for the war, one that can sit with our consiences much easier: we came to liberate people. America's love is liberty, it's what we do.

Now, wouldn't that sit well with all the other excuses we're been given: Horboring Terrorists, WOMD, Liberating Iraq, but you know what? It's like double-think, having to forget what's happened in the past to exept what's in the present. Well, I'm against all forms of Statism, and I think it's the only true "anti-Family Morals" that Republicans speak of, so you must forgive me if I humbly disagree with you on this.


PS: I, in no way, hold any contempt for the soldiers of this war (Other than the ones who are not doing what they are mandated to do).


However, this was is not about our freedoms or about our security. IT is sheerly out of the averice of one man who wanted to settle a score for his dad and re-pay the people who helped him get in office

With all due respect that is a ridiculous statement...

This is not liberal hippie crap, I'm not a Liberal-- this is factual evidence. No-bid contracts were handed out to the oil company that gave Bush money.

Did you know that the same type of contracts were awarded in Bosnia and Kosovo during the Clinton Administration? Where was your outrage then?

we came to liberate people. America's love is liberty, it's what we do.

and what is wrong with that?:confused:

Now, wouldn't that sit well with all the other excuses we're been given: Horboring Terrorists, WOMD, Liberating Iraq, but you know what? It's like double-think, having to forget what's happened in the past to exept what's in the present. Well, I'm against all forms of Statism, and I think it's the only true "anti-Family Morals" that Republicans speak of, so you must forgive me if I humbly disagree with you on this.

You lost me on that one but just to let you know I am no Republican
 
Navy Pride said:
Have you ever looked at the protestors from the Viet Nam era? Nuff said........

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Looked at them?
HEH! I have met some. Dems, Libs, Repubs, Cons, Independents and a few more that I have met through out the years!

BTW: Just WHAT are you supposed to learn about someone by "LOOKING" at them?:roll:

Glad your not a judge!!!:doh

Nuff said!

--->>> Looks like the CAT caught Sarges tongue!!! Since you posted to me from a post I posted to him then maybe YOU can answer the question:

ARE YOU SAYING THAT THERE WAS NOT ONE CON PROTESTING NAM???

>>>>>YES OR NO???<<<<<
 
Navy Pride said:
With all due respect that is a ridiculous statement...
How so? Don't pretend like he hasn't given kickbacks to all his buddies that helped him into office. I beleive Haleberta (sp?) was given low bid contracts, some food company for products they never even shipped... Don't act like nothing was going on.

Navy Pride said:
Did you know that the same type of contracts were awarded in Bosnia and Kosovo during the Clinton Administration? Where was your outrage then?
I'm outraged at many things the Clinton admistration did, however I could not of been properly outraged as I was only 5-13. I was not interested in political bed time stories my friend.

Navy Pride said:
and what is wrong with that?:confused:
The problem is, we are not out there to take care of other countries when we can't even take care of our own.

Navy Pride said:
You lost me on that one but just to let you know I am no Republican
It was meant for people who have read 1984, something I hoped many people have read, however... I guess not.
 
Navy Pride said:
With all due respect that is a ridiculous statement...

Did you know that the same type of contracts were awarded in Bosnia and Kosovo during the Clinton Administration? Where was your outrage then?

Halliburton has been awarded every job like this in every previous war since WW II
BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONLY COMPANY THAT CAN DO IT
sad fact that most lib/dem cant seem to wrap their mind around this
 
taxpayer said:
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Looked at them?
HEH! I have met some. Dems, Libs, Repubs, Cons, Independents and a few more that I have met through out the years!

BTW: Just WHAT are you supposed to learn about someone by "LOOKING" at them?:roll:

Glad your not a judge!!!:doh

Nuff said!

--->>> Looks like the CAT caught Sarges tongue!!! Since you posted to me from a post I posted to him then maybe YOU can answer the question:

ARE YOU SAYING THAT THERE WAS NOT ONE CON PROTESTING NAM???

>>>>>YES OR NO???<<<<<

Let's sum something up here....

You stated....."Our Vets have a right to state their feelings. But remember, listen to what many others Vets have to say too! They like Kerry."

I replied...."My Father doesn't and neither does the Veteran community surrounding Camp Lejeune. You've got your facts wrong also regarding what the protester did for you. They, along with the political dissent in Washington, actually prolonged the war and cost more lives."

You replied out of left field with...."I have NEVER heard of one Vet ever saying:
I am NOT glad to be on American soil again, I wish I were still fighting in Nam!"


My reply then was....."Nor have you heard every Vet thanking the protester that "saved his life" or hoisting the likes of John Kerry up on their shoulders, who made them look bad. Fool your intelligence and try to follow along.......I made no such statement that declared that vets weren't happy to be on American soil or that they wished they were back in Nam."


After then you still persist in trying to make an argument out of nothing. So, as others may see, It's not that the "cat caught my tongue." It's that I haven't the patience to talk with people that can't stay focused. I also haven't the patience to talk with someone that was in uniform during these times but have a lack of understanding of what actually happened with politics and protesting of it and the effects it had on the Vietnam War.

And by the way, regarding your signature...."your either with America and our troops, or with Bush and his followers?" Guess what. This isn't Vietnam. If you wish to talk for the National Guard or the few dissentors that are being made to do their job, then go fo it. Iraq is an 'Active Duty' war. Not a civilian draftee war. The majority of all troops are with Bush and, therefore, are the followers. Don't do us any favors. Stop pretending to talk for us.
 
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DeeJayH said:
Halliburton has been awarded every job like this in every previous war since WW II
BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONLY COMPANY THAT CAN DO IT
sad fact that most lib/dem cant seem to wrap their mind around this

BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!
 
taxpayer said:
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Looked at them?
HEH! I have met some. Dems, Libs, Repubs, Cons, Independents and a few more that I have met through out the years!

BTW: Just WHAT are you supposed to learn about someone by "LOOKING" at them?:roll:

Glad your not a judge!!!:doh

Nuff said!

--->>> Looks like the CAT caught Sarges tongue!!! Since you posted to me from a post I posted to him then maybe YOU can answer the question:

ARE YOU SAYING THAT THERE WAS NOT ONE CON PROTESTING NAM???

>>>>>YES OR NO???<<<<<

One more time now concentrate like a laser beam........Have you ever seen the people at the support the president and the troops burning the American Flag?............At your rallys they treat it like dirt..........
 
Navy Pride said:
One more time now concentrate like a laser beam........Have you ever seen the people at the support the president and the troops burning the American Flag?............At your rallys they treat it like dirt..........

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Lets try a little laser on you! I'll type in BIG LETTERS so you may understand!!!:roll: :doh

ITS NOT MY RALLIES!!! YOU LUMP EVERY DEM AND LIB INTO ONE PIG POT!!!

QUESTION:
How many Repubs, CONS were at the rallies that burnt American FLAGS???

MY ANSWER: I KNOW OF SOME THAT WERE THERE! THEY TOLD ME THAT THEY WERE THERE ALSO TO PROTEST THE WAR AND BURNT "AMERICAN FLAGS!!!

YOUR ANSWER?
 
Navy Pride said:
BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!


Sorry, close only counts in horse shoes!
You DID NOT BINGO!!!

It could have been done by a few smaller companys. Each assigned a different task!
 
Anyone that burns an American flag is a traitor. You can masque it under your "freedom of speech" or under your "civil liberties", but in the end you are simply desecrating everything that flag represents.

Foreigners burn our flag to make a political statement on their hatred for America. Any American would burn it for the same thing.
 
taxpayer said:
Sorry, close only counts in horse shoes!
You DID NOT BINGO!!!

It could have been done by a few smaller companys. Each assigned a different task!

As usual when it comes to those contracts you have no clue.....
 
taxpayer said:
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Lets try a little laser on you! I'll type in BIG LETTERS so you may understand!!!:roll: :doh

ITS NOT MY RALLIES!!! YOU LUMP EVERY DEM AND LIB INTO ONE PIG POT!!!

QUESTION:
How many Repubs, CONS were at the rallies that burnt American FLAGS???

MY ANSWER: I KNOW OF SOME THAT WERE THERE! THEY TOLD ME THAT THEY WERE THERE ALSO TO PROTEST THE WAR AND BURNT "AMERICAN FLAGS!!!

YOUR ANSWER?

I have not said anything about democrats or republicans....You pretend to be a moderate but you are a far left liberal..........That is who attends those rallys and who puts our troops down...They are the ones who spit on Vietnam Vets when the came back...........There may be a missguided person who thinks he is a Conservative at those rallys but like you he is nothing but a Liberal..Stand up and by counted man.........
 
Navy Pride said:
I have not said anything about democrats or republicans....You pretend to be a moderate but you are a far left liberal..........That is who attends those rallys and who puts our troops down...They are the ones who spit on Vietnam Vets when the came back...........There may be a missguided person who thinks he is a Conservative at those rallys but like you he is nothing but a Liberal..Stand up and by counted man.........
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I don't pretend to be ANYTHING!!!
And I have NOT attended ANY ralles for ANYTHING OR ANYONE!!!

Hummmmm! I know of people that talk like you do, they were at the flag burning rallies and now hide behind it to hide there guilt!!!

I would like to see a photo of YOU and look through some old tapes in the library to see if YOU WERE AT the flag burning rallies!

STAND UP AND BE COUNTED MAN!!!:2wave:
 
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