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In a related story....

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Both articles strongly suggest that Hezbollah is rearming in southern Lebanon with the knowledge and complicity of southern Lebanese civilians.
 
Shayah, Hizbollah isn't a regular army that gets called and deployed here or there in the case of war. Hizbollah members ARE from South Lebanon and live among their family members. I was there for 2 weeks just a month ago travelling all over south Lebanon. Beside a few Lebanese army checkpoints and U.N. patrols you do not see a single other military presence.

Since 2006, Hizbollah has not fired a single rocket into Israel, has not made any attemts of incursions. Every speech of Hassan Nasrallah's has been about defense and not offense.

I walked up and down the border at "Bawabet Fatmeh" with Lebanese civilians on one side and Israeli military on the other. Each and every time it was the Israeli military who were fooling around and turning their weapons toward us, the civilians did not throw one single rock as they did for years after 2000. I only saw one guy stick a "F you" finger at the soldiers and he turned out to be from Tripoli.

The general mood in South Lebanon was "leave us alone, we leave you alone"

Just my impression.....
 

All of those "defensive" statements from Hizballah are meant towards the Lebanese population, they seek further support and hence are trying to maintain a defensive position, but just like the 2006 war has started with Hezbollah aggression so will any future war.

And yes Hizballah is covering big parts of Southern Lebanon, and the intel gathered by the IDF through the years point at an excessive rearming by Hizballah and the continued use of the Lebanese civilians of Southern Lebanon as political tools, storing arms next to hospitals and schools and positioning themselves amongst the civilian population.
 
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My sister visited the border area last week. Her impressions are probably a bit different than yours.
 
Oh well .... we even hear and see differently.
 
Oh well .... we even hear and see differently.
Possibly, since she will probably appraise the situation from a military point of view.
 
Possibly, since she will probably appraise the situation from a military point of view.

yeah, that probably explains why
 
only the israeli soldiers are initiating provocation across the border and you are expressing concern that the lebanese are becoming better equipped to defend themselves
i believe the ominous inference you should take from this is that it may become a template for the other nations in the region to follow
if israel insists on flexing its military might it should not be surprised that its opponents are preparing to defend themselves from the IDF 'pre-emptive' attacks launched against them
 

That is of course false, the Israeli soldiers are not the ones committing the provocations and the 2nd Lebanon war was started with a Hezbollah surprise attack on the IDF.
You are as usual unsuccessfully trying to manipulate reality and history for the sake of propaganda, due to the fact that the truth acts against you.
Your support for the arming of the terrorist organization of Hezbollah is merely done due to your agreement with their methods, nothing more and nothing less.

Besides that, stating that Hebzollah arms itself for the sake of defending itself from Israeli "preemptive" strikes is an oxymoron, due to the fact that a preemptive attack comes to prevent a known incoming attack from the other side.
 
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Lol. Nice amateur attempt at revisionism. The real down low...

2006 Lebanon War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

If Israel wanted Nasrallah dead he would already be dead, Israel actually agrees with you that assassinating Nasrallah will be a bad move and its officials have stated so before.
The claim that Israel has plotted to assassinate Nasrallah is the common attempt to mislead the public through accusations, it is very common amongst radical Islamic leaders such as Nasrallah, Heniyah, Bin-Laden and even Ahmedinejad. (Like when Iran has accused Israel and the US for killing the Iranian professor that died in a blast a few months ago)

They're basically trying to fuel the flames so they will have the public's support once they take another move of aggression against Israel.
 
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Here, even found a part in the Haaretz article that says what I've tried to explain:
Experts have suggested, however, that the report may be part of Hezbollah's propaganda war and not based on actual facts.
 


If Israel had never assassinated political leaders and made the situation even worse than it already was, I would have believed you.
 
If Israel had never assassinated political leaders and made the situation even worse than it already was, I would have believed you.

Israel did assassinate arch-terrorists in the past, but that cannot possibly imply that it will assassinate every arch-terrorist out there.
I do not expect you to believe me, I am merely stating that when you take the terrorists' words for granted you are playing into their attempt to fuel the flames and promote the support for their next war.
Do notice that you are fully relying here with your words on unidentified sources, and that explains your defensive position towards the terrorist organization of Hezbollah.
 
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The problem is that while I do not totally trust either side, you blindly trust absolutely anything that your army and your givernment feeds you.
 
Lol. Nice amateur attempt at revisionism. The real down low...


2006 Lebanon War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
let us seek out the truth of the matter:
[emphasis added by bubba]
Israel planned for Lebanon war months in advance, PM says | World news | The Guardian
 
let us seek out the truth of the matter
Israel always has contingency plans to engage Hezbollah and Hamas. Any dummy should realize that.

Lol. Even the Hezbollah leadership admitted after the war that it had badly misjudged the Israeli response to its criminality.

On 27 August 2006, Nasrallah stated, "Had we known that the capture of the soldiers would have led to [the war], we would definitely not have done it."
2006 Lebanon War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 


And Israel had misjudged the power of Hizbollah.

By the way Apocalypse, assassinating Nasrallah is not as easy a task as you believe it to be. It's not enough to localise and strike. In order for it to be politically effective, it has to be done in such a way that Israel will be suspected of having carried it out but never proved. Rings a bell with a few successful assassinations ?
 
Imad Mughaniya for one. Lebanon blamed Israel, but most analysts believe Tehran was the culprit.
 
Imad Mughaniya for one. Lebanon blamed Israel, but most analysts believe Tehran was the culprit.

exactly, and nobody really knows and we will probably never find out.
 
The problem is that while I do not totally trust either side, you blindly trust absolutely anything that your army and your givernment feeds you.

I trust that which is based, and yes you do seem to blindly trust the terrorists since you've just referred to their accusation against Israel of "plotting to assassinate Nasrallah" as if there is any truth to it.
 
Or it could just be done through a war that will be started by Hizballah, like the US assassinates those al-Qaeda and Taliban leaders.
 
The problem is that while I do not totally trust either side, .


Yet you are quite relentless about promoting the interests of one of them.
 
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