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I think it is reasonable for the public to expect police officers to be capable of arresting suspects, even those resisting arrest, without executing them.my take from your comment is that those who have outstanding warrants but do not want to be arrested should have only to drive away, ignoring the police efforts to execute the arrest warrant
then why even issue arrest warrants if they are not to be enforced?
A citizen is entitled to due process, regardless of whatever stupid actions they may take. Disobeying a police officer does not entitle them to shoot him dead.the dead perp refused to obey the law enforcement officers' reasonable commands
had he been a good citizen and obeyed the authorities, he would be alive today
he and his stupid actions are responsible for his death
play stupid games, receive stupid prizes
We could call it a lack of competence if it makes you feel better.But proving that what essentially boils down to a failure of muscle memory is the result of negligence is a bit of a stretch, in my opinion.
Is anyone making that claim? The widely-accepted theory at the moment is that she mistook her gun for her ECD and shot him negligently.That and her 26 year career debunk any claims that officer Potter didn't understand that proportionality is required whenever an officer uses force during an arrest.
which goes to my pointI think it is reasonable for the public to expect police officers to be capable of arresting suspects, even those resisting arrest, without executing them.
again, your post indicates that a perp who does not want to be arrested under a court issued warrant should be able to disobey the directions of the law enforcement officers and continue to evade enforcement of the arrest warrantA citizen is entitled to due process, regardless of whatever stupid actions they may take. Disobeying a police officer does not entitle them to shoot him dead.
You know, there is a middle ground. It's not a binary choice between deadly force and waving goodbye for someone who resists arrest.which goes to my point
if that person choses to evade the arrest warrant by disobeying the officers, your position is the police should wave bye to the perp as he drives away
share with us what the cops should do insteadYou know, there is a middle ground. It's not a binary choice between deadly force and waving goodbye for someone who resists arrest.
Only if you assume that there is no other possible way of enforcing an arrest warrant, aside from executing the suspect. Which is false.again, your post indicates that a perp who does not want to be arrested under a court issued warrant should be able to disobey the directions of the law enforcement officers and continue to evade enforcement of the arrest warrant
Use reasonable force to apprehend the subject based on the level of resistance they are presenting.share with us what the cops should do instead
the perp fought off the cops who were trying to execute the warrant without executing himOnly if you assume that there is no other possible way of enforcing an arrest warrant, aside from executing the suspect. Which is false.
seems that was exactly what they were doingUse reasonable force to apprehend the subject based on the level of resistance they are presenting.
Like every other use of force situation.
Reasonable force is required at all levels of resistance, not just when the subject is compliant.seems that was exactly what they were doing
until the perp decided he would try to bolt by refusing to comply with the police instructions
he brought this ultimate result upon himself
The perp "fought off" the cops solely due to their own incompetence, and then was shot, due to again, such an extreme amount of police incompetence that it amounts to criminal negligence.the perp fought off the cops who were trying to execute the warrant without executing him
unfortunately, the perp's decisions caused that shooting to result
the perp is responsible for his own death
which is where we come to the point of expecting the police to wave goodbye to himReasonable force is required at all levels of resistance, not just when the subject is compliant.
you want us to believe that the cops incompetence is what made the perp non-compliantThe perp "fought off" the cops solely due to their own incompetence, and then was shot, due to again, such an extreme amount of police incompetence that it amounts to criminal negligence.
I think that's exactly what made him non compliant actually. Their inability to get the cuffs on gave him the chance he needed to escape. If they hadn't given him that opportunity, he wouldn't have gotten away, he'd still be alive, and she wouldn't be charged with manslaughter.you want us to believe that the cops incompetence is what made the perp non-compliant
get off of your unicorn and join the rest of us on this planet
thanks for the admission that you believe it was the cops' fault that the perp was non-compliantI think that's exactly what made him non compliant actually. Their inability to get the cuffs on gave him the chance he needed to escape. If they hadn't given him that opportunity, he wouldn't have gotten away, he'd still be alive, and she wouldn't be charged with manslaughter.
Once again, waving goodbye and engaging in a use of deadly force are not the only options available. This is why the police have other force options on their tool belts.which is where we come to the point of expecting the police to wave goodbye to him
when he refuses to be compliant
don't shoot the perp who refuses to obey police commands, just wave goodbye to him and hope he will be apprehended by some other cops
wonder why there is so much non-compliance going on before all the shootings
Yeah, this is a bad take. They didn't give him an opportunity. He took a chance and was able to get free. The ability to successfully resist arrest at the beginning of an encounter doesn't make cops culpable for injury later on just because the subject was able to initially get away.I think that's exactly what made him non compliant actually. Their inability to get the cuffs on gave him the chance he needed to escape. If they hadn't given him that opportunity, he wouldn't have gotten away, he'd still be alive, and she wouldn't be charged with manslaughter.
A citizen is entitled to due process, regardless of whatever stupid actions they may take. Disobeying a police officer does not entitle them to shoot him dead.
the lack of analysis is your ownOh boy...
All these "he was accused of a crime in the past" people. All these "he shoulda obeyed" people.
Fess up. You and the rest of them just don't care. The sum total of your posts say it. This tends to happen to poor black people. Poverty tends to correlate with crime, so you'll generally have some accusation made against him in the past to point to. Between that and "he should have obeyed", it's obvious that there is no actual analysis going on behind your keyboards.
It happens to poor black people. You are not a poor black person. Therefore, you do not care. That's all.
It's disgusting. It's selfish. It's a tribal instinct humanity needs to jettison.
yep, and a veteran cop intended to take one of those alternativesOnce again, waving goodbye and engaging in a use of deadly force are not the only options available. This is why the police have other force options on their tool belts.
Oh boy...
All these "he was accused of a crime in the past" people. All these "he shoulda obeyed" people.
Fess up. You and the rest of them just don't care. The sum total of your posts say it. This tends to happen to poor black people. Poverty tends to correlate with crime, so you'll generally have some accusation made against him in the past to point to. Between that and "he should have obeyed", it's obvious that there is no actual analysis going on behind your keyboards.
It happens to poor black people. You are not a poor black person. Therefore, you do not care. That's all.
It's disgusting. It's selfish. It's a tribal instinct humanity needs to jettison.
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