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Officer charged with 2nd-degree manslaughter in Daunte Wright killing

my take from your comment is that those who have outstanding warrants but do not want to be arrested should have only to drive away, ignoring the police efforts to execute the arrest warrant
then why even issue arrest warrants if they are not to be enforced?
I think it is reasonable for the public to expect police officers to be capable of arresting suspects, even those resisting arrest, without executing them.
 
the dead perp refused to obey the law enforcement officers' reasonable commands
had he been a good citizen and obeyed the authorities, he would be alive today
he and his stupid actions are responsible for his death
play stupid games, receive stupid prizes
A citizen is entitled to due process, regardless of whatever stupid actions they may take. Disobeying a police officer does not entitle them to shoot him dead.
 
But proving that what essentially boils down to a failure of muscle memory is the result of negligence is a bit of a stretch, in my opinion.
We could call it a lack of competence if it makes you feel better.
 
That and her 26 year career debunk any claims that officer Potter didn't understand that proportionality is required whenever an officer uses force during an arrest.
Is anyone making that claim? The widely-accepted theory at the moment is that she mistook her gun for her ECD and shot him negligently.
 
I think it is reasonable for the public to expect police officers to be capable of arresting suspects, even those resisting arrest, without executing them.
which goes to my point
if that person choses to evade the arrest warrant by disobeying the officers, your position is the police should wave bye to the perp as he drives away
 
A citizen is entitled to due process, regardless of whatever stupid actions they may take. Disobeying a police officer does not entitle them to shoot him dead.
again, your post indicates that a perp who does not want to be arrested under a court issued warrant should be able to disobey the directions of the law enforcement officers and continue to evade enforcement of the arrest warrant
 
which goes to my point
if that person choses to evade the arrest warrant by disobeying the officers, your position is the police should wave bye to the perp as he drives away
You know, there is a middle ground. It's not a binary choice between deadly force and waving goodbye for someone who resists arrest.
 
You know, there is a middle ground. It's not a binary choice between deadly force and waving goodbye for someone who resists arrest.
share with us what the cops should do instead
 
again, your post indicates that a perp who does not want to be arrested under a court issued warrant should be able to disobey the directions of the law enforcement officers and continue to evade enforcement of the arrest warrant
Only if you assume that there is no other possible way of enforcing an arrest warrant, aside from executing the suspect. Which is false.
 
share with us what the cops should do instead
Use reasonable force to apprehend the subject based on the level of resistance they are presenting.

Like every other use of force situation.
 
Only if you assume that there is no other possible way of enforcing an arrest warrant, aside from executing the suspect. Which is false.
the perp fought off the cops who were trying to execute the warrant without executing him
unfortunately, the perp's decisions caused that shooting to result
the perp is responsible for his own death
 
Use reasonable force to apprehend the subject based on the level of resistance they are presenting.

Like every other use of force situation.
seems that was exactly what they were doing
until the perp decided he would try to bolt by refusing to comply with the police instructions
he brought this ultimate result upon himself
 
seems that was exactly what they were doing
until the perp decided he would try to bolt by refusing to comply with the police instructions
he brought this ultimate result upon himself
Reasonable force is required at all levels of resistance, not just when the subject is compliant.
 
the perp fought off the cops who were trying to execute the warrant without executing him
unfortunately, the perp's decisions caused that shooting to result
the perp is responsible for his own death
The perp "fought off" the cops solely due to their own incompetence, and then was shot, due to again, such an extreme amount of police incompetence that it amounts to criminal negligence.
 
Reasonable force is required at all levels of resistance, not just when the subject is compliant.
which is where we come to the point of expecting the police to wave goodbye to him
when he refuses to be compliant
don't shoot the perp who refuses to obey police commands, just wave goodbye to him and hope he will be apprehended by some other cops
wonder why there is so much non-compliance going on before all the shootings
 
The perp "fought off" the cops solely due to their own incompetence, and then was shot, due to again, such an extreme amount of police incompetence that it amounts to criminal negligence.
you want us to believe that the cops incompetence is what made the perp non-compliant
get off of your unicorn and join the rest of us on this planet
 
Oh boy...

All these "he was accused of a crime in the past" people. All these "he shoulda obeyed" people.





Fess up. You and the rest of them just don't care. The sum total of your posts say it. This tends to happen to poor black people. Poverty tends to correlate with crime, so you'll generally have some accusation made against him in the past to point to. Between that and "he should have obeyed", it's obvious that there is no actual analysis going on behind your keyboards.

It happens to poor black people. You are not a poor black person. Therefore, you do not care. That's all.

🤷

It's disgusting. It's selfish. It's a tribal instinct humanity needs to jettison.
 
you want us to believe that the cops incompetence is what made the perp non-compliant
get off of your unicorn and join the rest of us on this planet
I think that's exactly what made him non compliant actually. Their inability to get the cuffs on gave him the chance he needed to escape. If they hadn't given him that opportunity, he wouldn't have gotten away, he'd still be alive, and she wouldn't be charged with manslaughter.
 
I think that's exactly what made him non compliant actually. Their inability to get the cuffs on gave him the chance he needed to escape. If they hadn't given him that opportunity, he wouldn't have gotten away, he'd still be alive, and she wouldn't be charged with manslaughter.
thanks for the admission that you believe it was the cops' fault that the perp was non-compliant
 
which is where we come to the point of expecting the police to wave goodbye to him
when he refuses to be compliant
don't shoot the perp who refuses to obey police commands, just wave goodbye to him and hope he will be apprehended by some other cops
wonder why there is so much non-compliance going on before all the shootings
Once again, waving goodbye and engaging in a use of deadly force are not the only options available. This is why the police have other force options on their tool belts.
 
I think that's exactly what made him non compliant actually. Their inability to get the cuffs on gave him the chance he needed to escape. If they hadn't given him that opportunity, he wouldn't have gotten away, he'd still be alive, and she wouldn't be charged with manslaughter.
Yeah, this is a bad take. They didn't give him an opportunity. He took a chance and was able to get free. The ability to successfully resist arrest at the beginning of an encounter doesn't make cops culpable for injury later on just because the subject was able to initially get away.
 
A citizen is entitled to due process, regardless of whatever stupid actions they may take. Disobeying a police officer does not entitle them to shoot him dead.

Which is not what happend here intentionally, glad you can see that...
 
Oh boy...

All these "he was accused of a crime in the past" people. All these "he shoulda obeyed" people.





Fess up. You and the rest of them just don't care. The sum total of your posts say it. This tends to happen to poor black people. Poverty tends to correlate with crime, so you'll generally have some accusation made against him in the past to point to. Between that and "he should have obeyed", it's obvious that there is no actual analysis going on behind your keyboards.

It happens to poor black people. You are not a poor black person. Therefore, you do not care. That's all.

🤷

It's disgusting. It's selfish. It's a tribal instinct humanity needs to jettison.
the lack of analysis is your own
poverty is a bitch
and it is disproportionally a black, brown, and red thing
but those cops were not dealing with poverty
they were dealing with a non-compliant perp wanted on a court issued arrest warrant
they were doing their jobs in trying to arrest him
taking him off the streets because a court - of which you are an officer - decreed that outcome be made by arresting the perp
had the perp obeyed the lawful commands of the police, the perp would be alive today and this thread would not exist
he was not killed because he was poor
he was not killed because he was black
he was killed because he refused to obey the just commands of authority figures and fought the court-directed arrest efforts
 
Once again, waving goodbye and engaging in a use of deadly force are not the only options available. This is why the police have other force options on their tool belts.
yep, and a veteran cop intended to take one of those alternatives
now she lost her job and faces trial for manslaughter
this should be a life lesson for anyone who is interested in becoming a law enforcement officer
make an honest mistake and it can cause you your future
 
Oh boy...

All these "he was accused of a crime in the past" people. All these "he shoulda obeyed" people.





Fess up. You and the rest of them just don't care. The sum total of your posts say it. This tends to happen to poor black people. Poverty tends to correlate with crime, so you'll generally have some accusation made against him in the past to point to. Between that and "he should have obeyed", it's obvious that there is no actual analysis going on behind your keyboards.

It happens to poor black people. You are not a poor black person. Therefore, you do not care. That's all.

🤷

It's disgusting. It's selfish. It's a tribal instinct humanity needs to jettison.

Sorry.....maybe I am missing something, but this doesn't seem very hard to analyze.

#1. Wright ****ed up by resisting and trying to avoid, there's simply NO excuse for that behavior. He ended up paying the price, unfortunately, the ultimate price.
#2. Potter ****ed up by pulling the wrong weapon, again, no excuse for that, there maybe explanations, but no excuse, it shouldn't have happened, she will pay the price for that...
#3. The only ones saying this is a racial crime, have agendas on both sides.

What I am missing?
 
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