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Obama Says Ratifying START Treaty With Russia Is Top Priority for U.S.

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Obama Says Ratifying START Treaty With Russia Is Top Priority for U.S. - FoxNews.com


Really? This is his 'top priority'? I thought it was the economy? No wait, it ws jobs... No, it was immigration. Wait, it was...........

Just how many 'top priorities' can one President actually have?

this many...

Promise many, deliver few.
 

If a nuclear war starts, for no particular reason, everything else Obama promised will disappear in a mushroom cloud, so making it top priority is essential, not politics.

ricksfolly
 
ricksfolly said:
If a nuclear war starts, for no particular reason, everything else Obama promised will disappear in a mushroom cloud, so making it top priority is essential, not politics.

ricksfolly
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If a nuclear war starts and this treaty has been put into effect, it will have elminated our advantage and also precluded our ability to develop a defense system against it, so we'd be worse off. Actually knowing what's in the treaty would have helped you here.

But no, Obama is for it, so of course, you just assume it's cool.

(Besides . . . "if a nuclear war starts." :roll: Yeah. That in danger of happening any time soon? 'Coz people need jobs NOW.)
 
ricksfolly said:
If a nuclear war starts, for no particular reason, everything else Obama promised will disappear in a mushroom cloud, so making it top priority is essential, not politics.

ricksfolly
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If a water balloon fight starts, for no particular reason, everything else Obama promised will disappear in a big wet puddle, so making it top priority is essential, not politics.

My statement is just as likely as yours.
 
Russia and America aren't going to attack each other. The new START Treaty will not be ratified in the lame duck session. Obama hasn't been willing to pay the enormous price that will be required to get conservative votes on ratification. So no treaty.
 

There is no defense. There is no advantage. Anyone who tells you otherwise is ****ing insane. 1500 warheads per side is enough to destroy the planet.

You can't defend against ICBMs. They're too fast, and there's too many of them. Our missile defense systems have utterly abysmal success rates, even when totally rigging the test. (single target, pre-determined path) ICBMs re-enter the atmosphere at around 9000 miles per hour. The warheads split into multiple reentry vehicles along with chaff decoys. When we started our missile defense programs, the Soviet counter was sheer numbers. "We'll make your defenses statistically irrelevant."

There was no advantage in the first place to be eliminated. We never had one. Nuclear war with Russia is the end of the world, whether we do it with 1500 warheads or 3000. It doesn't matter. There's no reasonable defense, multiple nukes targeting a city each with dozens of decoys simply wont be stopped. Anyone who tells you that this somehow weakens America is just flat-out wrong.

edit: and don't get me started on the "policy" parts of the treaty. That's all completely meaningless.
edit2: and Fox News straight up lied to you about that part too.
edit3: and why do people translate "a top priority" into "I'm going to drop everything, including the economy, until this is done!" Government can do more than one thing at a time.
 
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I think he has enough GOP support on this one to get it done. Even though, the GOP top priority, (which is NOT the economy or jobs,) is getting Obama out of office, I'm thinking due to the importance of the issue, enough of them will have the nutsacks to get their no-workin' thumbs out of their asses and not play politics as usual on this one.

Maybe not.
 
in just over 40 days income taxes on the average earner go up by something on the order of 3 or 4 thousand dollars per year

in times like these

the us and former ussr have absolutely no animus these days to destroy each other

over what, georgia?

get real

obama's in a fairy tale

his duck is all lame, and kyl killed this one, he's gop WHIP

Kyl: Don't consider START treaty in lame-duck session - CNN

keep up

read more, talk less

what's going on here is obama, after his "rodney dangerfield moment" at the g20 when the international economic community "rejected his economic views on the world stage," is off tomorrow for bankrupt portugal to ask our nato partners for more help in afghanistan which every one of us (except obama and, apparently, hillary rodham clinton) can see far enough ahead to ascertain he aint gonna get squat except a little more of the dangerfield treatment

NationalJournal.com - America?s Rodney Dangerfield Moment - Friday, November 12, 2010

Obama's economic view is rejected on world stage - San Jose Mercury News

well, he's gonna be seeing medvedev in lisbon, i presume, and boneheaded obama would like to offer at least some little bonus

alas, no
 
This is the kinda of **** that presidents do. I think Obama would do the country a huge favor, by making this his only priority and stop trying to turn the country into a dictatorship.

I have to admit that I'm behind him on this one--as long as he doesn't puss out and give the whole show away--afterall, he still thinks that the United States is the root of all that's wrong in the world.
 

Even when you agree with him, you just have to take as much a shot at him as possible. That should make you think.
 
Deuce said:
Even when you agree with him, you just have to take as much a shot at him as possible. That should make you think.
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Agreeing just isn't enough; is it? Now, that should make you think.

Had he not announced to the world that the United States is the root of all evil, I wouldn't have reason to doubt his motives. It's called, "credibility".

Comments like your's make me think of all the times that Libbos swore, up-n-down, about how it's our patriotic duty to question our elected leaders. Funny how ya'll aren't saying that much, anymore.
 
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He said we're the root of all evil?

Link to the quote?
 
Deuce said:
He said we're the root of all evil?

Link to the quote?
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Did I quote him as saying those exact words?

I have a better idea; you produce the link where Obama went abroad and actually bragged on the United States. Good luck with that.
 
apdst said:
Did I quote him as saying those exact words?

I have a better idea; you produce the link where Obama went abroad and actually bragged on the United States. Good luck with that.
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OOh. So he didn't "announce" that we're the root of all evil. You just made that up.
 
Deuce said:
OOh. So he didn't "announce" that we're the root of all evil. You just made that up.
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I never said he did any such thing. I was offering my own interpretation of his past comments.

Care to show us the quotes I asked for; where he praises America's greatness? Prolly not, huh???
 
ricksfolly said:
If a nuclear war starts, for no particular reason, everything else Obama promised will disappear in a mushroom cloud, so making it top priority is essential, not politics.

ricksfolly
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Unfortunately leftwingers only know politics.

Bush is the only person offering a shovel-ready job.
 
IMO, the treaty should be ratified. It does not inhibit the United States' ability to continue to ballistic missile defense research nor does it inhibit modernization of the nation's nuclear arsenal. Although it somewhat lowers Russia's and the United States' nuclear arsenals, it does not do so to the extent that their deterrent value is compromised.
 
apdst said:
I never said he did any such thing. I was offering my own interpretation of his past comments.

Care to show us the quotes I asked for; where he praises America's greatness? Prolly not, huh???
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Yes, you were offering an outrageously partisan interpretation of his past comments. Actually, scratch that, an entirely irrelevant outrageously partisan interpretation of his past comments.

You said you're "behind him on this one" and then turn around and say he has no credibility. I don't see how that works out, because the treaty has been pretty well hammered out and now it's up to congress. Shouldn't you worry about what congress is going to do with this?

Or, I guess, you could talk about other random things. As long as it bashes Obama.
 

So, then what's the point?
 
Heavy Duty said:
Dont forget transparency
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I would say that most Conservatives the Obama Administration has been transparent. We see right through the lies and directly into his Socialist/Marxist agenda.

The only ones for whom it has been opaque are the Liberals but then they can't help it they have been blinded by Obama's ability to read off a teleprompter to the point where the truth now eludes them like a will-of-the-wisp.

I believe Obama is to inexperienced and naive to be negotiating anything past the price of a Taco from a street vendor in Tijuana.

He's the great appeaser no negotiator. Now if we need to apologize for something send in the clown he can bow and scrape better than anyone in history but I don't trust him with my security for a second.
 
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meh if he does get this done it would be the only thing I would agree with him on so far.
 
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