Obama Says Ratifying START Treaty With Russia Is Top Priority for U.S.

[Albert Di Salvo]

IMO, the treaty should be ratified. It does not inhibit the United States' ability to continue to ballistic missile defense research nor does it inhibit modernization of the nation's nuclear arsenal. Although it somewhat lowers Russia's and the United States' nuclear arsenals, it does not do so to the extent that their deterrent value is compromised.

Doesn't the Preamble of the the New START Treaty state Russia's intention to withdraw from the Treaty if American missile defense imposes unacceptable limitations on Russia's strategic weapons? I think so. This introduces ambiguity that Russia will use as leverage in the future. This article says it better than I can:

New START

 

[Resist the gov.]

Then tell your Republican Seantors (if you have those) to pass it.

Ya well some Rep. are already against this.

 

[donsutherland1]

Doesn't the Preamble of the the New START Treaty state Russia's intention to withdraw from the Treaty if American missile defense imposes unacceptable limitations on Russia's strategic weapons? I think so.

Under the spirit of the treaty, the strategic nuclear military relationship between the two parties is expected to be stable. Research into missile defense is ok. Deployment to the extent that the strategic balance is altered is not. Neither side would accept an arrangement under which the other would gain cover to make a strategic breakthrough that would largely neutralize the other's strategic capability. Both sides wanted to set the nuclear balance at a lower level.

 

[ptif219]

Obama has a hard time getting 60 votes in the senate how is he going to get 67? It takes 67 to ratify a treaty

 

[MKULTRABOY]

Just so you guys know. If ONE side has complete missile defense (which is unfeasable to science fiction proportions) then essentially it would have the tactical ability to complete a nuclear strike unpunished. In other words. If one side tilts the balance too much, such as say, the US. Then the other side, Russia would merely re-align and place efforts into strategically balancing. Do we need Russia re-structuring into a more militarist economy? Methinks not. If we could completely dominate the planet from a nuclear means... that's just going to incite people to plant a bomb under washington DC. It'd give us an actual reason to worry about nuclear terror.

 

[Councilman]

Ask Reagan. It was his idea first. :shrug:

Fewer nukes is cheaper to maintain I suppose.

President Reagan was equipped and prepared to negotiate from a position of strength and the Soviets new he meant what he said and was willing to back it it up.

Obama spends too much time looking at peoples shoes to be taken seriously. He has shown the world he's a weak kneed, limp wrist, namby pamby, marshmallow milk toast.

Very cool slippers your Majesty.

 

[MKULTRABOY]

Was in a culture of bowing and met the emperor and bowed too low. Forgivable gaff.

President Reagan was equipped and prepared to negotiate from a position of strength and the Soviets new he meant what he said and was willing to back it it up.

Doing the exact same thing as Obama is doing. Are you saying he's going to back out on the start treaty he's promoting. Do try to make sense.

 

[Councilman]

Gosh I found a sensible Senator from Arizona we don't hear from enough.


No Chance for a New START | FrontPage Magazine

Senator Jon Kyl (R-AZ) said in a statement that “given the combination of other work Congress must do and the complex and unresolved issues related to START and modernization,” it would be impossible to consider the treaty at this time.

Kyl is absolutely correct. While the treaty is backed by our entire military establishment , and is, on its surface, generally favorable to our national security interests, there are several unanswered questions relating to verification, missile defense, and modernization that all senators should want to weigh in the balance before casting a final vote on the treaty.

 

[Deuce]

President Reagan was equipped and prepared to negotiate from a position of strength and the Soviets new he meant what he said and was willing to back it it up.

Obama spends too much time looking at peoples shoes to be taken seriously. He has shown the world he's a weak kneed, limp wrist, namby pamby, marshmallow milk toast.

Very cool slippers your Majesty.

So you're mad that instead of
"Reduce our nuke load by 30% or we'll kill you."

We got
"Reduce our nukeload by 30% because it's the right thing to do for both of us."

That just infuriates you?

 

[Councilman]

Was in a culture of bowing and met the emperor and bowed too low. Forgivable gaff.

Doing the exact same thing as Obama is doing. Are you saying he's going to back out on the start treaty he's promoting. Do try to make sense.

It is not my fault when anyone fails to understand what the words mean when in is made clear that Obama is weak, and not smart enough to be negotiating anything. Let alone something that involves our safety since he tried to negotiate economics last week and was shot down at every turn and humiliated on the world stage and his Socialist agenda was soundly rejected, even by Socialist Europe.

Obama bowed to Hu of China when he should as our representative be bowing to no man save a VERY SLIGHT one to the one or two world leaders. His bows amount to groveling. Then when your a low life that might be fitting.

Anyone who compares Obama with President Reagan in any way is really only trying to insult President Reagan's memory.

 

[Albert Di Salvo]

...Obama bowed to Hu of China....

Obama bowed to Hu. Inferiors kowtow to superiors. That's the way it works in the Celestial Kingdom. Obama is just lucky he wasn't required to touch the floor with his forehead. Oh how the mighty have fallen.

 

[Whovian]

Doing the exact same thing as Obama is doing. Are you saying he's going to back out on the start treaty he's promoting. Do try to make sense.

What? Obama waffle or chage his mind? UNPRECEDENTED! :ninja:

 

[ptif219]

I still want someone to explain how Obama will get 67 votes in the senate to ratify the treaty.

 

[Deuce]

I still want someone to explain how Obama will get 67 votes in the senate to ratify the treaty.

No, I'm pretty sure the GOP is blindly partisan enough that they'll put politics above all else. Lord Reagan reduced our arsenal because he's powerful. A brilliant leader. Obama doing the same? He's weak! Can't trust him! Party of No, unite!

 

[The Giant Noodle]

What? Obama waffle or chage his mind? UNPRECEDENTED! :ninja:

Seriously man... why do post so many negative things generated by Spin Doctors? If YOU are a conservative please just post more of what and WHY Independants should swing to YOUR side. Childish bashing and bitching about next to nothing is NOT a way to impress ANY voter. Its just foolish.

 

[ptif219]

No, I'm pretty sure the GOP is blindly partisan enough that they'll put politics above all else. Lord Reagan reduced our arsenal because he's powerful. A brilliant leader. Obama doing the same? He's weak! Can't trust him! Part of No, unite!

Obama plays politics not what benefits this country. What policy has Obama put in place to verify the results? The partisan for the last 2 years has been Obama. All that has mattered is what Obama wants no one else matters. The voters seen this and the election is the result of Obama and his arrogant selfishness and failed leadership

 

[Deuce]

Obama plays politics not what benefits this country. What policy has Obama put in place to verify the results? The partisan for the last 2 years has been Obama. All that has mattered is what Obama wants no one else matters. The voters seen this and the election is the result of Obama and his arrogant selfishness and failed leadership

So you think we shouldn't reduce our stockpile?

 

[Albert Di Salvo]

I still want someone to explain how Obama will get 67 votes in the senate to ratify the treaty.

Obama desperately wants a victory of any kind. He can have his treaty, but the price for passage of the treaty will be so high that his victory will be Pyrrhic. That's the way life works.

When anyone wants something really badly, and the other side knows it, the price will be based on that person's desperation. It is what it is.

 

[ptif219]

So you think we shouldn't reduce our stockpile?

Not without guarantees from other countries to reduce theirs. The word of Russia is not credible we must verify their actions